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User talk:A Clippy

2026-03-26T08:31:00Z

A Clippy: /* Notice */ Reply

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-- [[User:New user message|New user message]] ([[User talk:New user message|talk]]) 09:05, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

==Notice==
Hello there! I have marked many of your recent articles as irreverent due to there being no mention of any consumer rights incidents (read our inclusion guidelines [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Inclusion guidelines|here]]). If this is not the case, please add incidents to these articles alongside applicable sources. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2026 (UTC)

:I'm quite certain that there is a wealth of information regarding the airsoft industry and its relationship to the concept of the right to repair, but I'm not sure where to find information on why certain brands are no longer sold internationally. If I had to guess the reason, it is likely because IP rights restrict the trade dress of certain guns—that is, actual firearms companies objected to toys representing the silhouette of their firearms but that is speculation. [[User:A Clippy|A Clippy]] ([[User talk:A Clippy|talk]]) 08:31, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Lenovo

2026-03-10T17:06:03Z

A Clippy: /* Controversies */

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[[wikipedia:Lenovo|'''Lenovo''']] is a Chinese PC manufacturer founded originally as a state-founded branch of a research institute called Legend in 1984.<ref>[https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9310.2004.00349.x "Sequential learning in a Chinese spin-off: the case of Lenovo Group Limited"] - onlinelibrary.wiley.com - accessed 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20250211183926/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1467-9310.2004.00349.x Archived])</ref> In 2005, they officially rebranded as Lenovo and bought the IBM computer division alongside the [[Thinkpad]] brand.<ref>[https://www.strategy-business.com/article/00274 "Lenovo Goes Global"] - strategy-business.com - accessed 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20260114210920/https://www.strategy-business.com/article/00274 Archived])</ref> Today, Lenovo has more than 77,000 employees and holds about a quarter of the Worldwide PC Shipments market.<ref>[https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/about/ "About Lenovo"] - lenovo.com - accessed 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20260128055706/https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/about/ Archived])</ref><ref>[https://doc.irasia.com/listco/hk/lenovo/annual/2024/esr.pdf "2023/24 Environmental, Social and Governance Report"] - doc.irasia.com - accessed 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20250708185917/https://doc.irasia.com/listco/hk/lenovo/annual/2024/esr.pdf Archived])</ref><ref>[https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/01-10-2024-gartner-says-worldwide-pc-shipments-increased-zero-point-three-percent-in-fourth-quarter-of-2023-but-declined-fourteen-point-eight-percent-for-the-year "Gartner Says Worldwide PC Shipments Increased 0.3% in Fourth Quarter of 2023 but Declined 14.8% for the Year"] - gartner.com - 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20260203103413/https://www.gartner.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/01-10-2024-gartner-says-worldwide-pc-shipments-increased-zero-point-three-percent-in-fourth-quarter-of-2023-but-declined-fourteen-point-eight-percent-for-the-year Archived])</ref>

In 2014, the company bought [[Motorola]] Mobility from Google for around US$2.91 billion.<ref>[https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-completes-full-acquisition-motorola-mobility-from-google/ "Lenovo Completes Acquisition of Motorola Mobility from Google"] - news.lenovo.com - accessed 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20260124102948/https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/lenovo-completes-full-acquisition-motorola-mobility-from-google/ Archived])</ref>
==Controversies==
===Hardware Lockout for Changes===
Lenovo has, on various occasions and for various models, locked the hardware through BIOS in order to prevent unauthorized parts from being used. This can prevent a user from changing to a better wireless card, or using an aftermaket battery or even a battery for a different model of Lenovo computer. Hacks are available to workaround this limitation on certain models, such as the T430, but Lenovo has never offered an OEM method of removing this lock.

=== '''AB 1043: Age verification signals''' '''- California Bill''' ===
Assembly Bill 1043, known as the '''Digital Age Assurance Act''', was supported by several technology companies, including '''Lenovo, Inc.''', which formally expressed support for the legislation on '''September 10, 2025'''. The bill establishes a framework requiring operating system providers and app stores to implement an '''age-verification signal''' during device or account setup.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2025-10-13 |title=AB 1043: Age verification signals: software applications and online services |url=https://calmatters.digitaldemocracy.org/bills/ca_202520260ab1043 |access-date=2026-03-10 |website=almatters.digitaldemocracy.org}}</ref>

