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Atsumari: /* Fake DMCA takedown */ Reply

2026-06-06T23:31:32Z

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	This page was edited with "DMCA takedown" as reason by a user that was just created: https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Model_F_Labs&action=history If you see the nature of the edits, it seems rather likely this was done in an attempt to remove critique. [[User:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|NonPassivatedMOSFET]] ([[User talk:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|talk]]) 20:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		This page was edited with "DMCA takedown" as reason by a user that was just created: https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Model_F_Labs&action=history If you see the nature of the edits, it seems rather likely this was done in an attempt to remove critique. [[User:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|NonPassivatedMOSFET]] ([[User talk:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|talk]]) 20:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

			:It looks like this was reversed. If there still seems to be issues with it, I can have Keith look into this as DMCA related issues are legal matters, and outside of the scope of normal support from the mods and folks like me. So just let us know and if this reappears or if there’s anything that happens to the article, please update us here and I’ll get Keith to look at it.- [[User:Atsumari\|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari\|talk]]) 23:31, 6 June 2026 (UTC)

	==Page resurrection request==		==Page resurrection request==

15.181.161.29: /* Page resurrection request */

2026-06-03T12:16:00Z

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	:After reading through the links you provided, I do not see how the labor issue, although concerning, is relevant from a consumer rights perspective. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)		:After reading through the links you provided, I do not see how the labor issue, although concerning, is relevant from a consumer rights perspective. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
	::The disbanding of Community Tech team at Wikipedia will make it easier for WMF and so on to initiate changes that are deemed "unpopular", which will harm the interests of consumers/readers in the long term. Not to mention many volunteer editors are at the same time, readers. As one had pointed out, you can and should look at this [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Updates the archives] of Community Wishlist] to see how the team had contributed to the well-being of the encyclopedia over time. Dark mode is just one of the features that if I can remember, was requested that way.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29\|15.181.161.29]] 11:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)		::The disbanding of Community Tech team at Wikipedia will make it easier for WMF and so on to initiate changes that are deemed "unpopular", which will harm the interests of consumers/readers in the long term. Not to mention many volunteer editors are at the same time, readers. As one had pointed out, you can and should look at this [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Updates the archives] of Community Wishlist to see how the team had contributed to the well-being of the encyclopedia over time. Dark mode is just one of the features that if I can remember, was requested that way.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29\|15.181.161.29]] 11:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
	:::I don't really think that the ongoing dispute falls into the Wiki's scope, and will outline my reasoning below:		:::I don't really think that the ongoing dispute falls into the Wiki's scope, and will outline my reasoning below:
	:::Changes to the internal governance of an organization, or labour disputes in general, are not relevant to the wiki - there needs to be some direct, specific, and notable impact on consumers.		:::Changes to the internal governance of an organization, or labour disputes in general, are not relevant to the wiki - there needs to be some direct, specific, and notable impact on consumers.
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	:::The only Wikipedia-related controversy I'm aware of that I could imagine being actually relevant to the wiki would be the long-standing controversies around whether or not the various Wikipedia donation banners were misleading as to the effect donations would have on Wikipedia's maintenance. While it being donations to charity puts a bit of a spin on it, misleading advertising is 100% relevant to the wiki, and there's definitely been enough debate and discussion and coverage on that topic over the years to meet notability and sourcing criteria. Even then, it's probably open to some debate. Would a charity that accepts donations and then the person running the charity embezzles the money and runs off, be a consumer rights issue? idk.		:::The only Wikipedia-related controversy I'm aware of that I could imagine being actually relevant to the wiki would be the long-standing controversies around whether or not the various Wikipedia donation banners were misleading as to the effect donations would have on Wikipedia's maintenance. While it being donations to charity puts a bit of a spin on it, misleading advertising is 100% relevant to the wiki, and there's definitely been enough debate and discussion and coverage on that topic over the years to meet notability and sourcing criteria. Even then, it's probably open to some debate. Would a charity that accepts donations and then the person running the charity embezzles the money and runs off, be a consumer rights issue? idk.
	:::Ultimately, since the Wikipedia platform is delivered freely and is also not 'paid for' through user data, it makes a lot of arguments for consumer rights relevancy more difficult. If they decided to shut the whole thing down tomorrow, it would be a great loss for humanity, but I'm still not sure whether it would be wiki-relevant. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 01:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)		:::Ultimately, since the Wikipedia platform is delivered freely and is also not 'paid for' through user data, it makes a lot of arguments for consumer rights relevancy more difficult. If they decided to shut the whole thing down tomorrow, it would be a great loss for humanity, but I'm still not sure whether it would be wiki-relevant. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 01:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
			::::Thanks. If that page were to be resurrected, it will be pretty much a single-topic page focusing on the Wikipedia misleading donation and financial cancer issues, right? Perhaps for clarification there should be an external link section to a page on SourceWatch or so on that documents Wikipedia-related issues, along with a small note clarifying that most of the information on there can't be included here due to guideline restrictions, but the external link to the page containing the info is included just as courtesy for readers.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29\|15.181.161.29]] 12:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

