Talk:Hogwarts Legacy

2025-02-06T23:08:37Z

Moritz:

==Opt Out form==
The bullet point in the "Incidents" section claims that the opt-out form is not available within the EU, however I am able to view a (barely usable) form under this link http://pages.warnerbros.com/arbitration-opt-out-wb, which I found on the Steam store https://store.steampowered.com/eula/990080_eula_0. As I don't own the game, I am unable to verify that this version of the EULA is the same that is shown in the game but I have no reason to think otherwise.

I however see a totally different problem, which is that Warner Bros wants you to send them your full name, your email address, as well as your mailing address via an unencrypted connection. [[User:Moritz|Moritz]] ([[User talk:Moritz|talk]]) 23:07, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Talk:Hogwarts Legacy

2025-02-06T22:50:15Z

Moritz: starting discussion about the eula opt out form

===Opt Out form===
The bullet point in the "Incidents" section claims that the opt-out form is not available within the EU, however I am able to view a (barely usable) form under this link http://pages.warnerbros.com/arbitration-opt-out-wb, which I found on the Steam store https://store.steampowered.com/eula/990080_eula_0. As I don't own the game, I am unable to verify that this version of the EULA is the same that is shown in the game but I have no reason to think otherwise.

I however see a totally different problem, which is that Warner Bros wants you to send them your full name, your email address, as well as your mailing address via an unencrypted connection.

Hogwarts Legacy

2025-02-06T22:28:00Z

Moritz: /* Incidents */

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| Release Year =2023
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[[wikipedia:Hogwarts_Legacy|Hogwarts Legacy]] is a video game released by Warner Brothers Games for Windows, PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo.{{Citation needed}}

==Consumer impact summary==
''Overview of concerns that arise from the conduct towards users of the product (if applicable):''
*''User Freedom''
*''User Privacy''
*Changing Terms after the Sale

==Incidents==
This is a list of all consumer protection incidents related to this product. Any incidents not mentioned here can be found in the [[:Category:{{PAGENAME}}|{{PAGENAME}} category]].
*Modding Support Released (''January 2025''): ''Release of modding support changed EULA''<ref>https://store.steampowered.com/eula/990080_eula_0</ref> ''to include expansive Data Collection clauses without legally required opt-out option. (Link to Opt out form is "Not available in your region" when accessed from the EU.) After forced update the game starts with an un-skip-able "Agree to new Terms" screen. Only option to leave this screen is to terminate the program.''{{Citation needed}}

==See also==
''Link to relevant theme articles or products with similar incidents.''

==References==
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HP Instant Ink

2025-02-06T22:18:24Z

Moritz: /* Cost savings and Pricing */

{{InfoboxProductLine
| Title = HP Instant Ink
| Release Year = 2013
| Product Type = Subscription Service
| In Production = Yes
| Official Website = [https://instantink.hpconnected.com HP Instant Ink]
| Logo = Hp-ii-logo.webp
}}'''HP Instant Ink''' is a subscription service launched by [[HP Inc.]] for their printers in late 2013.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220503181925/https://www.therecycler.com/posts/hp-launches-new-instant-ink-programme/ "HP launches new Instant Ink programme The Recycler via Internet Archive]" - archive.org - archived 2022-05-22</ref> Consumers with compatible printers can choose from five different plans based on their usage volume and receive a set amount of ink each month to cover that usage. The monthly price includes the relevant ink or toner, delivery, and recycling of used cartridges.

In 2024, HP began offering paper as part of the monthly plans, for an additional fee. This was rolled out to countries including the US, the UK, metropolitan France, and Germany.<ref>[https://archive.is/yFWIQ "HP paper Add-on Service"] -archive.is - accessed 2025-01-28</ref>

Also in 2024 [[HP All-In Plan]], a new printer-lease program was announced. This program expanded from just cartridges to include a printer that, depending on the tier of subscription, limited the number of pages that could be print, effectively removing the ability to use third-party cartridges.<ref>[https://www.hp.com/us-en/all-in-plan/printers.html HP All In Plan]</ref> The program at the time of writing offers three different printers, each with various printing plans based on the number of pages to be printed, at different prices.

==Consumer impact summary==
Use of a subscription service for ink/toner cartridges and/or printers allows HP to maintain post-sale control of a product the consumer used to purchase and own outright. Such practices limit autonomy and freedom of consumer to use the products they pay for as they see fit.<ref> See section on limitation of printer usability</ref> Further using a subscription service means the consumer uses these products under specific terms that can change at any time<ref name="TOS">[https://instantink.hpconnected.com/us/en/terms Terms of service HP instant ink] see section 3</ref> leaving them without recourse in many cases.

Of note is also the limitation to use specific brands of ink extending market control of the manufacturer and locking the consumer to an ecosystem entirely under their control.

==Incidents==
Incidents affecting the entire product line can be found in the company article: [[HP Inc.]]