===Suppliers accused of child labor===
In 2020, The Intercept made headlines showing how Chinese manufactures like Lenovo have suppliers accused of forced child labor in Uyghur regions of China.<ref>[https://theintercept.com/2020/08/21/school-laptops-lenovo-chromebooks-china-uyghur/ "Kids may be using laptops made with forced labor this fall"] - theintercept.com - accessed 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20251205195726/https://theintercept.com/2020/08/21/school-laptops-lenovo-chromebooks-china-uyghur/ Archived])</ref> The company later said it was ending relationships with these suppliers.<ref>[https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/ap-exclusive-us-faces-back-to-school-laptop-shortage/2020/08/22/13281908-e4eb-11ea-82d8-5e55d47e90ca_story.html "U.S. faces back-to-school laptop shortage"] - washingtonpost.com - accessed 2025-02-01 ([http://web.archive.org/web/20230831111126/https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/ap-exclusive-us-faces-back-to-school-laptop-shortage/2020/08/22/13281908-e4eb-11ea-82d8-5e55d47e90ca_story.html Archived])</ref>
===Disabling third-party batteries===
A common issue where third party batteries were working perfectly fine but without being allowlisted they are just got suddenly disabled, and as a result do not charge or function. There is no error messages and the only way to know is to install Vantage software to see non-genuine battery warning. This is critical as perfectly working hardware that is slightly outdated by a couple of years is basically turned into e-waste because of this, and original parts are getting harder to come by with every passing day.
===X1 Carbon series problems===
The '''X1 Carbon series''' of laptops exhibits hardware durability issues and will fail to '''POST''' (Power-On Self-Test) if their '''WWAN Broadband card''' is replaced with one that is not included in Lenovo's vendor whitelist.
{{Main|Lenovo X1 Carbon}}
===Wording in their FAQs; "Is it safe to buy a used laptop or computer?"===
Originally from this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahw1cppZi-g|Lenovo Lenovo wants you to stop buying used PCs because they may have viruses on them]

Archived FAQ:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230325030633/https://www.lenovo.com/ph/en/faqs/laptop-faqs/used-laptops/

A few snippets:

Is it safe to buy a used laptop or computer?

In a word, no. Though many people have found inexpensive used computers that work just fine, the world of used laptops and computers can be a difficult one to navigate. People just looking for a good deal can often be swindled out of their money.

The computer could be slow, infected with a virus, or have damaged hardware and you might not realize this until it's too late. Buying a used laptop or computer is a gamble when it comes to computer safety.

Buying a used laptop doesn't only cause headaches. It might not even end up being financially feasible. The maintenance and repair costs that may be incurred due to viruses, malware, [[spyware]] and hardware malfunctions can add up quickly. Also, because used laptops have a shorter lifespan, you may have to pay to replace the laptop sooner.

Lenovo then responded to the video with:<blockquote>"Thank you for calling this out, Louis! Your feedback is greatly appreciated, and we hear you. The FAQ page in question has since been taken down and will be reviewed to ensure it correctly reflects Lenovo's views on refurbished products. We know that smarter, more sustainable technology solutions are as big of a priority for our customers as they are for us, and we want to be clear that we encourage buyers to explore refurbished options from authorized resellers. For this reason, many Lenovo computers are designed to be easily serviceable and repairable, and Lenovo has set goals to improve the serviceability and repairability of our PCs even more. We hope that you continue to be part of the Lenovo community."</blockquote>

===Broken Trackpoint===
Many thinkpads were shipped with a buggy trackpoint driver, where the trackpoint would stop working and the only fix was restarting the system. This bug affected a wide range of products, but Lenovo ignored the issue for years and refused to help customers. In 2021 a user created [https://web.archive.org/web/20250804180148/https://broken-trackpoint.com/ broken-trackpoint.com] which offered a windows tool that was able to effectively fix this problem. Lenovo sent their lawyers and forced it to be taken down.[https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T-series-Laptops/Trackpoint-randomly-stops-working/m-p/5062438?page=52#6280307]
===ThinkPad Thunderbolt firmware fiasco===
Certain Lenovo ThinkPad models released between 2017 and 2019 experienced a flaw in the Thunderbolt firmware<ref>{{Cite web |date=2019-09-08 |title=Critical Intel Thunderbolt Software and Firmware Updates - ThinkPad |url=https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht508988-critical-intel-thunderbolt-software-and-firmware-updates-thinkpad |url-status=live |access-date=2025-08-31 |website=Lenovo Support |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251128112929/https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht508988-critical-intel-thunderbolt-software-and-firmware-updates-thinkpad |archive-date=28 Nov 2025}}</ref>. Over time, this firmware version can cause irreversible damage to the SPI-ROM<ref>{{Cite web |last=Herzig |first=Benjamin |date=2020-01-25 |title=Lenovo statement: Thunderbolt firmware responsible for ThinkPad USB C failures |url=https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-statement-Thunderbolt-firmware-responsible-for-ThinkPad-USB-C-failures.451307.0.html |url-status=live |access-date=2025-08-31 |website=Notebookcheck |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250918034238/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-statement-Thunderbolt-firmware-responsible-for-ThinkPad-USB-C-failures.451307.0.html |archive-date=18 Sep 2025}}</ref> of the Thunderbolt controller, leading to the failure of Thunderbolt functionality and, in some cases, USB-C features.

