Gun Safe Widespread Deceptive Advertising - Revision history

Mr Pollo at 20:46, 5 March 2026

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	The existence of a "rating" or "standard" does not guarantee a product's performance. The Titanic's lifeboats were "to regulation", yet ~1,500 people still lost their lives. It is up to the consumer to understand what a product's claim actually means, and how that affects the attributes the consumer wants for a product.		The existence of a "rating" or "standard" does not guarantee a product's performance. The Titanic's lifeboats were "to regulation", yet ~1,500 people still lost their lives. It is up to the consumer to understand what a product's claim actually means, and how that affects the attributes the consumer wants for a product.

			== Companies Affected ==

			* Liberty Safe
			* Cannon Safe
			* Browning Safes
			* American Security
			* Winchester Safes
			* Remington ''(is it just Remington? Can not find a website that is not a brand licensee)''
			* Stack-On
			* Cabela's

	==[Incident]==		==[Incident]==
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	*Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?		*Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?

	== Key Takeaway ==		==Key Takeaway==
	Industry-wide advertising practices mislead the consumer into thinking safes perform better than they actually do.		Industry-wide advertising practices mislead the consumer into thinking safes perform better than they actually do.

	==Further Reading==		==Further Reading==
	~~The original author of the article above recommends the following~~ web-guide ~~for more thorough reading into the above article's subject matter (~~physical asset security ~~through theft protection, fire protection, information security, home hardening, common myths, etc.)~~:		Safe comparison guide/web-guide on physical asset security:

	*([https://gunsafereviewsguy.com Honest Gun Safe Reviews])		*[https://gunsafereviewsguy.com Honest Gun Safe Reviews]

PsychoBreak: Minor edits to all sections

2026-02-06T18:42:40Z

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	\|Type=Deceptive Advertising		\|Type=Deceptive Advertising
	\|Description="Safes" are not real safes, self-certification, deceptive language, performative security features, exaggerating capacity by technicality, etc.		\|Description="Safes" are not real safes, self-certification, deceptive language, performative security features, exaggerating capacity by technicality, etc.
	}}Products ~~usually~~ referred to as "gun safes" are usually not ~~real~~ safes<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul687ed152011?utm_source=chatgpt.com</ref>, but "residential security containers" (~~Standard~~ UL 1037).<ref>https://~~gunsafereviewsguy~~.~~com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref><ref>https://web.archive~~.org/~~web/20151029154039/http:~~/~~/ulstandards.~~ul~~.com/standard~~/~~?id=1037~~</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.		}}Products referred to as "gun safes" are usually not "true safes" (UL 687)<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul687ed152011?utm_source=chatgpt.com</ref>, but "residential security containers" (UL 1037).<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul1037ed2016</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref> This misleading language is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.

	==Background==		==Background==
	{{Ph-I-B}}Underwriter's Laboratories certifications available include (in ascending order of security levels): UL RSC Level I, UL RSC Level II, UL TL-15, UL TL-30, and UL TL-30x6. TLTR-variant ratings are also available. UL testing involves one or more people using specific sets of tools to gain physical access to a safe in a certain amount of time.		{{Ph-I-B}}Underwriter's Laboratories certifications available include (in ascending order of security levels): UL RSC Level I, UL RSC Level II, UL TL-15, UL TL-30, and UL TL-30x6. TLTR-variant ratings are also available. UL testing involves one or more people using specific sets of tools to gain physical access to a safe in a certain amount of time.<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151029154039/http://ulstandards.ul.com/standard/?id=1037</ref>

	Other security ratings may be seen on products such as AmSec's B-Class and C-Class<ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/</ref>. AmSec claims the standards are set by the "insurance industry" but does not provide links to any published documentation that the consumer could use to verify what B-Class and C-Class actually mean. Additionally, unknown security ratings could be based on factors that do not have bearing in real-life scenarios that the consumer expects their product to perform. (Example: AmSec's product NARCO3824 is B-Class and the product description uses phrases like "it’s extremely difficult to break in or tamper with". However, NARCO3824 is 11 gauge steel which can be cut with handheld tools.<ref>https://youtu.be/NEeS5nCh5e8?si=OZs1R56HNGLp1T5S&t=195</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54&t=134s</ref>)		Other security ratings may be seen on products such as AmSec's B-Class and C-Class<ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/</ref>. AmSec claims the standards are set by the "insurance industry" but does not provide links to any published documentation that the consumer could use to verify what B-Class and C-Class actually mean. Additionally, unknown security ratings could be based on factors that do not have bearing in real-life scenarios that the consumer expects their product to perform. (Example: AmSec's product NARCO3824 is B-Class and the product description uses phrases like "it’s extremely difficult to break in or tamper with". However, NARCO3824 is 11 gauge steel which can be cut with handheld tools.<ref>https://youtu.be/NEeS5nCh5e8?si=OZs1R56HNGLp1T5S&t=195</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54&t=134s</ref>)
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	*Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)		*Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)
	*Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg</ref>		*Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage, fancy descriptions of bad locks)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg</ref>
	*Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)		*Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)
	*Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)		*Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)
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	*Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?		*Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?

