DCS sues small YouTuber for accurate review - Revision history

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	==See also==		==See also==
	*[[Vulcan Strength]]		*[[Vulcan Strength]]
			*'''''Case Judgement —''''' [[:File: Deep Cycle Systems Pty Ltd v Fischer -2025- QDC 25.pdf]]

	==References==		==References==

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	==Australian anti-SLAPP context==		==Australian anti-SLAPP context==
	Australia has no federal anti-SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) legislation. The Australian Capital Territory's ''Protection of Public Participation Act 2008'' is the only anti-SLAPP law in any Australian jurisdiction, but section 8(2)(a) of the Act explicitly excludes defamation claims from its scope, rendering it inapplicable to cases like DCS v Fischer.<ref name="pppa">{{Cite web \|title=Protection of Public Participation Act 2008 - Section 8 \|url=https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/consol_act/poppa2008360/s8.html \|website=AustLII \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref><ref name="obrien">{{Cite web \|title=SLAPP Legislation \|url=https://obriensolicitors.com.au/slapp-legislation/ \|website=O'Brien Solicitors \|date=Dec 2024 \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref>		Australia has no federal anti-SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) legislation. The Australian Capital Territory's ''Protection of Public Participation Act 2008'' is the only anti-SLAPP law in any Australian jurisdiction, but section 8(2)(a) of the Act explicitly excludes defamation claims from its scope, rendering it inapplicable to cases like ''DCS v Fischer''.<ref name="pppa">{{Cite web \|title=Protection of Public Participation Act 2008 - Section 8 \|url=https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/act/consol_act/poppa2008360/s8.html \|website=AustLII \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref><ref name="obrien">{{Cite web \|title=SLAPP Legislation \|url=https://obriensolicitors.com.au/slapp-legislation/ \|website=O'Brien Solicitors \|date=Dec 2024 \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref>

	In October 2024, 85 organizations including the Human Rights Law Centre & Australian Conservation Foundation wrote to Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus calling for federal anti-SLAPP laws.<ref name="hrlc">{{Cite web \|title=Anti-SLAPP Laws \|url=https://www.hrlc.org.au/news/2024-10-31-anti-slapp-laws/ \|website=Human Rights Law Centre \|date=31 Oct 2024 \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref> The HRLC's December 2024 report ''Stop the SLAPP'' recommended all Australian governments enact anti-SLAPP legislation.<ref name="hrlc-report">{{Cite web \|title=Stop the SLAPP: Protecting Free Speech in Australia \|url=https://www.hrlc.org.au/reports/2024-12-5-stop-the-slapp/ \|website=Human Rights Law Centre \|date=5 Dec 2024 \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref> No federal anti-SLAPP bill has been introduced in the Australian Parliament as of March 2026.		In October 2024, 85 organizations including the Human Rights Law Centre and Australian Conservation Foundation wrote to Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus calling for federal anti-SLAPP laws.<ref name="hrlc">{{Cite web \|title=Anti-SLAPP Laws \|url=https://www.hrlc.org.au/news/2024-10-31-anti-slapp-laws/ \|website=Human Rights Law Centre \|date=31 Oct 2024 \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref> The HRLC's December 2024 report ''Stop the SLAPP'' recommended all Australian governments enact anti-SLAPP legislation.<ref name="hrlc-report">{{Cite web \|title=Stop the SLAPP: Protecting Free Speech in Australia \|url=https://www.hrlc.org.au/reports/2024-12-5-stop-the-slapp/ \|website=Human Rights Law Centre \|date=5 Dec 2024 \|access-date=28 Mar 2026}}</ref> No federal anti-SLAPP bill has been introduced in the Australian Parliament as of March 2026.

