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Sojourna: /* Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds */ Reply

2026-04-25T03:19:32Z

Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds: Reply

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	==Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds==		==Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds==
	Sorry i'm new to the wiki but i think the Amazon Luna page and this incident should be added to the wiki https://kotaku.com/amazons-luna-service-removing-access-to-purchased-games-and-is-offering-no-refunds-2000686688 [[Special:Contributions/146.241.168.42\|146.241.168.42]] 17:18, 10 April 2026 (UTC)		Sorry i'm new to the wiki but i think the Amazon Luna page and this incident should be added to the wiki https://kotaku.com/amazons-luna-service-removing-access-to-purchased-games-and-is-offering-no-refunds-2000686688 [[Special:Contributions/146.241.168.42\|146.241.168.42]] 17:18, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

			:Louis has since created an article page for this, see [[Amazon Luna revocation of third-party games]]. It needs some further work, but the basics are there. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 03:19, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

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2026-04-25T03:16:52Z

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146.241.168.42: /* Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds */ new section

2026-04-10T17:18:04Z

Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds: new section

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	:Apparently all of this mess was due to VC funding, see comment here: "AllTrails has raised $151m in VC funding. They need to invent features to show they are growing. The product has been "enshittified"." (see comment [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/1lb091a/lifetime_membership_downgraded/ here]). [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)		:Apparently all of this mess was due to VC funding, see comment here: "AllTrails has raised $151m in VC funding. They need to invent features to show they are growing. The product has been "enshittified"." (see comment [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/1lb091a/lifetime_membership_downgraded/ here]). [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

			== Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds ==

			Sorry i'm new to the wiki but i think the Amazon Luna page and this incident should be added to the wiki https://kotaku.com/amazons-luna-service-removing-access-to-purchased-games-and-is-offering-no-refunds-2000686688 [[Special:Contributions/146.241.168.42\|146.241.168.42]] 17:18, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

Languagedivided: /* AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users */ Reply

2026-03-20T11:29:57Z

AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users: Reply

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	:You should be able to add it yourself. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:16, 9 March 2026 (UTC)		:You should be able to add it yourself. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:16, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

	== AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users ==		==AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users==

	As per title. [https://www.alltrails.com AllTrails] at some point AllTrails was offering lifetime subscriptions that were discontinued in 2019 (see Business Response [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here]).		As per title. [https://www.alltrails.com AllTrails] at some point AllTrails was offering lifetime subscriptions that were discontinued in 2019 (see Business Response [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here]).
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	'''AllTrails Lifetime Membership''' was discontinued after 2019 (sources [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints 1], [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/1osqu5d/alltrails_decided_to_screw_over_their_lifetime/ 2], ). While some users purchased what was advertised as a "lifetime" subscription for $99.99, AllTrails has clarified that these were actually '''3-year subscriptions''', despite marketing claims. Multiple Reddit users have reported confusion and frustration after their subscriptions expired, with AllTrails support confirming the 3-year duration. Users who bought a "lifetime" subscription before 2020 may have received a 3-year membership. Some have had their access extended after contacting support, but this is not guaranteed. [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)		'''AllTrails Lifetime Membership''' was discontinued after 2019 (sources [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints 1], [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/1osqu5d/alltrails_decided_to_screw_over_their_lifetime/ 2], ). While some users purchased what was advertised as a "lifetime" subscription for $99.99, AllTrails has clarified that these were actually '''3-year subscriptions''', despite marketing claims. Multiple Reddit users have reported confusion and frustration after their subscriptions expired, with AllTrails support confirming the 3-year duration. Users who bought a "lifetime" subscription before 2020 may have received a 3-year membership. Some have had their access extended after contacting support, but this is not guaranteed. [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

			:Apparently all of this mess was due to VC funding, see comment here: "AllTrails has raised $151m in VC funding. They need to invent features to show they are growing. The product has been "enshittified"." (see comment [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/1lb091a/lifetime_membership_downgraded/ here]). [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Languagedivided: /* AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users */