List of the affected devices can be found [https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht508988-critical-intel-thunderbolt-software-and-firmware-updates-thinkpad here]
===Black underfill around BGA components===
Lenovo uses a strong black underfill material, often referred to as "glue"<ref>{{Cite web |date=2019-03-29 |title=Remove Lenovo black Glue under the chipset? |url=https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-laptops-tablets-and-mobile-devices/68715-remove-lenovo-black-glue-under-the-chipset |url-status=live |access-date=2025-08-31 |website=Badcaps}}</ref> around the corners of some BGA (ball grid array) components. The underfill adds strength and helps protect the chips from physical stress<ref>{{Cite web |title=Underfills |url=https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/ch/en/products/encapsulants/underfills.html |url-status=live |access-date=2025-08-31 |website=Henkel |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250803185652/https://www.henkel-adhesives.com/ch/en/products/encapsulants/underfills.html |archive-date=3 Aug 2025}}</ref>.

Users have noted, however, that the material is very difficult to remove. In some cases, attempts to take out these components can result in the pads being ripped from the board, making repairs more challenging.<ref>{{Cite web |date=2023-11-16 |title=how to remove black glue in edges of chips in Lenovo laptops? |url=https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-laptops-tablets-and-mobile-devices/110425-how-to-remove-black-glue-in-edges-of-chips-in-lenovo-laptops |url-status=live |access-date=2025-08-31 |website=Badcaps |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250326202959/https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-laptops-tablets-and-mobile-devices/110425-how-to-remove-black-glue-in-edges-of-chips-in-lenovo-laptops |archive-date=26 Mar 2025}}</ref>
[[File:Lenovo underfill.jpg|none|thumb|354x354px|Example of the black underfill being used on a Lenovo ThinkPad laptop]]
==References==
<references />
[[Category:Lenovo]]

Talk:Electronic Arts

2026-03-08T07:05:09Z

A Clippy: /* Help me understand this, C&C open source under Github */ new section

== Help me understand this, C&C open source under Github ==

If all of the C&C games are on steam and the EA app, why is this true?

"meaning once users cannot purchase any Command & Conquer game, this source code repository is effectively useless."

Are we pushing EA to release their IP on GOG?

because they know,

reference :https://www.reddit.com/r/commandandconquer/comments/1icqudy/go_and_vote_gog_has_shortlisted_cc_the_ultimate/

"Absolutely—GO AND VOTE!

C&C: The Ultimate Collection is such an important title to many of us at GOG. We know just how awesome you all are and what can be achieved with the power of the gaming community :) You rock! Thanks for sharing our Dreamlist!" [[User:A Clippy|A Clippy]] ([[User talk:A Clippy|talk]]) 07:05, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Bugs

2026-03-08T06:23:12Z

A Clippy: /* Edit title names */ Reply

[[Category:CRW]]
<div style="margin: {{#ifeq:{{{navbox|<noinclude>yes</noinclude>}}}|yes|2px}} 0 0.5em; padding: 0.5em; {{{style|border: 1px solid #A0A5AD;}}} {{{backgroundstyle|background-color: var(--background-color-progressive-subtle, #eaf3ff); color: inherit;}}}">
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When reporting a bug, please include as much detail as possible to help developers reproduce and fix the issue.
'''Please do not report security issues here'''. Email them to '''security@fulu.org''' instead.

*'''Check for duplicates:''' look through existing reports before posting to avoid repeats.
*'''System details:''' include your operating system, browser, and platform (e.g. Windows, macOS, Linux, x86, ARM, Chrome, Edge, Safari, Firefox).
*'''Inputs and outputs:''' describe what you did, what you expected to happen, and what actually happened.
*'''Reproduction steps:''' provide clear, step-by-step instructions so developers can replicate the bug.
*For general discussions or suggestions not related to bugs, please use the [[Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderators' noticeboard|Moderators' noticeboard]] instead.

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*You will receive a response from [[User:JakeL]], who is contracted to provide professional support for this wiki in a production environment.
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{{Archives}} 

==Wiki search engine indexing==

There are a couple of posts asking about search engine indexing of this wiki: [[Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderators' noticeboard#Should CRW be indexed by search engines?]] and [[Talk:Main Page#Suggestion: Implementing a /robots.txt page]]. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 02:20, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

:We are currently looking into this and I will update the thread as and when we have a solution or any further news. [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 00:38, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

==How do you edit beginning of an article with StubNotice?==

I was trying to edit the beginning of the article on [[Medical ventilator]] (to add a see also link to the medical equipment article).

