https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ACF_Moto_puts_previously_included_features_behind_paywall 2026-04-29T09:15:20Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.44.0 https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Moto_puts_previously_included_features_behind_paywall&diff=23689&oldid=prev 2025-09-04T15:14:19Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Do we need some sort of &quot;gaslighting rollback&quot; category for this incident?: </span> Reply</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:14, 4 September 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Discussion ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Discussion==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Things we need:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Things we need:</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l7">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Communications with distributors [[User:Vleisbom|Vleisbom]] ([[User talk:Vleisbom|talk]]) 07:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Communications with distributors [[User:Vleisbom|Vleisbom]] ([[User talk:Vleisbom|talk]]) 07:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Do we need some sort of "gaslighting rollback" category for this incident? ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Do we need some sort of "gaslighting rollback" category for this incident?==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looking at the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoLdrcpFy0 Louis corrects CFMOTO misinformation; here&#039;s what really happened video], I&#039;m wondering if we need to have some sort of &quot;gaslighting rollback&quot; category, to document instances where instead of companies admitting they did something the consumers didn&#039;t like and reversing their anti-ownership policy, they pretend that the policy never existed. [[User:Big Mac|Big Mac]] ([[User talk:Big Mac|talk]]) 06:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Looking at the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoLdrcpFy0 Louis corrects CFMOTO misinformation; here&#039;s what really happened video], I&#039;m wondering if we need to have some sort of &quot;gaslighting rollback&quot; category, to document instances where instead of companies admitting they did something the consumers didn&#039;t like and reversing their anti-ownership policy, they pretend that the policy never existed. [[User:Big Mac|Big Mac]] ([[User talk:Big Mac|talk]]) 06:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:When I edited this before, I didn’t think of adding this, and I was the only person who edited today, so info about that video hasn’t been added yet. I hope we can implement it somehow in the wiki as it seems to be a great idea and I do like it. I’m not a mod and I probably won’t create it myself, but I hope it happens in some form. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 15:14, 4 September 2025 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key wiki:diff:1.41:old-23679:rev-23689:php=table --> </table>

AnotherConsumerRightsPerson https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Moto_puts_previously_included_features_behind_paywall&diff=23679&oldid=prev 2025-09-04T06:41:05Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Do we need some sort of &quot;gaslighting rollback&quot; category for this incident?: </span> new section</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 06:41, 4 September 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Communications with distributors [[User:Vleisbom|Vleisbom]] ([[User talk:Vleisbom|talk]]) 07:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Communications with distributors [[User:Vleisbom|Vleisbom]] ([[User talk:Vleisbom|talk]]) 07:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Do we need some sort of "gaslighting rollback" category for this incident? ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Looking at the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsoLdrcpFy0 Louis corrects CFMOTO misinformation; here's what really happened video], I'm wondering if we need to have some sort of "gaslighting rollback" category, to document instances where instead of companies admitting they did something the consumers didn't like and reversing their anti-ownership policy, they pretend that the policy never existed. [[User:Big Mac|Big Mac]] ([[User talk:Big Mac|talk]]) 06:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <!-- diff cache key wiki:diff:1.41:old-20446:rev-23679:php=table --> </table>

Big Mac https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Moto_puts_previously_included_features_behind_paywall&diff=20446&oldid=prev 2025-08-17T16:55:03Z

<p>JackFromWisconsin moved page <a href="/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Moto_%E2%80%93_Change_to_Included_Features_Now_Behind_Paywall&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class="new" title="Talk:CF Moto – Change to Included Features Now Behind Paywall (page does not exist)">Talk:CF Moto – Change to Included Features Now Behind Paywall</a> to <a href="/w/Talk:CF_Moto_puts_previously_included_features_behind_paywall" title="Talk:CF Moto puts previously included features behind paywall">Talk:CF Moto puts previously included features behind paywall</a>: Misspelled title: Not in sentence case: reword slightly</p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:55, 17 August 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="4" class="diff-notice" lang="en"><div class="mw-diff-empty">(No difference)</div> </td></tr> <!-- diff cache key wiki:diff:1.41:old-19804:rev-20446 --> </table>

JackFromWisconsin https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Talk:CF_Moto_puts_previously_included_features_behind_paywall&diff=19804&oldid=prev 2025-08-16T07:44:13Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Discussion: </span> new section</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Discussion ==<br /> <br /> Things we need:<br /> <br /> Screenshots and links to all locations that expresses that there is no subscription (before they get updated)<br /> <br /> Communications with distributors [[User:Vleisbom|Vleisbom]] ([[User talk:Vleisbom|talk]]) 07:44, 16 August 2025 (UTC)</div>

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