	The DCS case joins a pattern of Australian corporations using defamation law to target critics. Previous examples include the Gunns 20 case, where Tasmanian timber company Gunns Ltd sued 20 environmentalists, & the Greenpeace vs AGL dispute over criticism of AGL's environmental practices.<ref name="obrien" />		The DCS case joins a pattern of Australian corporations using defamation law to target critics. Previous examples include the Gunns 20 case, where Tasmanian timber company Gunns Ltd sued 20 environmentalists, and the Greenpeace vs AGL dispute over criticism of AGL's environmental practices.<ref name="obrien" />

	==See also==		==See also==

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	Despite the court ordering DCS to pay Fischer's legal costs ("standard costs"), DCS refused to pay. Fischer's legal team advised that "standard costs" would likely cover only a portion of his actual expenses.<ref name="gofundme-update9">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=22 May 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 9 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>		Despite the court ordering DCS to pay Fischer's legal costs ("standard costs"), DCS refused to pay. Fischer's legal team advised that "standard costs" would likely cover only a portion of his actual expenses.<ref name="gofundme-update9">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=22 May 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 9 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>

	Fischer hired a cost assessor after DCS failed to comply with the costs order.<ref name="gofundme-update10">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=17 Jun 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 10 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref> Fischer served a statutory demand on DCS, which they ignored. His legal costs exceeded the $120,000 his supporters raised, & the next step is a Federal Court winding-up application to appoint a liquidator & force recovery of the judgment debt.<ref name="gofundme" />		Fischer hired a cost assessor after DCS failed to comply with the costs order.<ref name="gofundme-update10">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=17 Jun 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 10 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref> Fischer served a statutory demand on DCS, which they ignored. His legal costs exceeded the $120,000 his supporters raised, and the next step is a Federal Court winding-up application to appoint a liquidator and force recovery of the judgment debt.<ref name="gofundme" />

	In a YouTube comment posted 20 November 2025 on a video about [[Vulcan Strength]]'s lawsuit against YouTube reviewer Gluck's Gym, AllOffroad 4x4 stated that efforts to recoup costs were still ongoing.<ref>{{Cite web \|author=@Alloffroadau \|title=Vulcan Strength sues youtube reviewer over a bad review. Stop doing this... \|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk&lc=Ugx_aI7lzrYy0qyRC0d4AaABAg \|website=[[YouTube]] \|date=20 November 2025 \|access-date=21 November 2025 \|url-status=live \|quote=Thank you for standing up for honest reviews on YouTube, your videos have helped me a lot with my court case agains DCS (we still chasing cost) <!-- Quote copied exactly as it appeared. -Sojourna --> \|archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk \|archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>		In a YouTube comment posted 20 November 2025 on a video about [[Vulcan Strength]]'s lawsuit against YouTube reviewer Gluck's Gym, AllOffroad 4x4 stated that efforts to recoup costs were still ongoing.<ref>{{Cite web \|author=@Alloffroadau \|title=Vulcan Strength sues youtube reviewer over a bad review. Stop doing this... \|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk&lc=Ugx_aI7lzrYy0qyRC0d4AaABAg \|website=[[YouTube]] \|date=20 November 2025 \|access-date=21 November 2025 \|url-status=live \|quote=Thank you for standing up for honest reviews on YouTube, your videos have helped me a lot with my court case agains DCS (we still chasing cost) <!-- Quote copied exactly as it appeared. -Sojourna --> \|archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk \|archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>

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Louis: rewrote from scratch basically. added the actual court judgment as primary source, explained the excluded corporation ruling, added anti-slapp context, sourced the rossmann quotes, replaced the unsourced community response fluff with specific details (gofundme numbers, eevblog coverage, dcs facebook takedown). fixed the director name, added dcs's own response statement, cost recovery timeline with statutory demand details

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rewrote from scratch basically. added the actual court judgment as primary source, explained the excluded corporation ruling, added anti-slapp context, sourced the rossmann quotes, replaced the unsourced community response fluff with specific details (gofundme numbers, eevblog coverage, dcs facebook takedown). fixed the director name, added dcs's own response statement, cost recovery timeline with statutory demand details

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	**This change effectively weakened consumer protections while falsely maintaining that the warranty terms had remained unchanged.		**This change effectively weakened consumer protections while falsely maintaining that the warranty terms had remained unchanged.