2026-03-20T11:28:44Z

AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users

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	'''AllTrails Lifetime Membership''' was discontinued after 2019 (sources [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints 1], [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/1osqu5d/alltrails_decided_to_screw_over_their_lifetime/ 2], ). While some users purchased what was advertised as a "lifetime" subscription for $99.99, AllTrails has clarified that these were actually '''3-year subscriptions''', despite marketing claims. Multiple Reddit users have reported confusion and frustration after their subscriptions expired, with AllTrails support confirming the 3-year duration. Users who bought a "lifetime" subscription before 2020 may have received a 3-year membership. Some have had their access extended ~~(e.g., to 2118)~~ after contacting support, but this is not guaranteed. [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)		'''AllTrails Lifetime Membership''' was discontinued after 2019 (sources [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints 1], [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/1osqu5d/alltrails_decided_to_screw_over_their_lifetime/ 2], ). While some users purchased what was advertised as a "lifetime" subscription for $99.99, AllTrails has clarified that these were actually '''3-year subscriptions''', despite marketing claims. Multiple Reddit users have reported confusion and frustration after their subscriptions expired, with AllTrails support confirming the 3-year duration. Users who bought a "lifetime" subscription before 2020 may have received a 3-year membership. Some have had their access extended after contacting support, but this is not guaranteed. [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Languagedivided: /* AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users */ new section

2026-03-20T11:27:50Z

AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users: new section

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	:You should be able to add it yourself. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:16, 9 March 2026 (UTC)		:You should be able to add it yourself. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:16, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

			== AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users ==

			As per title. [https://www.alltrails.com AllTrails] at some point AllTrails was offering lifetime subscriptions that were discontinued in 2019 (see Business Response [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here]).

			They have also had shady marketing practices whereby users believed they were buying perpetual licenses but in reality the T&C had in its small print that these licenses were for a 3-year-plan (again, see earlier comments [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here] and [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/10r64u1/lifetime_subscription/ here] too).

			While this probably doesn't count as "evidence", I know a person who bought one of such lifetime licenses and after a few years a few devices later, they reinstalled AllTails only to find out that their license magically disappeared. They contacted their customer service who denied restoring the lifetime license at all despite all personal details of purchaser had been provided. AllTrails solicited a proof of transaction which the buyer couldn't find due to the time that lapsed. Either way, Reddit reports suggest that the best case-scenario would be offering a 3-year-plan (see comments [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/10r64u1/lifetime_subscription/ here]).

			This is a really shady company that has misled and violated consumer rights. It deserves a page to remind the public of its dark past of revoking lifetime licenses, shady selling practices, and forcing a subscription model.


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			'''AllTrails Lifetime Membership''' was discontinued after 2019 (sources [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints 1], [https://www.reddit.com/r/hiking/comments/1osqu5d/alltrails_decided_to_screw_over_their_lifetime/ 2], ). While some users purchased what was advertised as a "lifetime" subscription for $99.99, AllTrails has clarified that these were actually '''3-year subscriptions''', despite marketing claims. Multiple Reddit users have reported confusion and frustration after their subscriptions expired, with AllTrails support confirming the 3-year duration. Users who bought a "lifetime" subscription before 2020 may have received a 3-year membership. Some have had their access extended (e.g., to 2118) after contacting support, but this is not guaranteed. [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:27, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

AnotherConsumerRightsPerson: /* I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list.... */ Reply

2026-03-09T16:16:44Z

I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list....: Reply

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	:Hi there, the purpose of this page is to list all types of article suggestions. If you don’t want to start a company page even just a little bit, you can add a heading here for that for companies/organizations and add the name of the organization and why it meets the standards to be included here. If you have any issues, reply back to this and me or another staff member will help you get that added. Thanks for pointing this out. - [[User:Atsumari\|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari\|talk]]) 18:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)		:Hi there, the purpose of this page is to list all types of article suggestions. If you don’t want to start a company page even just a little bit, you can add a heading here for that for companies/organizations and add the name of the organization and why it meets the standards to be included here. If you have any issues, reply back to this and me or another staff member will help you get that added. Thanks for pointing this out. - [[User:Atsumari\|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari\|talk]]) 18:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