The article has a StubNotice template at the beginning (on the same line as the beginning of the first paragraph).

When I try to save changes after making ANY change to the text on the same line as the stub notice template, it will not save (it gives me a message telling me about the procedure for requesting stubnotice removal). I am not trying to move or remove the stub notice, I didn't touch that. Even if all I try to do is put a newline or space after the template, or change words on the first line, it won't let me. This happens whether I use the visual editor or the source editor. I am using firefox running on linux.

I can save changes later on in that article, and I have edited other articles marked as stubs without issue.

The stubnotice documentation and talk page do not seem to document this behaviour, or tell me what to do. If this is desired behaviour, then the template should explain how to handle it.

Thank you. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 21:31, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

:Not a mod, but I think I can respond to this. You can’t and this is pretty much desired behaviour. The [[Special:AbuseFilter|Abuse filter]] is the reason for it. It does attack more than just that area too as it thinks you’re changing the notice. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 07:40, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
::I don't understand why this behavior would be desired. To me it seems like a bug, where the abuse filter is protecting more than it should.
::Regardless, how can we improve the lead paragraph when we can not change it?
::*Are we supposed to duplicate the immutable first paragraph, putting any revisions/improvements in a secondary copy of the first paragraph? Is there a standard template or way to document what is going on so it doesn't confuse readers when they see two first paragraphs?
::*Do we need to propose edits to the first paragraph in some form on the talk page, then request an administrator to come and actually make the change? (If so, how/where do we make the request?)
::*Are we expected to just ignore problems in the first paragraph, and revise the rest of it until the stub can be removed?
::Thanks. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 01:37, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::I wonder if this edit, where an administrator used the visual editor to delete a deletion tag after the stubnotice might be part of the problem. Prior to that edit, the stubnotice was on its own line. After that edit, the stubnotice is on the same line as the first paragraph.
::https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Shortage_of_medical_ventilators_during_the_COVID_pandemic&diff=prev&oldid=25186
::If the abuse filter intentionally protects everything on the stubnotice line, then the problem may be in the visual editor, which should ensure that it preserves the newline at the end of a protected line. (At the very least, it should warn an administrator when they are suddenly protecting a bunch of text that wasn't protected before.) [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 02:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
:::I personally don’t like the current ‘stub notice can only be removed by mods’ anyway, and there are loads of article maintenance templates which '''don’t have this for some reason'''. Proposing edits in talk page is actually done on Wikipedia in the form of edit requests, where a mod will look at it there, but the thing is it won’t alert mods here to the request by just posting about it. The point about it protects the entire line seems valid to me and makes complete sense from my own experience, so I do think that is the most likely scenario. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 15:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::::This is by design so that editors do not remove the notice until its been removed by staff for completeness. Once work on an article is completed you can post an appeal in the noticeboard or discord #appeals staff do actively check these so that peer edits can be approved and notices removed. This is both by policy and system design; it is not a bug. If you have thoughts on how we can improve this process feel free to bring it up in the dashboard - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 15:46, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::If this is desired behavior -- why? What purpose does it serve making it so the ''entire first paragraph'' of an article is ''immutable''?
:::::Note that the issue is the protection of the rest of the line, not the protection of the notice itself.
:::::@[[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] Sorry, I don't know where/what the dashboard is, please give me a link. In the meantime, I will post suggestions for improvement here. Thank you.
:::::How to improve it:
:::::*Fix the code, so that only the stubnotice template is protected, not the rest of the line.
:::::*Fix the code when submitting a change so that it ''always'' adds a newline immediately after a stubnotice (or other protected template) if there isn't one there.
:::::*When a moderator submits a change with anything on the same line as a protected template, (either by adding to it, or by deleting the newline at the end of the line) the software should issue a warning, telling them what this will do to everybody else and asking them to confirm that they really want to do that. (Make the warning simple, clear, blatant, something you have to type a response to so people will read it and not autoclick.)
:::::Temporary workarounds:
:::::Add cautionary notices to the stubnotice template and its documentation.
:::::*The documentation should explain this behavior, tell moderators what the intended use of protecting the rest of the line is, and warn moderators about the problems it can cause.
:::::*If the visual editor is part of the problem (as I suspect it may be, given the edit which caused the problem in this article), then the documentation should warn moderators to be especially careful when using it around stubnotices.
:::::*The template text should explain what is going on, so an editor encountering the problem for the first time knows what is happening, and what to do about it. (How to get help to fix this case.) [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 19:46, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::Just found that the template:incomplete has same problem. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 05:17, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::That part about the first paragraph being un-editable is not intended but the fact that users cannot edit the stub notice (or other notices) is created so someone cant just arbitrariliy edit their post removing the notices without staff review and formal appeal of the action by the user. As for where the dashboard is [[Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderators' noticeboard]] here is a link to it. As for the rest of your concerns I will flag down one of the tech folks or Keith for you to provide a more detailed explaination or look into exactly why everything in a first paragraph is being locked down as if someone adds a stub notices it should be at the top and above all text so there should be a seperation between the article text and the stub notice. This might also just be a policy thing we need to discuss as the stub notice is working as intended but the text after it being locked is not. - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 08:24, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

