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Sojourna at 04:28, 9 April 2026

2026-04-09T04:28:16Z

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	:Eeeek! That is definitely worth mentioning, maybe in its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 19:18, 20 October 2025 (UTC)		:Eeeek! That is definitely worth mentioning, maybe in its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 19:18, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
	::I'm not sure if it really needs its own article; why would it? [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:12, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		::I'm not sure if it really needs its own article; why would it? [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:12, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:I've linked this topic [[Talk:Android ~~Data Collection~~\|there]], but it didn't show up [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Talk:Google\|here]] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:20, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:I've linked this topic [[Talk:Android data collection\|there]], but it didn't show up [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Talk:Google\|here]] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:20, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	::What Links Here doesn’t work like that. It counts all links to that place with the hyperlink format. So for example, if I link to the main google article like this: [[Main Page]], checking [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Main Page\|the WLH for the main page]] this will show up in that list as I linked to it (if you get what I mean). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:07, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		::What Links Here doesn’t work like that. It counts all links to that place with the hyperlink format. So for example, if I link to the main google article like this: [[Main Page]], checking [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Main Page\|the WLH for the main page]] this will show up in that list as I linked to it (if you get what I mean). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:07, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Thanks! It works now. I assumed the <code>#</code> didn't work for internal links [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 05:31, 14 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Thanks! It works now. I assumed the <code>#</code> didn't work for internal links [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 05:31, 14 November 2025 (UTC)

Sojourna: /* Android System Safety Core */ wiki.rossmanngroup -> CRW

2026-04-09T04:26:47Z

Android System Safety Core: wiki.rossmanngroup -> CRW

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	Allegedly it all happens locally, but it is hard to trust a silently added proprietary blob that is designed to be used invisibly in many applications. I feel like it is a severe enough risk to be addressed on this page or as a separate wiki page.		Allegedly it all happens locally, but it is hard to trust a silently added proprietary blob that is designed to be used invisibly in many applications. I feel like it is a severe enough risk to be addressed on this page or as a separate wiki page.

	:Created page as a jumping off point: https://wiki~~.rossmanngroup.com~~/~~wiki~~/Android [[User:NDN\|NDN]] ([[User talk:NDN\|talk]]) 16:45, 14 February 2025 (UTC)		:Created page as a jumping off point: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Android [[User:NDN\|NDN]] ([[User talk:NDN\|talk]]) 16:45, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

	==Stadia shutdown==		==Stadia shutdown==

Rudxain: /* Gboard requires PIN to clear learned words */

2026-04-03T23:35:47Z

Gboard requires PIN to clear learned words

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	== Gboard requires PIN to clear learned words ==		== Gboard requires PIN to clear learned words ==

	~~The~~ Gboard [[Android]] app forces the user to input an ad-hoc randomly-generated 4digit sequence to delete all learned words. Asking the user for confirmation is fine, but I find it extremely questionable that the prompt is a PIN, as if deleting that data is a life-or-death situation [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 23:34, 3 April 2026 (UTC)		Since months (years?) ago, the Gboard [[Android]] app forces the user to input an ad-hoc randomly-generated 4digit sequence to delete all learned words. Asking the user for confirmation is fine, but I find it extremely questionable that the prompt is a PIN, as if deleting that data is a life-or-death situation [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 23:34, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Rudxain: /* Gboard requires PIN to clear learned words */ new section

2026-04-03T23:34:35Z

Gboard requires PIN to clear learned words: new section

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	Idea [https://zulip.consumerrights.wiki/#narrow/channel/4-discord-bridge/topic/introductions-and-questions/near/7810 from here] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 02:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC)		Idea [https://zulip.consumerrights.wiki/#narrow/channel/4-discord-bridge/topic/introductions-and-questions/near/7810 from here] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 02:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

			== Gboard requires PIN to clear learned words ==

			The Gboard [[Android]] app forces the user to input an ad-hoc randomly-generated 4digit sequence to delete all learned words. Asking the user for confirmation is fine, but I find it extremely questionable that the prompt is a PIN, as if deleting that data is a life-or-death situation [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 23:34, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Rudxain: /* No account transfer */ new section