Keith: /* Page resurrection request */ Reply

2026-06-03T01:44:20Z

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	:After reading through the links you provided, I do not see how the labor issue, although concerning, is relevant from a consumer rights perspective. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)		:After reading through the links you provided, I do not see how the labor issue, although concerning, is relevant from a consumer rights perspective. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
	::The disbanding of Community Tech team at Wikipedia will make it easier for WMF and so on to initiate changes that are deemed "unpopular", which will harm the interests of consumers/readers in the long term. Not to mention many volunteer editors are at the same time, readers. As one had pointed out, you can and should look at this [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Updates the archives] of Community Wishlist] to see how the team had contributed to the well-being of the encyclopedia over time. Dark mode is just one of the features that if I can remember, was requested that way.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29\|15.181.161.29]] 11:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)		::The disbanding of Community Tech team at Wikipedia will make it easier for WMF and so on to initiate changes that are deemed "unpopular", which will harm the interests of consumers/readers in the long term. Not to mention many volunteer editors are at the same time, readers. As one had pointed out, you can and should look at this [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Updates the archives] of Community Wishlist] to see how the team had contributed to the well-being of the encyclopedia over time. Dark mode is just one of the features that if I can remember, was requested that way.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29\|15.181.161.29]] 11:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
			:::I don't really think that the ongoing dispute falls into the Wiki's scope, and will outline my reasoning below:
			:::Changes to the internal governance of an organization, or labour disputes in general, are not relevant to the wiki - there needs to be some direct, specific, and notable impact on consumers.
			:::We also do not cover generic product quality issues, despite any impact they may have on consumers, unless there is some aggravating factor such as safety, an attempt to cover up the quality issue by the company, or it being a willful degradation in quality of a product that users had already paid for. If a company makes a bad product, that is a skill issue, rather than a consumer rights issue, unless consumers were promised and paid for a substantially different product to the one they received.
			:::Therefore, if a labour dispute or similar threatened to reduce the quality of a company's product, it would not be relevant to the wiki. E.g. if the company behind a game (that had not come out yet and which had not accepted pre-orders) decided to scrap their entire art team and replace it with AI slop, kicking off a labour dispute with product quality implications, then that would not be a consumer rights issue to be covered on the wiki. If, however, a company had sold pre-orders or a season pass for a DLC that was upcoming, then they sacked everyone who was meant to deliver that content, then that product quality issue would become a wiki-relevant issue once it becomes clear in reporting that the promised and paid-for content was not going to be delivered.
			:::The only Wikipedia-related controversy I'm aware of that I could imagine being actually relevant to the wiki would be the long-standing controversies around whether or not the various Wikipedia donation banners were misleading as to the effect donations would have on Wikipedia's maintenance. While it being donations to charity puts a bit of a spin on it, misleading advertising is 100% relevant to the wiki, and there's definitely been enough debate and discussion and coverage on that topic over the years to meet notability and sourcing criteria. Even then, it's probably open to some debate. Would a charity that accepts donations and then the person running the charity embezzles the money and runs off, be a consumer rights issue? idk.
			:::Ultimately, since the Wikipedia platform is delivered freely and is also not 'paid for' through user data, it makes a lot of arguments for consumer rights relevancy more difficult. If they decided to shut the whole thing down tomorrow, it would be a great loss for humanity, but I'm still not sure whether it would be wiki-relevant. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 01:44, 3 June 2026 (UTC)