==Numeric usernames in cites produce warnings==
Usernames allow a wide range of characters. When <code>|author=</code> is used, the warning should not exist. The numberic warning should still exist on <code>|last=</code> and <code>|first=</code>. Many pages in [[:Category:CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list]] are false positives. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C8:2384:101:B34:3E7B:6AF4:18CF|2A00:23C8:2384:101:B34:3E7B:6AF4:18CF]] 16:56, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

==Broken pages==

Hello, there are some pages that were created by the maintenance script that are all a subpage of Broken. You can find them by going down [[special:contribs/Maintenance script|here]]. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 07:43, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

:These pages don't even seem to be deletable. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 06:18, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
::Now fixed! [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 00:41, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

==Main page header blues are low contrans, and don't meet WCAG AAA standards.==

<nowiki>#</nowiki>7FB6FF for links and #004080 for background are too close to each other. It is improvement over prevous conmination, but still not super accessible for color blind people. Blue and black themes are quite hard to make because both are dark colors. You can ping me here or in Discord if you want to discuss accessibility. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:40, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Header Icons in vector-header class header are changing to black in dark theme==

Icons like Alerts, Notices, Watchlist and Personal settings are switching to black when device is in dark theme. Tested in chrome and firefox, on Linux (ubuntu 24.04 LTS + KDE) and Mac. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:44, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Visited links on dark blue background doesnt meet WCAG accessibility standards==

<nowiki>#</nowiki>6a60b0 for link text on #1b223d has contrast of 2.91 which is way off for color blind people. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:50, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Class infobox blocks are shifting layout and moves parts of first entry in lists they are above==

Good example is Previous discussions block in this page. It has too low width or margins, so flex layout wraps first entry in list around it. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:53, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==w/Special:Preferences header has no background==

w/Special:Preferences has same header functions as other pages header, but has other styling [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:59, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Category:Wiki root subcategories with 1 article should be always in expanded state==

This will reduce amount of clicks to some articles and make user experience little touch better [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:00, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Width radio buttons in Appearance section of vector-sticky-pinned-container navbar does not change anything==

Tested in chrome and firefox, both Linux (ubuntu 24.04 lts + KDE) and Mac. Width radio buttons don't change anything in any page I opened to check it out. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:04, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==/Sandbox and /Sandbox/Welcome are redundant==

/Sandbox/Welcome is looking same and does absolutely same stuff as /Sandbox [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:22, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==vector-sticky-pinned-container navbar hide button pinning to static header is counterintuitive==

If you click on hide option, It creates just another button in static header, which is super confusing for those who have not a lot of technical knowledge [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:31, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

:Same with tools being pinned to vector-menu-content-list [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:38, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==w/Special:Preferences ⧼prefs-reading⧽ key is not parsed==

This value is fallbacked as key name because it points to non existing entry [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:33, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==LibreWolf and Tor issue with new CRW extension==

Hello, LibreWolf and Tor both cannot use the new CRW extension as it needs "the new firefox". I clicked the download file option as well, but it doesn't work either for both. Might just be a Mozilla being almost as bad as Google sort of issue but this doesn't happen to any other extensions, so i doubt it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:41, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

:I'll pass this on, though to my knowledge there's no official support for either browser [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 17:44, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::They're both Firefox-based, and even extensions specifically made for Firefox and only firefox work with firefox-based browsers. This one is a very unusual exception. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 18:04, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Have had a chat with Jake, and seems it's (mostly) a config issue on our end, with the minimum Firefox version being specified somewhere or other. If you want to get to the extension straight away, you can get it directly from the extension github: https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/CRW-Extension
:::Otherwise, it's something we'll aim to resolve in the next release. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 18:09, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::You can download the extension, edit the <code>strict_min_version</code> in <code>manifest/firefox.json</code> (line 51) https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/CRW-Extension/blob/main/manifest/firefox.json#L51 to a lower Firefox version, then build and install it locally https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/CRW-Extension?tab=readme-ov-file#clone-and-build-the-extension as a temporary workaround. We'll be lowering the minimum version requirement in a future release. [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 18:17, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, will do that! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 18:19, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::WOW. I am in awe at how good the extension is now. This has completely changed since the previous version, I'm so glad I went into the effort of installing it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the kind words, glad you're enjoying it! [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 18:50, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