	== ~~Further Reading~~ ==		== Key Takeaway ==
	~~The original author of this article recommends this web~~-~~guide for tips on gun~~ safes ~~including theft protection, fire protection, information security, home hardening, and common myths~~.		Industry-wide advertising practices mislead the consumer into thinking safes perform better than they actually do.

	* ([https://gunsafereviewsguy.com Honest Gun Safe Reviews])		==Further Reading==
			The original author of the article above recommends the following web-guide for more thorough reading into the above article's subject matter (physical asset security through theft protection, fire protection, information security, home hardening, common myths, etc.):

			*([https://gunsafereviewsguy.com Honest Gun Safe Reviews])


	Videos of people breaking into safes:		Videos of people breaking into safes:

	* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmnG9R9S_k		*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmnG9R9S_k
	* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI		*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI


	Related consumerrights.wiki articles:		Related consumerrights.wiki articles:

	* [[Liberty Safe]]		*[[Liberty Safe]]
	* [[Ring]]		*[[Ring]]

	==References==		==References==
	{{reflist}}<ref name=":0" />{{Ph-I-C}}		{{reflist}}<ref name=":0" />{{Ph-I-C}}
	<references />		<references />

PsychoBreak: Expanded Background and Furhter Reading sections

2026-02-06T18:20:59Z

Expanded Background and Furhter Reading sections

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	\|Type=Deceptive Advertising		\|Type=Deceptive Advertising
	\|Description="Safes" are not real safes, self-certification, deceptive language, performative security features, exaggerating capacity by technicality, etc.		\|Description="Safes" are not real safes, self-certification, deceptive language, performative security features, exaggerating capacity by technicality, etc.
	}}		}}Products usually referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul687ed152011?utm_source=chatgpt.com</ref>, but "residential security containers" (Standard UL 1037).<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151029154039/http://ulstandards.ul.com/standard/?id=1037</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.
	~~{{Ph-I-Int~~}}Products usually referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes, but "residential security containers".<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification~~</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/~~</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.

	==Background==		==Background==
	{{Ph-I-B}}		{{Ph-I-B}}Underwriter's Laboratories certifications available include (in ascending order of security levels): UL RSC Level I, UL RSC Level II, UL TL-15, UL TL-30, and UL TL-30x6. TLTR-variant ratings are also available. UL testing involves one or more people using specific sets of tools to gain physical access to a safe in a certain amount of time.

			Other security ratings may be seen on products such as AmSec's B-Class and C-Class<ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/</ref>. AmSec claims the standards are set by the "insurance industry" but does not provide links to any published documentation that the consumer could use to verify what B-Class and C-Class actually mean. Additionally, unknown security ratings could be based on factors that do not have bearing in real-life scenarios that the consumer expects their product to perform. (Example: AmSec's product NARCO3824 is B-Class and the product description uses phrases like "it’s extremely difficult to break in or tamper with". However, NARCO3824 is 11 gauge steel which can be cut with handheld tools.<ref>https://youtu.be/NEeS5nCh5e8?si=OZs1R56HNGLp1T5S&t=195</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54&t=134s</ref>)

			The existence of a "rating" or "standard" does not guarantee a product's performance. The Titanic's lifeboats were "to regulation", yet ~1,500 people still lost their lives. It is up to the consumer to understand what a product's claim actually means, and how that affects the attributes the consumer wants for a product.

	==[Incident]==		==[Incident]==
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	ToDo:		ToDo:

	* Embed side-by-side snapshots? (snapshot the fire-rating of a product from the company's website, next to a picture of that safe with rusted-out guns inside from surviving a fire)		*Embed side-by-side snapshots? (snapshot the fire-rating of a product from the company's website, next to a picture of that safe with rusted-out guns inside from surviving a fire)
	* Link to the Liberty Safe article on consumerrights.wiki		*Link to the Liberty Safe article on consumerrights.wiki
	* Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?		*Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?

			== Further Reading ==
			The original author of this article recommends this web-guide for tips on gun safes including theft protection, fire protection, information security, home hardening, and common myths.

