Talk:Futurehome Smarthub mandatory subscription fee

2025-09-01T16:13:07Z

HumanShyGuy:

== Re: how lying companies damage the Rossmann brand ==

Since no email was provided, only the URL to history page, I suppose I shall write here.

Best I can suggest is to archive any and all pages you refer to in videos on as many archiving services as possible.

There's a Firefox addon "Web Archives" that should make it a little faster to do, however an automated solution would certainly be an improvement. It's not unlikely there's an equivalent to overcast07/wayback-machine-spn-scripts that also archives to other services.

As for having a provable copy of a page with proof better than just "trust me bro", I don't think there is a way. It looks like you can only trust copies based on who hosts them. Additionally, note the "why" field on IA in case an archivist group is the source instead of IA itself, because that's another way to archive to Wayback Machine.

So, why not? A raw copy of the page secured by SSL wouldn't prove anything because an active session uses a symmetric key, which essentially means you can fake it by using any random key and encrypt the message with it. Since the key is always random, it proves nothing.

Unless the host cryptographically signs their pages (which would, of course, not be desirable for hiding the past), I don't think there's another way.

Maybe another idea would be to push for a law that force the website to archive any change that they made to ensure no fraud is made, or to push a law or exception to allow archiving website to keep the archive of the website for potentiel proof that a company did commits a crime and would try to hide any evidence of said crime those giving us the consumer probably the only way to get evidence and proove them of there wrong.

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