Talk:Flock Safety - Revision history

Sojourna: /* A note on archiving links */ new section

2026-01-08T04:00:04Z

A note on archiving links: new section

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	Apologies, this is literally my first time doing anything on a wiki. Nuke this if you need to. [[Special:Contributions/206.255.94.242\|206.255.94.242]] 20:23, 16 November 2025 (UTC)		Apologies, this is literally my first time doing anything on a wiki. Nuke this if you need to. [[Special:Contributions/206.255.94.242\|206.255.94.242]] 20:23, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

			== A note on archiving links ==

			In the course of my cleaning up the citations and adding missing archive links, I have observed the following:

			* Flock Safety has disallowed Internet Archive's Wayback Machine from archiving anything relating to its website.
			* Using the Wayback Machine for archiving Forbe's articles is hit or miss, due to WM honoring the inconsistent URL redirects which degrade the user experience (''e.g.'' a message box blocking the content).

			In both instances I strongly recommend using alternative archival websites. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 04:00, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

206.255.94.242: /* Benn Jordan Flock Expose */ new section

2025-11-16T20:23:35Z

Benn Jordan Flock Expose: new section

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	:Thanks for the heads up. I re-structured the article for lawsuits to have a separate section, especially since most of them are redundant with [[Flock license plate readers]]. The incidents section on this page should now include general information regarding Flock and other products.		:Thanks for the heads up. I re-structured the article for lawsuits to have a separate section, especially since most of them are redundant with [[Flock license plate readers]]. The incidents section on this page should now include general information regarding Flock and other products.
	:As for the table idea, there isn't enough space in a table to fairly describe the various incidents, especially something like lawsuits which contain a lot of information. Even a brief summary risks flattening the nuance and complications of what the lawsuit is alleging. Subheadings and paragraphs is pretty standard for the wiki. [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 00:31, 27 October 2025 (UTC)		:As for the table idea, there isn't enough space in a table to fairly describe the various incidents, especially something like lawsuits which contain a lot of information. Even a brief summary risks flattening the nuance and complications of what the lawsuit is alleging. Subheadings and paragraphs is pretty standard for the wiki. [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 00:31, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

			== Benn Jordan Flock Expose ==

			Benn Jordan (a youtuber) published a video about Flock Safety Camera vulnerabilities on 11/16/2025. The findings, if true, suggest that Flock Safety doesn't understand even basic digital security. In the video he mentions that Senator Ron Wyden is seeking to start a formal Senate investigation of Flock Safety, demonstrates 6 vulnerabilities, asserts that there are 47 known vulnerabilities, and that LEO login credentials were easily located for sale on the dark web. He also mentions that a paper is or will be published describing the security vulnerabilities of Flock Safety cameras.

			Here is the video: https://youtu.be/uB0gr7Fh6lY?si=XHf_9eEnCDgaAJoY

			Apologies, this is literally my first time doing anything on a wiki. Nuke this if you need to. [[Special:Contributions/206.255.94.242\|206.255.94.242]] 20:23, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Beanie Bo: /* "Incidents" */ Reply

2025-10-27T00:31:40Z

"Incidents": Reply

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	== "Incidents" ==		=="Incidents"==

	I'm a bit confused about this section of the page - I fully appreciate the desire to have a repository of information about Flock Safety incidents, but the first line of this section says that this is a list of all incidents (and also that any incidents that are not included - that is to say, part of the subset of "all incidents" previously mentioned - can be found on a category page).		I'm a bit confused about this section of the page - I fully appreciate the desire to have a repository of information about Flock Safety incidents, but the first line of this section says that this is a list of all incidents (and also that any incidents that are not included - that is to say, part of the subset of "all incidents" previously mentioned - can be found on a category page).
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	Thoughts? [[User:Neuropirate\|Neuropirate]] ([[User talk:Neuropirate\|talk]]) 23:29, 26 October 2025 (UTC)		Thoughts? [[User:Neuropirate\|Neuropirate]] ([[User talk:Neuropirate\|talk]]) 23:29, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

			:Thanks for the heads up. I re-structured the article for lawsuits to have a separate section, especially since most of them are redundant with [[Flock license plate readers]]. The incidents section on this page should now include general information regarding Flock and other products.
			:As for the table idea, there isn't enough space in a table to fairly describe the various incidents, especially something like lawsuits which contain a lot of information. Even a brief summary risks flattening the nuance and complications of what the lawsuit is alleging. Subheadings and paragraphs is pretty standard for the wiki. [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 00:31, 27 October 2025 (UTC)

Neuropirate: /* "Incidents" */ new section

2025-10-26T23:29:26Z

"Incidents": new section

New page

== "Incidents" ==

I'm a bit confused about this section of the page - I fully appreciate the desire to have a repository of information about Flock Safety incidents, but the first line of this section says that this is a list of all incidents (and also that any incidents that are not included - that is to say, part of the subset of "all incidents" previously mentioned - can be found on a category page).

Is a great deal of information actually needed about eg. assertions that Flock cameras are an infringement of 4A rights, on these specific incidents? That claim can surely be covered earlier in the article, because most lawsuits regarding the usage of these cameras will probably refer to 4A, etc...

Would it be better as a table? Something more like this...

{| class="wikitable"
|+
!Location
!Date
!Organisation
!Complainant(s)
!Brief Summary
!References
|-
|Norfolk, VA
|2025-09-18
|City of Norfolk
|Lee Schmidt & Crystal Arrington
|Plaintiffs have had their vehicle positions logged >500 times each in a period of 4 months and are suing the City and Chief of Police to have their data deleted, and the cameras disabled
|(Imagine there's a reference here, I think doing the proper formatting would possibly do weird things to this discussion page)
|}

I'd hope a table would invite more contributions to this article as the column headings guide potential contributors to the pertinent information required to be extracted from the source, with no fluff. The format might also help with keeping tone neutral imho.

Thoughts? [[User:Neuropirate|Neuropirate]] ([[User talk:Neuropirate|talk]]) 23:29, 26 October 2025 (UTC)