==Edit title names==

Multiple users have accidentally created pages with incorrect titles (e.g., including a year or typos). Including myself, please allow users to edit title names, because [Year] Doesn't always show up in the search and it's annoying that we cannot fix titles

[[User:A Clippy|A Clippy]] ([[User talk:A Clippy|talk]]) 09:31, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

:Hi, this is possible, you just need to be confirmed. I'll make you confirmed and tell you how to do it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:27, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
::What you need to do is click on the 'Tools' button on the right above the article if you have it, and from there even if you don't have it on the right a 'move' button should appear. Click that and move the page. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:28, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Thank you! [[User:A Clippy|A Clippy]] ([[User talk:A Clippy|talk]]) 06:23, 8 March 2026 (UTC)

Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Bugs

2026-03-05T09:31:53Z

A Clippy: /* Edit title names */ new section

[[Category:CRW]]
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'''Please do not report security issues here'''. Email them to '''security@fulu.org''' instead.

*'''Check for duplicates:''' look through existing reports before posting to avoid repeats.
*'''System details:''' include your operating system, browser, and platform (e.g. Windows, macOS, Linux, x86, ARM, Chrome, Edge, Safari, Firefox).
*'''Inputs and outputs:''' describe what you did, what you expected to happen, and what actually happened.
*'''Reproduction steps:''' provide clear, step-by-step instructions so developers can replicate the bug.
*For general discussions or suggestions not related to bugs, please use the [[Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderators' noticeboard|Moderators' noticeboard]] instead.

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==Wiki search engine indexing==

There are a couple of posts asking about search engine indexing of this wiki: [[Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderators' noticeboard#Should CRW be indexed by search engines?]] and [[Talk:Main Page#Suggestion: Implementing a /robots.txt page]]. '''''[[User:JackFromWisconsin|📎 JackFromWisconsin]]''''' ([[User_talk:JackFromWisconsin|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/JackFromWisconsin|contribs]]) 02:20, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

:We are currently looking into this and I will update the thread as and when we have a solution or any further news. [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 00:38, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

==How do you edit beginning of an article with StubNotice?==

I was trying to edit the beginning of the article on [[Medical ventilator]] (to add a see also link to the medical equipment article).

The article has a StubNotice template at the beginning (on the same line as the beginning of the first paragraph).

When I try to save changes after making ANY change to the text on the same line as the stub notice template, it will not save (it gives me a message telling me about the procedure for requesting stubnotice removal). I am not trying to move or remove the stub notice, I didn't touch that. Even if all I try to do is put a newline or space after the template, or change words on the first line, it won't let me. This happens whether I use the visual editor or the source editor. I am using firefox running on linux.

I can save changes later on in that article, and I have edited other articles marked as stubs without issue.

The stubnotice documentation and talk page do not seem to document this behaviour, or tell me what to do. If this is desired behaviour, then the template should explain how to handle it.

Thank you. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 21:31, 24 September 2025 (UTC)