			* ([https://gunsafereviewsguy.com Honest Gun Safe Reviews])


			Videos of people breaking into safes:

			* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmnG9R9S_k
			* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI


			Related consumerrights.wiki articles:

			* [[Liberty Safe]]
			* [[Ring]]

	==References==		==References==
	{{reflist}}<ref name=":0" />{{Ph-I-C}}		{{reflist}}<ref name=":0" />{{Ph-I-C}}
	<references />		<references />

PsychoBreak: Remove irrelevant pre-populated sections. Improve summary wording. Add to-do list plan for future edits.

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Remove irrelevant pre-populated sections. Improve summary wording. Add to-do list plan for future edits.

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	{{Ph-I-Int}}Products ~~widely~~ referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes, but "residential security containers".<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices ~~widely~~ used in the residential gun safe industry.		{{Ph-I-Int}}Products usually referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes, but "residential security containers".<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.

	==Background==		==Background==
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	{{Ph-I-I}}Incidents to expand on:		{{Ph-I-I}}Incidents to expand on:

	* Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)		*Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)
	* Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg</ref>		*Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg</ref>
	* Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)		*Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)
	* Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)		*Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)
	* Deceptive gun # capacity		*Deceptive gun # capacity
	* Detrimental or poor features presented as positives (door handle location, gauge thickness) <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI</ref>		*Detrimental or poor features presented as positives (door handle location, gauge thickness) <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI</ref>
	* Containers with security so poor that it cannot withstand a theft attack from a child (amazon desk safes)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE</ref>		*Containers with security so poor that it cannot withstand a theft attack from a child (amazon desk safes)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE</ref><br />
			ToDo:

	~~===[Company]'s response===~~		* Embed side-by-side snapshots? (snapshot the fire-rating of a product from the company's website, next to a picture of that safe with rusted-out guns inside from surviving a fire)
	~~{{Ph~~-I-~~ComR}}~~		* Link to the Liberty Safe article on consumerrights.wiki
			* Create a guide about how to navigate the above incidents?

	~~==Lawsuit==~~
	~~{{Ph~~-I-~~L}}~~


	~~==Consumer response==~~
	~~{{Ph-I-ConR}}~~


	==References==		==References==
	{{reflist}}<ref name=":0" />{{Ph-I-C}}		{{reflist}}<ref name=":0" />{{Ph-I-C}}
			<references />

PsychoBreak: Started the page. Bullet point list of incidents that need to be expanded upon.

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Started the page. Bullet point list of incidents that need to be expanded upon.

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	{{Ph-I-Int}}		{{Ph-I-Int}}Products widely referred to as "gun safes" are usually not real safes, but "residential security containers".<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref> This is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices widely used in the residential gun safe industry.

	==Background==		==Background==
	{{Ph-I-B}}		{{Ph-I-B}}

	==[Incident]==		==[Incident]==
	{{Ph-I-I}}		{{Ph-I-I}}Incidents to expand on:

			* Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)
			* Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg</ref>
			* Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)
			* Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)
			* Deceptive gun # capacity
			* Detrimental or poor features presented as positives (door handle location, gauge thickness) <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI</ref>
			* Containers with security so poor that it cannot withstand a theft attack from a child (amazon desk safes)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE</ref>

	===[Company]'s response===		===[Company]'s response===
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	==References==		==References==
	{{reflist}}		{{reflist}}<ref name=":0" />{{Ph-I-C}}

	{{Ph-I-C}}

PsychoBreak: Gun safes have industry-wide obfuscation of product's effectiveness.

2026-02-05T02:53:06Z

Gun safes have industry-wide obfuscation of product's effectiveness.

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|Company=Liberty Safe, Winchester, Browning, Tractor Supply, Cannon, Remington
|Status=Active
|Product=Safes, Home Safes, Gun Safes, Residential Security Containers
|ArticleType=Product
|Type=Deceptive Advertising
|Description="Safes" are not real safes, self-certification, deceptive language, performative security features, exaggerating capacity by technicality, etc.
}}
{{Ph-I-Int}}
==Background==
{{Ph-I-B}}

==[Incident]==
{{Ph-I-I}}

===[Company]'s response===
{{Ph-I-ComR}}

==Lawsuit==
{{Ph-I-L}}

==Consumer response==
{{Ph-I-ConR}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

{{Ph-I-C}}

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	}}Products referred to as "gun safes" are usually not "true safes" (UL 687)<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul687ed152011?utm_source=chatgpt.com</ref>, but "residential security containers" (UL 1037).<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul1037ed2016</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification</ref> This misleading language is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.		}}Products referred to as "gun safes" are usually not "true safes" (UL 687)<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul687ed152011?utm_source=chatgpt.com</ref>, but "residential security containers" (UL 1037).<ref>https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/ul/ul1037ed2016</ref> The distinction comes from the certification/rating system established by Underwriter’s Laboratories, an independent testing company.<ref name=":0">https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification ([http://web.archive.org/web/20260101184850/https://www.ul.com/services/anti-theft-device-testing-and-certification Archived])</ref> This misleading language is just one of the multiple deceptive advertising practices used in the residential gun safe industry.