===Cost savings and Pricing===
As of January 2025, the pricing for each tier of the service for customers in the US was as follows:

<div style="display: flex;justify-content: space-around;">

{| class="wikitable"
! colspan="6" |HP Instant Ink
|-
|
!Light
!Occasional
!Moderate
!Frequent
!Business
|-
!'''Pages / Month'''
|10
|50
|100
|300
|700
|-
!'''$US / Month'''
|1.49
|4.99
|6.99
|13.99
|27.99
|-
! colspan="6" |Paper Plan
|-
!'''+$US / Month'''
|0.79
|1.99
|3.49
|5.99
|10.99
|-
!'''Total'''
|2.28
|6.98
|10.48
|19.98
|38.98
|}
</div>

HP claims that "most customers save on ink and many save up to 50% compared to buying traditional ink cartridges."<ref>[https://www.hp.com/us-en/printers/instant-ink/faq.html#faq HP Instant Ink FAQ.]</ref> The cost savings are based on the monthly subscription cost of the 700-pages-per-month "Business" plan of the program, and the results are compared to the cost per page to print ISO/IEC 24711 pages on A4 paper in color.

The printers used in the study that led to these findings in the 2022 and 2023 reports<ref>[https://keypointintelligence.com/HPInstantInk Keypoint Intelligence Study]</ref> were all HP branded, and the ink or toner was Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) (i.e. not using third-party inks), as HP notes in their FAQ sections. Comparisons were not made with the XL cartridges, which are cheaper per unit of ink.

===Cancellation or alteration of plans===

HP Instant Ink can be canceled at any time according to the terms of service<ref>[https://instantink.hpconnected.com/us/en/terms HP Instant Ink Terms]</ref> with billing stopping at the end of the month. Upon cancellation, all outstanding debts are collected.

The HP All-in program can be canceled for free if done within 30 days of enrolling, and the printer is returned within 10 days of cancellation. However, if the subscription has been maintained for longer than 30 days and less than 24 months, there are additional fees to cancel (as per the FAQ on Jan 13).

At the time of writing, the Basic printer starts at $6.99 per month ($83.88 per year), and cancellation after 30 days but before 12 months will cost $120 in fees. Before 24 months, it would cost $60 in fees. That is 143% and 71% of the per-year cost of this plan, respectively.

===HP+ trial activation and limitation of printer usability===
HP+ is a free six-month trial of HP Instant Ink that comes with a new printer. It is optional, but it is extremely easy for a user to activate HP+ during installation.<ref>https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/hp-instant-ink-vs-hp-plus-vs-hp-smart-which-ink-program-saves-you-the-most</ref> After activating HP+, the printer is permanently flashed with updated firmware, which causes the printer to only accept genuine HP-branded consumables.<ref>https://www-dodrukarki-pl.translate.goog/blog/dlaczego-drukarki-z-serii-hp-nie-obsluguja-zamiennikow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pl&_x_tr_pto=wapp</ref>

All HP printer models ending with an "e" (for example ''HP OfficeJet 8035e'') support activating HP+.<ref>https://support.shopperplus.com/en/support/solutions/articles/9000227500-hp-printers-models-ending-with-the-letter-e-does-not-recognize-compatible-cartridges</ref> This has the potential to devalue used HP printers in this class, as the previous owner of the printer may have activated HP+, rendering the printer incompatible with cheaper non-OEM replacement ink cartridges or toner.

==Lawsuit==

On July 6, 2021, a [[class action|class-action lawsuit]] was filed against HP.<ref>[https://www.classaction.org/media/barnert-v-hp-inc.pdf Barnert v HP Inc.] Case File via classaction.org</ref>

The main allegations made in the suit were:

*HP will block you from using cartridges or ink purchased outside of the program, a fact they do not disclose.
*Cartridges and toners are not always sent on time.
*Sometimes cartridges are faulty on arrival.
*Prepaid return mailers are not always supplied.
*Upon cancellation, you cannot use the remainder of your ink.

In February 2023, HP settled the complaints, and the parties have filed for dismissal.<ref>[https://www.therecycler.com/posts/hp-settles-instant-ink-complaint/ HP settles Instant Ink Complaint]</ref>

==Workarounds==
It is possible on some HP cartridge models and their respective printers to replace the DRM chip of an incompatible cartridge with one from a compatible OEM cartridge. This possible because many HP cartridge models share the exact same physical dimensions despite the difference in name. This also allows for the use of less expensive, third-party cartridges or refillable cartridges in printers that may not have had them available for purchase otherwise.

''[[HP Ink Cartridge ID Chip Swap Guide|Read the full guide here.]]''

==See also==
*[[HP Inc.]]
*[[Canon Ink DRM]]
*[[Right to own]]
*[[Subscription service]]

==References==

[[Category:Products]]
[[Category:Lawsuits]]
[[Category:Subscription-based services]]
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