:Not a mod, but I think I can respond to this. You can’t and this is pretty much desired behaviour. The [[Special:AbuseFilter|Abuse filter]] is the reason for it. It does attack more than just that area too as it thinks you’re changing the notice. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 07:40, 28 September 2025 (UTC)
::I don't understand why this behavior would be desired. To me it seems like a bug, where the abuse filter is protecting more than it should.
::Regardless, how can we improve the lead paragraph when we can not change it?
::*Are we supposed to duplicate the immutable first paragraph, putting any revisions/improvements in a secondary copy of the first paragraph? Is there a standard template or way to document what is going on so it doesn't confuse readers when they see two first paragraphs?
::*Do we need to propose edits to the first paragraph in some form on the talk page, then request an administrator to come and actually make the change? (If so, how/where do we make the request?)
::*Are we expected to just ignore problems in the first paragraph, and revise the rest of it until the stub can be removed?
::Thanks. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 01:37, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::I wonder if this edit, where an administrator used the visual editor to delete a deletion tag after the stubnotice might be part of the problem. Prior to that edit, the stubnotice was on its own line. After that edit, the stubnotice is on the same line as the first paragraph.
::https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Shortage_of_medical_ventilators_during_the_COVID_pandemic&diff=prev&oldid=25186
::If the abuse filter intentionally protects everything on the stubnotice line, then the problem may be in the visual editor, which should ensure that it preserves the newline at the end of a protected line. (At the very least, it should warn an administrator when they are suddenly protecting a bunch of text that wasn't protected before.) [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 02:06, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
:::I personally don’t like the current ‘stub notice can only be removed by mods’ anyway, and there are loads of article maintenance templates which '''don’t have this for some reason'''. Proposing edits in talk page is actually done on Wikipedia in the form of edit requests, where a mod will look at it there, but the thing is it won’t alert mods here to the request by just posting about it. The point about it protects the entire line seems valid to me and makes complete sense from my own experience, so I do think that is the most likely scenario. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 15:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)
::::This is by design so that editors do not remove the notice until its been removed by staff for completeness. Once work on an article is completed you can post an appeal in the noticeboard or discord #appeals staff do actively check these so that peer edits can be approved and notices removed. This is both by policy and system design; it is not a bug. If you have thoughts on how we can improve this process feel free to bring it up in the dashboard - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 15:46, 12 October 2025 (UTC)
:::::If this is desired behavior -- why? What purpose does it serve making it so the ''entire first paragraph'' of an article is ''immutable''?
:::::Note that the issue is the protection of the rest of the line, not the protection of the notice itself.
:::::@[[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] Sorry, I don't know where/what the dashboard is, please give me a link. In the meantime, I will post suggestions for improvement here. Thank you.
:::::How to improve it:
:::::*Fix the code, so that only the stubnotice template is protected, not the rest of the line.
:::::*Fix the code when submitting a change so that it ''always'' adds a newline immediately after a stubnotice (or other protected template) if there isn't one there.
:::::*When a moderator submits a change with anything on the same line as a protected template, (either by adding to it, or by deleting the newline at the end of the line) the software should issue a warning, telling them what this will do to everybody else and asking them to confirm that they really want to do that. (Make the warning simple, clear, blatant, something you have to type a response to so people will read it and not autoclick.)
:::::Temporary workarounds:
:::::Add cautionary notices to the stubnotice template and its documentation.
:::::*The documentation should explain this behavior, tell moderators what the intended use of protecting the rest of the line is, and warn moderators about the problems it can cause.
:::::*If the visual editor is part of the problem (as I suspect it may be, given the edit which caused the problem in this article), then the documentation should warn moderators to be especially careful when using it around stubnotices.
:::::*The template text should explain what is going on, so an editor encountering the problem for the first time knows what is happening, and what to do about it. (How to get help to fix this case.) [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 19:46, 18 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::Just found that the template:incomplete has same problem. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 05:17, 19 October 2025 (UTC)
::::::That part about the first paragraph being un-editable is not intended but the fact that users cannot edit the stub notice (or other notices) is created so someone cant just arbitrariliy edit their post removing the notices without staff review and formal appeal of the action by the user. As for where the dashboard is [[Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderators' noticeboard]] here is a link to it. As for the rest of your concerns I will flag down one of the tech folks or Keith for you to provide a more detailed explaination or look into exactly why everything in a first paragraph is being locked down as if someone adds a stub notices it should be at the top and above all text so there should be a seperation between the article text and the stub notice. This might also just be a policy thing we need to discuss as the stub notice is working as intended but the text after it being locked is not. - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 08:24, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

==Numeric usernames in cites produce warnings==
Usernames allow a wide range of characters. When <code>|author=</code> is used, the warning should not exist. The numberic warning should still exist on <code>|last=</code> and <code>|first=</code>. Many pages in [[:Category:CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list]] are false positives. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C8:2384:101:B34:3E7B:6AF4:18CF|2A00:23C8:2384:101:B34:3E7B:6AF4:18CF]] 16:56, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

==Broken pages==

Hello, there are some pages that were created by the maintenance script that are all a subpage of Broken. You can find them by going down [[special:contribs/Maintenance script|here]]. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 07:43, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

:These pages don't even seem to be deletable. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 06:18, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

==Main page header blues are low contrans, and don't meet WCAG AAA standards.==

<nowiki>#</nowiki>7FB6FF for links and #004080 for background are too close to each other. It is improvement over prevous conmination, but still not super accessible for color blind people. Blue and black themes are quite hard to make because both are dark colors. You can ping me here or in Discord if you want to discuss accessibility. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:40, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Header Icons in vector-header class header are changing to black in dark theme==

Icons like Alerts, Notices, Watchlist and Personal settings are switching to black when device is in dark theme. Tested in chrome and firefox, on Linux (ubuntu 24.04 LTS + KDE) and Mac. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:44, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Visited links on dark blue background doesnt meet WCAG accessibility standards==