	==Background==		==Background==
	{{Ph-I-B}}Underwriter's Laboratories certifications available include (in ascending order of security levels): UL RSC Level I, UL RSC Level II, UL TL-15, UL TL-30, and UL TL-30x6. TLTR-variant ratings are also available. UL testing involves one or more people using specific sets of tools to gain physical access to a safe in a certain amount of time.<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151029154039/http://ulstandards.ul.com/standard/?id=1037</ref>		{{Ph-I-B}}Underwriter's Laboratories certifications available include (in ascending order of security levels): UL RSC Level I, UL RSC Level II, UL TL-15, UL TL-30, and UL TL-30x6. TLTR-variant ratings are also available. UL testing involves one or more people using specific sets of tools to gain physical access to a safe in a certain amount of time.<ref>https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/#security-ratings ([http://web.archive.org/web/20251117223603/https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/articles/myths-about-gun-safe-theft-protection/2/ Archived])</ref><ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/ ([http://web.archive.org/web/20251107123252/https://americansecuritysafes.com/testing-process-for-ul-rated-safes/ Archived])</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20151029154039/http://ulstandards.ul.com/standard/?id=1037</ref>

	Other security ratings may be seen on products such as AmSec's B-Class and C-Class<ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/</ref>. AmSec claims the standards are set by the "insurance industry" but does not provide links to any published documentation that the consumer could use to verify what B-Class and C-Class actually mean. Additionally, unknown security ratings could be based on factors that do not have bearing in real-life scenarios that the consumer expects their product to perform. (Example: AmSec's product NARCO3824 is B-Class and the product description uses phrases like "it’s extremely difficult to break in or tamper with". However, NARCO3824 is 11 gauge steel which can be cut with handheld tools.<ref>https://youtu.be/NEeS5nCh5e8?si=OZs1R56HNGLp1T5S&t=195</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54&t=134s</ref>)		Other security ratings may be seen on products such as AmSec's B-Class and C-Class<ref>https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/ ([http://web.archive.org/web/20251006194018/https://americansecuritysafes.com/burglary-ratings-explained/ Archived])</ref>. AmSec claims the standards are set by the "insurance industry" but does not provide links to any published documentation that the consumer could use to verify what B-Class and C-Class actually mean. Additionally, unknown security ratings could be based on factors that do not have bearing in real-life scenarios that the consumer expects their product to perform. (Example: AmSec's product NARCO3824 is B-Class and the product description uses phrases like "it’s extremely difficult to break in or tamper with". However, NARCO3824 is 11 gauge steel which can be cut with handheld tools.<ref>https://youtu.be/NEeS5nCh5e8?si=OZs1R56HNGLp1T5S&t=195 ([https://preservetube.com/watch?v=NEeS5nCh5e8 Archived])</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54&t=134s ([https://preservetube.com/watch?v=XMXa1QImM54 Archived])</ref>)

	The existence of a "rating" or "standard" does not guarantee a product's performance. The Titanic's lifeboats were "to regulation", yet ~1,500 people still lost their lives. It is up to the consumer to understand what a product's claim actually means, and how that affects the attributes the consumer wants for a product.		The existence of a "rating" or "standard" does not guarantee a product's performance. The Titanic's lifeboats were "to regulation", yet ~1,500 people still lost their lives. It is up to the consumer to understand what a product's claim actually means, and how that affects the attributes the consumer wants for a product.
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	*Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)		*Fire rating (self-certification, fire-safe does not mean heat/steam/firehose safe)
	*Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage, fancy descriptions of bad locks)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg</ref>		*Performative features (internal hinges, showy linkage, fancy descriptions of bad locks)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg ([https://preservetube.com/watch?v=Y7X8crrn0Kg Archived])</ref>
	*Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)		*Detrimental features (door gaps, handle location, electronics, moisture-absorbing material, etc.)
	*Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)		*Made in America=assembled in America which obfuscates the quality of parts (usually the locks)
	*Deceptive gun # capacity		*Deceptive gun # capacity
	*Detrimental or poor features presented as positives (door handle location, gauge thickness) <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI</ref>		*Detrimental or poor features presented as positives (door handle location, gauge thickness) <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI ([https://preservetube.com/watch?v=p_WCg0KEiyI Archived])</ref>
	*Containers with security so poor that it cannot withstand a theft attack from a child (amazon desk safes)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE</ref><br />		*Containers with security so poor that it cannot withstand a theft attack from a child (amazon desk safes)<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE ([https://preservetube.com/watch?v=gJrSWXFXvlE Archived])</ref><br />
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