15.181.161.29: /* Page resurrection request */ Reply

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	:After reading through the links you provided, I do not see how the labor issue, although concerning, is relevant from a consumer rights perspective. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)		:After reading through the links you provided, I do not see how the labor issue, although concerning, is relevant from a consumer rights perspective. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
			::The disbanding of Community Tech team at Wikipedia will make it easier for WMF and so on to initiate changes that are deemed "unpopular", which will harm the interests of consumers/readers in the long term. Not to mention many volunteer editors are at the same time, readers. As one had pointed out, you can and should look at this [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist/Updates the archives] of Community Wishlist] to see how the team had contributed to the well-being of the encyclopedia over time. Dark mode is just one of the features that if I can remember, was requested that way.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29\|15.181.161.29]] 11:13, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

Sojourna: /* Page resurrection request */ Reply

2026-06-02T04:15:32Z

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52.220.157.15: /* Page resurrection request */

2026-06-01T22:38:05Z

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	* https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/hundreds-of-wikipedia-editors-are-threatening-to-go-on-strike-and-the-reason-is-these-engineers/articleshow/131394771.cms		* https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/hundreds-of-wikipedia-editors-are-threatening-to-go-on-strike-and-the-reason-is-these-engineers/articleshow/131394771.cms

	* https://~~timesofindia~~.~~indiatimes~~.com/~~technology/tech-~~news/~~hundreds-of-~~wikipedia-editors-~~are-threatening-to-go-on~~-strike-~~and~~-~~the-reason-is-these-engineers/articleshow/131394771.cms~~		* https://www.pcmag.com/news/wikipedia-editors-could-strike-following-layoffs


	The page [[Wikipedia]] and/or [[Wikimedia Foundation]] are theredore requested to be resurrected. In hindsight I feel that the fussy attitude by Beanie Bo against the inclusion of Wikipedia issues into the wiki scope looks ridiculous in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/52.220.157.15\|52.220.157.15]] 22:35, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		The page [[Wikipedia]] and/or [[Wikimedia Foundation]] are theredore requested to be resurrected. In hindsight I feel that the fussy attitude by Beanie Bo against the inclusion of Wikipedia issues into the wiki scope looks ridiculous in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/52.220.157.15\|52.220.157.15]] 22:35, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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	This page was edited with "DMCA takedown" as reason by a user that was just created: https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Model_F_Labs&action=history If you see the nature of the edits, it seems rather likely this was done in an attempt to remove critique. [[User:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|NonPassivatedMOSFET]] ([[User talk:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|talk]]) 20:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		This page was edited with "DMCA takedown" as reason by a user that was just created: https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Model_F_Labs&action=history If you see the nature of the edits, it seems rather likely this was done in an attempt to remove critique. [[User:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|NonPassivatedMOSFET]] ([[User talk:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|talk]]) 20:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

			== Page resurrection request ==

			Last year there was an argument on whether some community toxicity cases and management issues at the Wikipedia platform fall within the scope of this wiki or not.

			Recently there's some developments that can finally settle the case and which will fall within this wiki's scope this time around, as editors on Wikipedia are threatening a worker's strike after the WMF disbands the entire Community Tech team. Relevant links:

			* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:COMMTECHGATE

			* https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943

			* https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-runs-on-people-it-shouldnt-run-over-people-48823f4238bb

			* https://www.theverge.com/report/939442/wikipedia-editors-protest-wikimedia-layoffs-strike

			* https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/hundreds-of-wikipedia-editors-are-threatening-to-go-on-strike-and-the-reason-is-these-engineers/articleshow/131394771.cms

			* https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/hundreds-of-wikipedia-editors-are-threatening-to-go-on-strike-and-the-reason-is-these-engineers/articleshow/131394771.cms


			The page [[Wikipedia]] and/or [[Wikimedia Foundation]] are theredore requested to be resurrected. In hindsight I feel that the fussy attitude by Beanie Bo against the inclusion of Wikipedia issues into the wiki scope looks ridiculous in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/52.220.157.15\|52.220.157.15]] 22:35, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