	== I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list.... ==		==I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list....==

	2800$ for a dj mixer? serato included with purchase? not now 300$+ OR monthly FEE to use it without NAG SCREEN/boxes		2800$ for a dj mixer? serato included with purchase? not now 300$+ OR monthly FEE to use it without NAG SCREEN/boxes
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	[[User:Tekstep01\|Tekstep01]] ([[User talk:Tekstep01\|talk]]) 07:42, 9 March 2026 (UTC)		[[User:Tekstep01\|Tekstep01]] ([[User talk:Tekstep01\|talk]]) 07:42, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

			:You should be able to add it yourself. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:16, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Tekstep01: /* I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list.... */ new section

2026-03-09T07:42:32Z

I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list....: new section

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	:Hi there, the purpose of this page is to list all types of article suggestions. If you don’t want to start a company page even just a little bit, you can add a heading here for that for companies/organizations and add the name of the organization and why it meets the standards to be included here. If you have any issues, reply back to this and me or another staff member will help you get that added. Thanks for pointing this out. - [[User:Atsumari\|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari\|talk]]) 18:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)		:Hi there, the purpose of this page is to list all types of article suggestions. If you don’t want to start a company page even just a little bit, you can add a heading here for that for companies/organizations and add the name of the organization and why it meets the standards to be included here. If you have any issues, reply back to this and me or another staff member will help you get that added. Thanks for pointing this out. - [[User:Atsumari\|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari\|talk]]) 18:33, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

			== I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list.... ==

			2800$ for a dj mixer? serato included with purchase? not now 300$+ OR monthly FEE to use it without NAG SCREEN/boxes

			no repair options except send it in for fee.. no guides no info... i guess no one opened one up before... oh wait yeah they DCMA everyones videos on it......

			please this is straight dumb. its wrong

			[[User:Tekstep01\|Tekstep01]] ([[User talk:Tekstep01\|talk]]) 07:42, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

AnotherConsumerRightsPerson at 07:07, 5 November 2025

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	[[User:Justanuser]] ([[User talk:Justanuser]]) ~~12 August 2025~~		<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Justanuser\|Justanuser]] ([[User talk:Justanuser\|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Justanuser\|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

	Have done this here: [[Google password manager overrides third-party autofill]]. Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)		Have done this here: [[Google password manager overrides third-party autofill]]. Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

Drakeula: adding title for section that didn't have one

2025-10-11T07:37:45Z

adding title for section that didn't have one

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	(adding this here since I cannot edit the page. Happened to me personally and I have found evidence of it happening to more people)		(adding this here since I cannot edit the page. Happened to me personally and I have found evidence of it happening to more people)
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	https://www.techlicious.com/blog/update-this-setting-to-keep-1password-working-in-android-chrome/?utm_source=chatgpt.com		https://www.techlicious.com/blog/update-this-setting-to-keep-1password-working-in-android-chrome/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

			[[User:Justanuser]] ([[User talk:Justanuser]]) 12 August 2025

	Have done this here: [[Google password manager overrides third-party autofill]]. Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)		Have done this here: [[Google password manager overrides third-party autofill]]. Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

	==suggestions list is uneditable for regular users==		==suggestions list is uneditable for regular users==

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	~~<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Justanuser~~\|~~Justanuser]] ([[User talk:~~Justanuser\|~~talk]] • [[Special~~:~~Contributions/Justanuser\|contribs]]~~) ~~</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->~~		{{Unsigned\|Justanuser\|02:40, 12 August 2025 (UTC)}}

	Have done this here: [[Google password manager overrides third-party autofill]]. Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)		Have done this here: [[Google password manager overrides third-party autofill]]. Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 15:55, 10 October 2025 (UTC)

	==suggestions list is uneditable for regular users==		==suggestions list is uneditable for regular users==

	for now I'll do a quick fix of moving the page outside of the CRW namespace. can work out a better way later [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 09:58, 12 August 2025 (UTC)		for now I'll do a quick fix of moving the page outside of the CRW namespace. can work out a better way later [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 09:58, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