	[[File:~~Horrible dcs~~ battery.png\|thumb\|DCS battery capacity vs. other brands: DCS ranks worst by large margin, reiterating Stefan's skepticism about the quality of the products DCS provides with regards to longevity and capacity.<ref name=":1">{{Cite web \|author=ARENA \|title=Public Report 12 (Final Report) - Lithium-ion Battery Testing \|url=https://arena.gov.au/assets/2018/05/lithium-ion-battery-testing-public-report-12.pdf \|website=ARENA \|date=Mar 2022 \|access-date=8 Oct 2025 \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230428135852/https://arena.gov.au/assets/2018/05/lithium-ion-battery-testing-public-report-12.pdf \|archive-date=28 Apr 2023 \|format=pdf}}</ref>]]		[[File:DCS battery poor performance.png\|thumb\|DCS battery capacity vs. other brands: DCS ranks worst by large margin, reiterating Stefan's skepticism about the quality of the products DCS provides with regards to longevity and capacity.<ref name=":1">{{Cite web \|author=ARENA \|title=Public Report 12 (Final Report) - Lithium-ion Battery Testing \|url=https://arena.gov.au/assets/2018/05/lithium-ion-battery-testing-public-report-12.pdf \|website=ARENA \|date=Mar 2022 \|access-date=8 Oct 2025 \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230428135852/https://arena.gov.au/assets/2018/05/lithium-ion-battery-testing-public-report-12.pdf \|archive-date=28 Apr 2023 \|format=pdf}}</ref>]]

	*'''Australian government testing:''' Independent government testing conducted by Australia's Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) found that DCS' battery performed worse than every other battery tested by a large margin.<ref name=":1" /> The Phase 3 Capacity Test Results (Section 6.3, page 28) revealed that this battery performed worse than every battery in the test, validating Fischer's concerns about the battery's real-world reliability.		*'''Australian government testing:''' Independent government testing conducted by Australia's Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) found that DCS' battery performed worse than every other battery tested by a large margin.<ref name=":1" /> The Phase 3 Capacity Test Results (Section 6.3, page 28) revealed that this battery performed worse than every battery in the test, validating Fischer's concerns about the battery's real-world reliability.

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	===AllOffroad 4×4 Adventures TV===		===AllOffroad 4×4 Adventures TV===
	Stefan Fischer, the creator behind AllOffroad 4×4 Adventures TV, has long been a trusted voice among off-road enthusiasts. With a modest but dedicated following, Fischer performed several reviews of DCS batteries after receiving them for testing. His videos documented the performance and issues with capacity fade, as well as discrepancies in the product warranty. Fischer's review was straightforward and based on extensive, real-world testing—qualities that earned him support from his audience and notable figures in the independent review community.<ref>{{Cite web \|author= \|title=DCS sues Small YouTuber for accurate product review showing battery issues & misleading warranty \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1eauntj/dcs_sues_small_youtuber_for_accurate_product/ \|website=[[Reddit]] \|date=24 Jul 2024 \|access-date=8 Oct 2025 \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://archive.is/~~CLwPi~~ \|archive-date=~~8 Oct 2025~~}}</ref>		Stefan Fischer, the creator behind AllOffroad 4×4 Adventures TV, has long been a trusted voice among off-road enthusiasts. With a modest but dedicated following, Fischer performed several reviews of DCS batteries after receiving them for testing. His videos documented the performance and issues with capacity fade, as well as discrepancies in the product warranty. Fischer's review was straightforward and based on extensive, real-world testing—qualities that earned him support from his audience and notable figures in the independent review community.<ref>{{Cite web \|author= \|title=DCS sues Small YouTuber for accurate product review showing battery issues & misleading warranty \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1eauntj/dcs_sues_small_youtuber_for_accurate_product/ \|website=[[Reddit]] \|date=24 Jul 2024 \|access-date=8 Oct 2025 \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260222215224/https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1eauntj/dcs_sues_small_youtuber_for_accurate_product/ \|archive-date=22 Feb 2026}}</ref>