NonPassivatedMOSFET: /* Fake DMCA takedown */ new section

2026-06-01T20:32:11Z

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	::[[Adobe]] has many incidents that could be converted into excerpts.		::[[Adobe]] has many incidents that could be converted into excerpts.
	::[[European Union#Stop Destroying Videogames (ECI)]] excerpts smaller parts of [[SKG]] (2nd argument (section), <code>paragraphs=</code> and <code>hat=no</code> in use). [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 11:41, 20 May 2026 (UTC)		::[[European Union#Stop Destroying Videogames (ECI)]] excerpts smaller parts of [[SKG]] (2nd argument (section), <code>paragraphs=</code> and <code>hat=no</code> in use). [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 11:41, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

			== Fake DMCA takedown ==

			This page was edited with "DMCA takedown" as reason by a user that was just created: https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Model_F_Labs&action=history If you see the nature of the edits, it seems rather likely this was done in an attempt to remove critique. [[User:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|NonPassivatedMOSFET]] ([[User talk:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|talk]]) 20:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

Tracerneo: /* Editing templates, protected pages, deleting irrelevant articles */ Reply

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Editing templates, protected pages, deleting irrelevant articles: Reply

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	:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
	::::Cargo tables are a bit more sensitive, as external tools which use the data will rely on a consistent schema. breakages here wouldn't just affect articles on the wiki, it could also break any external tooling that uses the cargo data. on that basis cargo tables are something I'd be fairly reluctant to un-protect [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:45, 20 May 2026 (UTC)		::::Cargo tables are a bit more sensitive, as external tools which use the data will rely on a consistent schema. breakages here wouldn't just affect articles on the wiki, it could also break any external tooling that uses the cargo data. on that basis cargo tables are something I'd be fairly reluctant to un-protect [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:45, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
			:::::I see. I got an idea, I may be able to wrap the cargo template in a different template. [[Template:IncidentCargo]] may be the easiest, as it doesn't render anything. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 16:07, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
	:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.		:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.
	:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)		:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

Keith: /* Editing templates, protected pages, deleting irrelevant articles */ Reply

2026-05-20T15:45:44Z

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	::At the moment it's limited to Superconfirmed and above. Given the quality of @[[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]]'s contributions, I'd be happy to give them Superconfirmed. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 20:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)		::At the moment it's limited to Superconfirmed and above. Given the quality of @[[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]]'s contributions, I'd be happy to give them Superconfirmed. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 20:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
	:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
			::::Cargo tables are a bit more sensitive, as external tools which use the data will rely on a consistent schema. breakages here wouldn't just affect articles on the wiki, it could also break any external tooling that uses the cargo data. on that basis cargo tables are something I'd be fairly reluctant to un-protect [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:45, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
	:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.		:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.
	:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)		:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

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	:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
	::::Cargo tables are a bit more sensitive, as external tools which use the data will rely on a consistent schema. breakages here wouldn't just affect articles on the wiki, it could also break any external tooling that uses the cargo data. on that basis cargo tables are something I'd be fairly reluctant to un-protect [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:45, 20 May 2026 (UTC)		::::Cargo tables are a bit more sensitive, as external tools which use the data will rely on a consistent schema. breakages here wouldn't just affect articles on the wiki, it could also break any external tooling that uses the cargo data. on that basis cargo tables are something I'd be fairly reluctant to un-protect [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:45, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
			:::::I see. I got an idea, I may be able to wrap the cargo template in a different template. [[Template:IncidentCargo]] may be the easiest, as it doesn't render anything. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 16:07, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
	:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.		:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.
	:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)		:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

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	::At the moment it's limited to Superconfirmed and above. Given the quality of @[[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]]'s contributions, I'd be happy to give them Superconfirmed. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 20:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)		::At the moment it's limited to Superconfirmed and above. Given the quality of @[[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]]'s contributions, I'd be happy to give them Superconfirmed. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 20:40, 17 May 2026 (UTC)
	:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)		:::Cargo templates are still fully protected, so I cannot edit them. Please see [[Special:ProtectedPages]], it may be reasonable to change most of these (especially templates) to semi-protected. [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 15:34, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
			::::Cargo tables are a bit more sensitive, as external tools which use the data will rely on a consistent schema. breakages here wouldn't just affect articles on the wiki, it could also break any external tooling that uses the cargo data. on that basis cargo tables are something I'd be fairly reluctant to un-protect [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:45, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
	:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.		:Regarding edit access to the consumer tools page or any template used on the front page, additional inclusions like consumer tools are generally confirmed by staff to prevent the potential for promoting a service or product that doesn’t align with our goals.
	:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)		:Also while we have you here, creating country articles like [[Poland]] isn’t within our scope, as a country category can contain the necessary information such as their incidents and laws while linking back to the country's Wikipedia page. For that, having categories such as [[:Category:Canadian incidents]] and [[:Category:Canadian legislation]] in the Canada category would be best practice. Let me know if you have any questions! [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 13:05, 17 May 2026 (UTC)