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	==Printers page==		==Printers page==

	I feel like there needs to be a guide or smth along those lines on Printers as a whole. Which brands to avoid, what brands to shortlist, what things to consider, etc. Maybe we could bundle in 3D printers while we're at it? [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:07, 29 August 2025 (UTC)		I feel like there needs to be a guide or smth along those lines on Printers as a whole. Which brands to avoid, what brands to shortlist, what things to consider, etc. Maybe we could bundle in 3D printers while we're at it? [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:07, 29 August 2025 (UTC)

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	==Only incident pages suggested here?==		==Only incident pages suggested here?==

	I'm not sure if there is a policy page I missed here, but I'm having some confusion regarding this page. It seems to only contain incident pages, despite this wiki also containing products, organizations, themes, etc. (according to [[Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Article_types]]), and this page being seemingly labeled as a general article suggestion page, not just for incidents. Could we use this page suggest more than just incidents, or is there another page for suggesting the other types of articles? [[User:PixelRunner\|PixelRunner]] ([[User talk:PixelRunner\|talk]]) 03:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)		I'm not sure if there is a policy page I missed here, but I'm having some confusion regarding this page. It seems to only contain incident pages, despite this wiki also containing products, organizations, themes, etc. (according to [[Consumer_Rights_Wiki:Article_types]]), and this page being seemingly labeled as a general article suggestion page, not just for incidents. Could we use this page suggest more than just incidents, or is there another page for suggesting the other types of articles? [[User:PixelRunner\|PixelRunner]] ([[User talk:PixelRunner\|talk]]) 03:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)

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	==I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list....==		==I HAVETO ADD RANE serato/alphatheata to the list....==

	2800$ for a dj mixer? serato included with purchase? not now 300$+ OR monthly FEE to use it without NAG SCREEN/boxes		2800$ for a dj mixer? serato included with purchase? not now 300$+ OR monthly FEE to use it without NAG SCREEN/boxes

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	==AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users==		==AllTrails sneakily revoked lifetime licenses and forced subscription on users==

	As per title. [https://www.alltrails.com AllTrails] at some point AllTrails was offering lifetime subscriptions that were discontinued in 2019 (see Business Response [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here]).		As per title. [https://www.alltrails.com AllTrails] at some point AllTrails was offering lifetime subscriptions that were discontinued in 2019 (see Business Response [https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/san-francisco/profile/travel-services/alltrails-llc-1116-943157/complaints here]).

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	:Apparently all of this mess was due to VC funding, see comment here: "AllTrails has raised $151m in VC funding. They need to invent features to show they are growing. The product has been "enshittified"." (see comment [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/1lb091a/lifetime_membership_downgraded/ here]). [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)		:Apparently all of this mess was due to VC funding, see comment here: "AllTrails has raised $151m in VC funding. They need to invent features to show they are growing. The product has been "enshittified"." (see comment [https://www.reddit.com/r/alltrails/comments/1lb091a/lifetime_membership_downgraded/ here]). [[User:Languagedivided\|Languagedivided]] ([[User talk:Languagedivided\|talk]]) 11:29, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

	== Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds ==		==Amazon’s Game Streaming Service Removing Access To Purchased Games And Offering No Refunds==

	Sorry i'm new to the wiki but i think the Amazon Luna page and this incident should be added to the wiki https://kotaku.com/amazons-luna-service-removing-access-to-purchased-games-and-is-offering-no-refunds-2000686688 [[Special:Contributions/146.241.168.42\|146.241.168.42]] 17:18, 10 April 2026 (UTC)		Sorry i'm new to the wiki but i think the Amazon Luna page and this incident should be added to the wiki https://kotaku.com/amazons-luna-service-removing-access-to-purchased-games-and-is-offering-no-refunds-2000686688 [[Special:Contributions/146.241.168.42\|146.241.168.42]] 17:18, 10 April 2026 (UTC)