2026-04-01T02:56:11Z

No account transfer: new section

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	Sorry this is my first contribution to this place and I hope you guys can give me pointers on how to convert this info into something more useful and whether it belongs here in the first place. And if it does I'll try to invite the actual victim and the person who made the vids here so that they can cooperate and add more info. Cheers! [[User:Cowbless\|Cowbless]] ([[User talk:Cowbless\|talk]]) 09:34, 15 March 2026 (UTC)		Sorry this is my first contribution to this place and I hope you guys can give me pointers on how to convert this info into something more useful and whether it belongs here in the first place. And if it does I'll try to invite the actual victim and the person who made the vids here so that they can cooperate and add more info. Cheers! [[User:Cowbless\|Cowbless]] ([[User talk:Cowbless\|talk]]) 09:34, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

			== No account transfer ==

			Google doesn't support "renaming" the main Gmail address of an account, it doesn't even support transferring all data between accounts. However, it does have an "export" feature. I'm not sure where in the article this should be mentioned.

			Idea [https://zulip.consumerrights.wiki/#narrow/channel/4-discord-bridge/topic/introductions-and-questions/near/7810 from here] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 02:56, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

Rudxain: /* JS */ Reply

2026-03-24T16:23:30Z

JS: Reply

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	::I'm posting both because the 1st one is "better" (for now) [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 22:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)		::I'm posting both because the 1st one is "better" (for now) [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 22:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
	:::as a noscript user, I agree [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)		:::as a noscript user, I agree [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)
			:* The inf-redir thing is linked in the JS article
			:* I've [https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Forced_app_download&diff=prev&oldid=46925 mentioned the Lens thing on FADL]
			:* JS requirement for Search is mentioned (on JS article), but not the login thing
			:[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 16:23, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

	==they REALLY despise ad-blockers==		==they REALLY despise ad-blockers==

Rudxain: /* they REALLY despise ad-blockers */ Reply

2026-03-24T16:17:59Z

they REALLY despise ad-blockers: Reply

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	::What Links Here doesn’t work like that. It counts all links to that place with the hyperlink format. So for example, if I link to the main google article like this: [[Main Page]], checking [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Main Page\|the WLH for the main page]] this will show up in that list as I linked to it (if you get what I mean). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:07, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		::What Links Here doesn’t work like that. It counts all links to that place with the hyperlink format. So for example, if I link to the main google article like this: [[Main Page]], checking [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Main Page\|the WLH for the main page]] this will show up in that list as I linked to it (if you get what I mean). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:07, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Thanks! It works now. I assumed the <code>#</code> didn't work for internal links [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 05:31, 14 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Thanks! It works now. I assumed the <code>#</code> didn't work for internal links [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 05:31, 14 November 2025 (UTC)
			:[https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Google&diff=prev&oldid=46935 Done!] (found enough sources) [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 16:17, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

	== G+ Name Policy controversy (2011) ==		==G+ Name Policy controversy (2011)==

	* [https://stilgherrian.com/only-one-name/right-google-you-stupid-cunts-this-is-simply-not-on/ Stilgherrian's blog post]		*[https://stilgherrian.com/only-one-name/right-google-you-stupid-cunts-this-is-simply-not-on/ Stilgherrian's blog post]
	* [https://eev.ee/blog/2011/09/05/google-postdecrement/ eevee's blog post]		*[https://eev.ee/blog/2011/09/05/google-postdecrement/ eevee's blog post]

	[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 19:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)		[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 19:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

	== Glaring mishandling of clear-cut hacking cases ==		==Glaring mishandling of clear-cut hacking cases==

	So far I have one incident that could be escalated into a paragraph in Google's article if there are any more similar incidents with comparable level of documentation.		So far I have one incident that could be escalated into a paragraph in Google's article if there are any more similar incidents with comparable level of documentation.