<nowiki>#</nowiki>6a60b0 for link text on #1b223d has contrast of 2.91 which is way off for color blind people. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:50, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Class infobox blocks are shifting layout and moves parts of first entry in lists they are above==

Good example is Previous discussions block in this page. It has too low width or margins, so flex layout wraps first entry in list around it. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:53, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==w/Special:Preferences header has no background==

w/Special:Preferences has same header functions as other pages header, but has other styling [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 22:59, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Category:Wiki root subcategories with 1 article should be always in expanded state==

This will reduce amount of clicks to some articles and make user experience little touch better [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:00, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==Width radio buttons in Appearance section of vector-sticky-pinned-container navbar does not change anything==

Tested in chrome and firefox, both Linux (ubuntu 24.04 lts + KDE) and Mac. Width radio buttons don't change anything in any page I opened to check it out. [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:04, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==/Sandbox and /Sandbox/Welcome are redundant==

/Sandbox/Welcome is looking same and does absolutely same stuff as /Sandbox [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:22, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==vector-sticky-pinned-container navbar hide button pinning to static header is counterintuitive==

If you click on hide option, It creates just another button in static header, which is super confusing for those who have not a lot of technical knowledge [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:31, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

:Same with tools being pinned to vector-menu-content-list [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:38, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==w/Special:Preferences ⧼prefs-reading⧽ key is not parsed==

This value is fallbacked as key name because it points to non existing entry [[User:Banana|Banana]] ([[User talk:Banana|talk]]) 23:33, 4 February 2026 (UTC)

==where is the total bloody beginner tutorial?==

'''pretty experienced with userforums but really lost here'''

I looked up the "help" section

I looked up the FaQ

I joined discord

'''Still I am lost !'''

non of these pages gave me any information how to proceed.

The creator of this website - at least to me - seem to suffer what I call the experts blindness for beginner difficulties.

I am not a website creator or a wiki creator. Still I would like to contribute to this website.

But I have '''NO''' Clue how to do that. As I can '''NOT''' not even can post messages on discord

I have chosen this way to send you a message by misusing the "create a page"-function for writing to you

I am '''NOT''' familiar with

- discord

- creating wikipages

I do not understand Your concept in which order to read on this website to get started. You assume wayyyy too much knowledge.

And my main goal is to post an idea in a classical userforum. Something similar to the arduino-userforum.

Now I am curoius of somebody well see this page and react to it. [[User:StefanL38|StefanL38]] ([[User talk:StefanL38|talk]]) 16:20, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

:This would be better suited for the moderator noticeboard as this is not a system bug or security issue. Please ask for assistance in the [[Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderators' noticeboard]]. - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 16:31, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::I've replied to this on the page they created here: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/User:StefanL38/Discussion_forum [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 17:50, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

==LibreWolf and Tor issue with new CRW extension==

Hello, LibreWolf and Tor both cannot use the new CRW extension as it needs "the new firefox". I clicked the download file option as well, but it doesn't work either for both. Might just be a Mozilla being almost as bad as Google sort of issue but this doesn't happen to any other extensions, so i doubt it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:41, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

:I'll pass this on, though to my knowledge there's no official support for either browser [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 17:44, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::They're both Firefox-based, and even extensions specifically made for Firefox and only firefox work with firefox-based browsers. This one is a very unusual exception. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 18:04, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::Have had a chat with Jake, and seems it's (mostly) a config issue on our end, with the minimum Firefox version being specified somewhere or other. If you want to get to the extension straight away, you can get it directly from the extension github: https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/CRW-Extension
:::Otherwise, it's something we'll aim to resolve in the next release. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 18:09, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::You can download the extension, edit the <code>strict_min_version</code> in <code>manifest/firefox.json</code> (line 51) https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/CRW-Extension/blob/main/manifest/firefox.json#L51 to a lower Firefox version, then build and install it locally https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/CRW-Extension?tab=readme-ov-file#clone-and-build-the-extension as a temporary workaround. We'll be lowering the minimum version requirement in a future release. [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 18:17, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, will do that! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 18:19, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
::::::WOW. I am in awe at how good the extension is now. This has completely changed since the previous version, I'm so glad I went into the effort of installing it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 18:48, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the kind words, glad you're enjoying it! [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 18:50, 4 March 2026 (UTC)

== Edit title names ==

Multiple users have accidentally created pages with incorrect titles (e.g., including a year or typos). Including myself, please allow users to edit title names, because [Year] Doesn't always show up in the search and it's annoying that we cannot fix titles

[[User:A Clippy|A Clippy]] ([[User talk:A Clippy|talk]]) 09:31, 5 March 2026 (UTC)