	===DCS review===		===DCS review===

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	===Outcome===		===Outcome===
	On 11 March 2025, the District Court of Queensland dismissed DCS' defamation claim against Stefan Fischer.<ref name=":2">{{Cite web \|author=Byrne KC DCJ \|title=Deep Cycle Systems Pty Ltd v Fischer [2025] QDC 25 \|url=https://consumerrights.wiki/images/5/57/Deep_Cycle_Systems_Pty_Ltd_v_Fischer_-2025-_QDC_25.pdf \|date=11 Mar 2025 \|access-date= \|format=pdf \|url-status=live \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250708212735/https://consumerrights.wiki/images/5/57/Deep_Cycle_Systems_Pty_Ltd_v_Fischer_-2025-_QDC_25.pdf \|archive-date=8 Jul 2025}}</ref> The court ruled that DCS is not an "excluded corporation" under Queensland law, meaning they lacked standing to sue for defamation.<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=11 Mar 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 7 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe ~~\|url-status=live~~ \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>		On 11 March 2025, the District Court of Queensland dismissed DCS' defamation claim against Stefan Fischer.<ref name=":2">{{Cite web \|author=Byrne KC DCJ \|title=Deep Cycle Systems Pty Ltd v Fischer [2025] QDC 25 \|url=https://consumerrights.wiki/images/5/57/Deep_Cycle_Systems_Pty_Ltd_v_Fischer_-2025-_QDC_25.pdf \|date=11 Mar 2025 \|access-date= \|format=pdf \|url-status=live \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250708212735/https://consumerrights.wiki/images/5/57/Deep_Cycle_Systems_Pty_Ltd_v_Fischer_-2025-_QDC_25.pdf \|archive-date=8 Jul 2025}}</ref> The court ruled that DCS is not an "excluded corporation" under Queensland law, meaning they lacked standing to sue for defamation.<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=11 Mar 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 7 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>

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	===Deep Cycle Systems refuses to pay===		===Deep Cycle Systems refuses to pay===
	On 14 April 2025, Fischer posted an update on GoFundMe that he and his legal team were pursuing extended costs due to DCS choosing to oppose the former's application for indemnity cost. Despite the mounting legal costs, Fischer stated he would continue to force the matter because he believed that the company should be held accountable for its actions.<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=14 Apr 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 8 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe ~~\|url-status=live~~ \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>		On 14 April 2025, Fischer posted an update on GoFundMe that he and his legal team were pursuing extended costs due to DCS choosing to oppose the former's application for indemnity cost. Despite the mounting legal costs, Fischer stated he would continue to force the matter because he believed that the company should be held accountable for its actions.<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=14 Apr 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 8 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>

	In another update posted on 22 May 2025, Fischer posted that the judge had ordered DCS to pay his legal costs. Due to the term "standard costs" being used in that order, his legal team advised that it would likely mean Fischer would only recover a portion of his actual legal expenses.<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=22 May 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 9 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe ~~\|url-status=live~~ \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>		In another update posted on 22 May 2025, Fischer posted that the judge had ordered DCS to pay his legal costs. Due to the term "standard costs" being used in that order, his legal team advised that it would likely mean Fischer would only recover a portion of his actual legal expenses.<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=22 May 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 9 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>

	As of 17 June 2025 on GoFundMe, Fischer said that DCS still had not paid the required costs as ordered by the judge and that as a result, a cost assessor was hired. He would be pursuing recovery for those extra costs as well. Fischer went on to further state that if DCS still refused to pay after the assessment, that the company would be taken to court again and "may proceed to wind up the company if necessary."<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=17 Jun 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 10 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe ~~\|url-status=live~~ \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>		As of 17 June 2025 on GoFundMe, Fischer said that DCS still had not paid the required costs as ordered by the judge and that as a result, a cost assessor was hired. He would be pursuing recovery for those extra costs as well. Fischer went on to further state that if DCS still refused to pay after the assessment, that the company would be taken to court again and "may proceed to wind up the company if necessary."<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=17 Jun 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 10 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=10 Oct 2025 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>