Rudxain: remove XScreenSaver topic, as I added the link to ext-links

2026-03-24T14:58:37Z

remove XScreenSaver topic, as I added the link to ext-links

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	::I'm posting both because the 1st one is "better" (for now) [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 22:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)		::I'm posting both because the 1st one is "better" (for now) [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 22:01, 15 December 2025 (UTC)
	:::as a noscript user, I agree [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)		:::as a noscript user, I agree [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:36, 16 December 2025 (UTC)

	~~==G forces screen-saver to have privacy-policy; they get roasted instead==~~

	~~https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/google.html~~

	==they REALLY despise ad-blockers==		==they REALLY despise ad-blockers==

Cowbless: /* Glaring mishandling of clear-cut hacking cases */

2026-03-15T09:42:31Z

Glaring mishandling of clear-cut hacking cases

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	Sorry this is my first contribution to this place and I hope you guys can give me pointers on how to convert this info into something more useful and whether it belongs here in the first place. Cheers! [[User:Cowbless\|Cowbless]] ([[User talk:Cowbless\|talk]]) 09:34, 15 March 2026 (UTC)		Sorry this is my first contribution to this place and I hope you guys can give me pointers on how to convert this info into something more useful and whether it belongs here in the first place. And if it does I'll try to invite the actual victim and the person who made the vids here so that they can cooperate and add more info. Cheers! [[User:Cowbless\|Cowbless]] ([[User talk:Cowbless\|talk]]) 09:34, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Cowbless: /* Glaring mishandling of clear-cut hacking cases */ new section

2026-03-15T09:34:49Z

Glaring mishandling of clear-cut hacking cases: new section

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	[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 19:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)		[[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 19:10, 21 January 2026 (UTC)

			== Glaring mishandling of clear-cut hacking cases ==

			So far I have one incident that could be escalated into a paragraph in Google's article if there are any more similar incidents with comparable level of documentation.

			TL;DR Google refuses to restore access to a known youtuber's gmail account despite huge public backlash, highly suspicious internet traffic, all conceivable proof of ownership and big public backlash. They even reached out to ask the hacked person to delete their original tweet (for their own safety ofc!) but can't do jack because of an apparently existing loophole that hackers used - claiming the account under the parental control of...itself?


			Here are the relevant vids with info on the case

			https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOz6P91BTzU - the original incident report

			https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAevKYgCh5s - follow up after public backlash.


			Sorry this is my first contribution to this place and I hope you guys can give me pointers on how to convert this info into something more useful and whether it belongs here in the first place. Cheers! [[User:Cowbless\|Cowbless]] ([[User talk:Cowbless\|talk]]) 09:34, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

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	:Eeeek! That is definitely worth mentioning, maybe in its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 19:18, 20 October 2025 (UTC)		:Eeeek! That is definitely worth mentioning, maybe in its own article? [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 19:18, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
	::I'm not sure if it really needs its own article; why would it? [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:12, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		::I'm not sure if it really needs its own article; why would it? [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:12, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:I've linked this topic [[Talk:Android ~~Data Collection~~\|there]], but it didn't show up [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Talk:Google\|here]] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:20, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:I've linked this topic [[Talk:Android data collection\|there]], but it didn't show up [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Talk:Google\|here]] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 12:20, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	::What Links Here doesn’t work like that. It counts all links to that place with the hyperlink format. So for example, if I link to the main google article like this: [[Main Page]], checking [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Main Page\|the WLH for the main page]] this will show up in that list as I linked to it (if you get what I mean). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:07, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		::What Links Here doesn’t work like that. It counts all links to that place with the hyperlink format. So for example, if I link to the main google article like this: [[Main Page]], checking [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Main Page\|the WLH for the main page]] this will show up in that list as I linked to it (if you get what I mean). [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 16:07, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Thanks! It works now. I assumed the <code>#</code> didn't work for internal links [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 05:31, 14 November 2025 (UTC)		:::Thanks! It works now. I assumed the <code>#</code> didn't work for internal links [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 05:31, 14 November 2025 (UTC)