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	::[[European Union#Stop Destroying Videogames (ECI)]] excerpts smaller parts of [[SKG]] (2nd argument (section), <code>paragraphs=</code> and <code>hat=no</code> in use). [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 11:41, 20 May 2026 (UTC)		::[[European Union#Stop Destroying Videogames (ECI)]] excerpts smaller parts of [[SKG]] (2nd argument (section), <code>paragraphs=</code> and <code>hat=no</code> in use). [[User:Tracerneo\|Tracerneo]] ([[User talk:Tracerneo\|talk]]) 11:41, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

	== Fake DMCA takedown ==		==Fake DMCA takedown==

	This page was edited with "DMCA takedown" as reason by a user that was just created: https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Model_F_Labs&action=history If you see the nature of the edits, it seems rather likely this was done in an attempt to remove critique. [[User:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|NonPassivatedMOSFET]] ([[User talk:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|talk]]) 20:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		This page was edited with "DMCA takedown" as reason by a user that was just created: https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Model_F_Labs&action=history If you see the nature of the edits, it seems rather likely this was done in an attempt to remove critique. [[User:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|NonPassivatedMOSFET]] ([[User talk:NonPassivatedMOSFET\|talk]]) 20:32, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

	== Page resurrection request ==		==Page resurrection request==

	Last year there was an argument on whether some community toxicity cases and management issues at the Wikipedia platform fall within the scope of this wiki or not.		Last year there was an argument on whether some community toxicity cases and management issues at the Wikipedia platform fall within the scope of this wiki or not.
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	Recently there's some developments that can finally settle the case and which will fall within this wiki's scope this time around, as editors on Wikipedia are threatening a worker's strike after the WMF disbands the entire Community Tech team. Relevant links:		Recently there's some developments that can finally settle the case and which will fall within this wiki's scope this time around, as editors on Wikipedia are threatening a worker's strike after the WMF disbands the entire Community Tech team. Relevant links:

	* https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:COMMTECHGATE		*https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:COMMTECHGATE

	* https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943		*https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-is-doing-the-capitalist-thing-56a393232943

	* https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-runs-on-people-it-shouldnt-run-over-people-48823f4238bb		*https://medium.com/@jakeorlowitz/wikipedia-runs-on-people-it-shouldnt-run-over-people-48823f4238bb

	* https://www.theverge.com/report/939442/wikipedia-editors-protest-wikimedia-layoffs-strike		*https://www.theverge.com/report/939442/wikipedia-editors-protest-wikimedia-layoffs-strike

	* https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/hundreds-of-wikipedia-editors-are-threatening-to-go-on-strike-and-the-reason-is-these-engineers/articleshow/131394771.cms		*https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/hundreds-of-wikipedia-editors-are-threatening-to-go-on-strike-and-the-reason-is-these-engineers/articleshow/131394771.cms

	* https://www.pcmag.com/news/wikipedia-editors-could-strike-following-layoffs		*https://www.pcmag.com/news/wikipedia-editors-could-strike-following-layoffs


	The page [[Wikipedia]] and/or [[Wikimedia Foundation]] are theredore requested to be resurrected. In hindsight I feel that the fussy attitude by Beanie Bo against the inclusion of Wikipedia issues into the wiki scope looks ridiculous in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/52.220.157.15\|52.220.157.15]] 22:35, 1 June 2026 (UTC)		The page [[Wikipedia]] and/or [[Wikimedia Foundation]] are theredore requested to be resurrected. In hindsight I feel that the fussy attitude by Beanie Bo against the inclusion of Wikipedia issues into the wiki scope looks ridiculous in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/52.220.157.15\|52.220.157.15]] 22:35, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

			:After reading through the links you provided, I do not see how the labor issue, although concerning, is relevant from a consumer rights perspective. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:15, 2 June 2026 (UTC)