	In a [[YouTube]] comment posted 20 November 2025 on Louis Rossmann's video regarding [[Vulcan Strength]]'s lawsuit against YouTube reviewer Gluck's Gym, AllOffroad 4x4 stated that efforts to recoup costs were still ongoing.<ref>{{Cite web \|author=@Alloffroadau \|title=Vulcan Strength sues youtube reviewer over a bad review. Stop doing this... \|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk&lc=Ugx_aI7lzrYy0qyRC0d4AaABAg \|website=[[YouTube]] \|date=20 November 2025 \|access-date=21 November 2025 \|url-status=live \|quote=Thank you for standing up for honest reviews on YouTube, your videos have helped me a lot with my court case agains DCS (we still chasing cost) <!-- Quote copied exactly as it appeared. -Sojourna --> ~~\|url-status=live~~ \|archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk \|archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>		In a [[YouTube]] comment posted 20 November 2025 on Louis Rossmann's video regarding [[Vulcan Strength]]'s lawsuit against YouTube reviewer Gluck's Gym, AllOffroad 4x4 stated that efforts to recoup costs were still ongoing.<ref>{{Cite web \|author=@Alloffroadau \|title=Vulcan Strength sues youtube reviewer over a bad review. Stop doing this... \|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk&lc=Ugx_aI7lzrYy0qyRC0d4AaABAg \|website=[[YouTube]] \|date=20 November 2025 \|access-date=21 November 2025 \|url-status=live \|quote=Thank you for standing up for honest reviews on YouTube, your videos have helped me a lot with my court case agains DCS (we still chasing cost) <!-- Quote copied exactly as it appeared. -Sojourna --> \|archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk \|archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>

	==Community and industry response==		==Community and industry response==

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	Despite the court ordering DCS to pay Fischer's legal costs ("standard costs"), DCS refused to pay. Fischer's legal team advised that "standard costs" would likely cover only a portion of his actual expenses.<ref name="gofundme-update9">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=22 May 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 9 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>		Despite the court ordering DCS to pay Fischer's legal costs ("standard costs"), DCS refused to pay. Fischer's legal team advised that "standard costs" would likely cover only a portion of his actual expenses.<ref name="gofundme-update9">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=22 May 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 9 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref>

	Fischer hired a cost assessor after DCS failed to comply with the costs order.<ref name="gofundme-update10">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=17 Jun 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 10 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref> Fischer served a statutory demand on DCS, which they ignored. His legal costs exceeded the $120,000 his supporters raised, & the next step is a Federal Court winding-up application to appoint a liquidator & force recovery of the judgment debt.<ref name="gofundme" />		Fischer hired a cost assessor after DCS failed to comply with the costs order.<ref name="gofundme-update10">{{Cite web \|last=Fischer \|first=Stefan \|date=17 Jun 2025 \|title=Help Fight for Truth in YouTube Reviews Fundraiser Update 10 \|url=https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|url-status=live \|access-date=28 Mar 2026 \|website=GoFundMe \|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251102145025/https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-fight-for-truth-in-youtube-reviews \|archive-date=2 Nov 2025}}</ref> Fischer served a statutory demand on DCS, which they ignored. His legal costs exceeded the $120,000 his supporters raised, and the next step is a Federal Court winding-up application to appoint a liquidator and force recovery of the judgment debt.<ref name="gofundme" />

	In a YouTube comment posted 20 November 2025 on a video about [[Vulcan Strength]]'s lawsuit against YouTube reviewer Gluck's Gym, AllOffroad 4x4 stated that efforts to recoup costs were still ongoing.<ref>{{Cite web \|author=@Alloffroadau \|title=Vulcan Strength sues youtube reviewer over a bad review. Stop doing this... \|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk&lc=Ugx_aI7lzrYy0qyRC0d4AaABAg \|website=[[YouTube]] \|date=20 November 2025 \|access-date=21 November 2025 \|url-status=live \|quote=Thank you for standing up for honest reviews on YouTube, your videos have helped me a lot with my court case agains DCS (we still chasing cost) <!-- Quote copied exactly as it appeared. -Sojourna --> \|archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk \|archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>		In a YouTube comment posted 20 November 2025 on a video about [[Vulcan Strength]]'s lawsuit against YouTube reviewer Gluck's Gym, AllOffroad 4x4 stated that efforts to recoup costs were still ongoing.<ref>{{Cite web \|author=@Alloffroadau \|title=Vulcan Strength sues youtube reviewer over a bad review. Stop doing this... \|url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk&lc=Ugx_aI7lzrYy0qyRC0d4AaABAg \|website=[[YouTube]] \|date=20 November 2025 \|access-date=21 November 2025 \|url-status=live \|quote=Thank you for standing up for honest reviews on YouTube, your videos have helped me a lot with my court case agains DCS (we still chasing cost) <!-- Quote copied exactly as it appeared. -Sojourna --> \|archive-url=https://preservetube.com/watch?v=L6QFgC9TLUk \|archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>