Template talk:StubNotice

Duplicate title text, simplify text

Two issues:

1. The notice has 2 titles: "Article Status Notice: This Article is a stub" and "Notice: This Article Requires Additional Expansion". Can we look at having just a single title? Maybe just "This Article is a stub"
2. The text of the notice is really long and obsures the article content. It would be really useful if the notice was similar to Wikipedia's by including a single sentence linking to the guidelines.

(Pinging @Keith so this gets some attention, sorry) JP (talk) 17:02, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

This could also be added under a details item ("Show more"), just like the incomplete article notice. JP (talk) 17:07, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

No worries about the ping! that's what I'm here for.

will do a revision of the notice - we're planning to make all of these notices a bit shorter and more snappy Keith (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Help, it won't let me edit an article with a stubnotice.

If you are not a moderator, the software will reject ALL changes to the line that contains the stubnotice template. So if there are templates or text on the same line as the stubnotice, only a moderator can change them.

Evidently the software doesn't warn moderators about this behavior, so they may put the first paragraph of the article on the same line, and nobody can edit it, and the error message you get when you try is totally unhelpful, and the moderator doesn't even realize what they did.

I posted a bug report on this Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Bugs under the title How do you edit beginning of an article with StubNotice? I haven't gotten a response on preferred workaround.

• You could try looking in the article history, see if you can figure out which admin made the first paragraph uneditable, and ask them to put in a newline.
• You could ask at the administrators notice board for somebody to add the newline.
• As a temporary measure, you could make a second copy of the lead paragraph, make your edits on that, and add a comment explaining why two lead paragraphs.
• Please consider posting a brief message on the bug report if this was helpful (or if have other suggestions).
• If you find other templates with the same behavior, please add a similar explanation to them.

Hope this helps. Drakeula (talk) 20:03, 18 October 2025 (UTC)