Talk:Google Gemini - Revision history

Beanie Bo: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

2025-11-17T21:50:53Z

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	:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	::::My apologies for being curt. It's just that there are no specific incidents related to Gemini having consumer issues (as opposed to LLM's in general), which is why someone added the relevance notice. Company articles usually have at least one relevant incident as a stub, otherwise they get deleted. So I mentioned you in case you had something to add before it does [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)		::::My apologies for being curt. It's just that there are no specific incidents related to Gemini having consumer issues (as opposed to LLM's in general), which is why someone added the relevance notice. Company articles usually have at least one relevant incident as a stub, otherwise they get deleted. So I mentioned you in case you had something to add before it does [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::I'm sorry, I did not see that post. My mistake [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 21:50, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
	:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]		:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
	:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)		:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Beanie Bo: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

2025-11-17T21:49:32Z

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	:::Another way something like this could have been said: "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."		:::Another way something like this could have been said: "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."
	:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Please clarify what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.		:::Please clarify what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.
	:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::My apologies for being curt. It's just that there are no specific incidents related to Gemini having consumer issues (as opposed to LLM's in general), which is why someone added the relevance notice. Company articles usually have at least one relevant incident as a stub, otherwise they get deleted. So I mentioned you in case you had something to add before it does [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
	:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]		:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
	:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)		:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Drakeula: typo 2

2025-11-13T17:15:57Z

typo 2

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	:::A month later than what?		:::A month later than what?
	:::This came across as threatening. (Work on this now, or else. No reason given for deletion - seems like just to put pressure on an editor who was just trying to help.) May not be the intent, but that is how it feels. I don't like threats, so this gave me no incentive to work on this.		:::This came across as threatening. (Work on this now, or else. No reason given for deletion - seems like just to put pressure on an editor who was just trying to help.) May not be the intent, but that is how it feels. I don't like threats, so this gave me no incentive to work on this.
	:::Another way something like this could have been. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."		:::Another way something like this could have been said: "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."
	:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::Please clarify what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.		:::Please clarify what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.

Drakeula: clarify

2025-11-13T17:14:07Z

clarify

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	:::Another way something like this could have been. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."		:::Another way something like this could have been. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."
	:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::~~I don't understand~~ what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.		:::Please clarify what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.
	:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]		:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
	:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)		:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Drakeula: typo

2025-11-13T17:13:22Z

typo

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	:::A month later than what?		:::A month later than what?
	:::This came across as threatening. (Work on this now, or else. No reason given for deletion - seems like just to put pressure on an editor who was just trying to help.) May not be the intent, but that is how it feels. I don't like threats, so this gave me no incentive to work on this.		:::This came across as threatening. (Work on this now, or else. No reason given for deletion - seems like just to put pressure on an editor who was just trying to help.) May not be the intent, but that is how it feels. I don't like threats, so this gave me no incentive to work on this.
	:::Another way something like this could have been ~~said~~. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."		:::Another way something like this could have been. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."
	:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::I don't understand what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.		:::I don't understand what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.

Drakeula: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

2025-11-13T17:10:33Z

Relevancy discussion: Reply

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	:::A month later than what?		:::A month later than what?
	:::This came across as threatening. (Work on this now, or else. No reason given for deletion - seems like just to put pressure on an editor who was just trying to help.) May not be the intent, but that is how it feels. I don't like threats, so this gave me no incentive to work on this.		:::This came across as threatening. (Work on this now, or else. No reason given for deletion - seems like just to put pressure on an editor who was just trying to help.) May not be the intent, but that is how it feels. I don't like threats, so this gave me no incentive to work on this.
	:::Another way something like this could have been said. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."		:::Another way something like this could have been said. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."
	:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::I don't understand what trying to say by emphasis on ''specific to Gemini''. The security issues I cited are with Gemini.
			:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]		:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
	:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)		:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Drakeula: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

2025-11-13T17:04:32Z

Relevancy discussion: Reply

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	:[[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)		:[[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
	::It's been a month later. If you'd like to add some relevant incidents that are ''specific to Gemini,'' then you're free to do so. Otherwise, this article will likely be deleted. [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 14:17, 7 November 2025 (UTC)		::It's been a month later. If you'd like to add some relevant incidents that are ''specific to Gemini,'' then you're free to do so. Otherwise, this article will likely be deleted. [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 14:17, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::A month later than what?
			:::This came across as threatening. (Work on this now, or else. No reason given for deletion - seems like just to put pressure on an editor who was just trying to help.) May not be the intent, but that is how it feels. I don't like threats, so this gave me no incentive to work on this.
			:::Another way something like this could have been said. "I am interested in adding some more incidents to this article. You seem to know about AI. When you have a minute, could you suggest a few more references, or incidents involving Gemini? Thanks."
			:::I respond better to a request like that. I suspect many others would also. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:04, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]		:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
	:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)		:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Beanie Bo: /* Relevancy discussion */ Reply

2025-11-07T14:17:06Z

Relevancy discussion: Reply

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	:Prompt-inject an AI chatbot with … an image![https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/22/prompt-inject-an-ai-chatbot-with-an-image/]		:Prompt-inject an AI chatbot with … an image![https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/22/prompt-inject-an-ai-chatbot-with-an-image/]
	:[[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)		:[[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
	:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]		::It's been a month later. If you'd like to add some relevant incidents that are ''specific to Gemini,'' then you're free to do so. Otherwise, this article will likely be deleted. [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 14:17, 7 November 2025 (UTC)
			:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
	:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)		:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Drakeula: /* Relevancy discussion */ another gemini ref

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Relevancy discussion: another gemini ref

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	:@[[User:JackFromWisconsin\|JackFromWisconsin]] I don’t see any incidents related to consumer rights after doing a search either. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)		:@[[User:JackFromWisconsin\|JackFromWisconsin]] I don’t see any incidents related to consumer rights after doing a search either. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
	:Gemini is subject to many of the same anti-consumer problems as most LLM/chatbots. (Misleading/false advertising. Consumer manipulation. etc.)		:Gemini is subject to many of the same anti-consumer problems as most LLM/chatbots. (Misleading/false advertising. Consumer manipulation. etc.)
	:Here are a couple of examples. These happen to be about privacy, security and autonomy, but there is lots more out there.		:Here are a couple of examples. These happen to be about privacy, security and autonomy, but there is lots more out there.
	:Hack a smart home with a calendar invite! And Google Gemini[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/10/hack-a-smart-home-with-a-calendar-invite-and-google-gemini/]		:Hack a smart home with a calendar invite! And Google Gemini[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/10/hack-a-smart-home-with-a-calendar-invite-and-google-gemini/]
	:Prompt-inject an AI chatbot with … an image![https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/22/prompt-inject-an-ai-chatbot-with-an-image/]		:Prompt-inject an AI chatbot with … an image![https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/22/prompt-inject-an-ai-chatbot-with-an-image/]
	:[[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)		:[[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)
			:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
			:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)

Drakeula: /* Relevancy discussion */ A couple of examples

2025-10-04T21:57:56Z

Relevancy discussion: A couple of examples

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	:@[[User:JackFromWisconsin\|JackFromWisconsin]] I don’t see any incidents related to consumer rights after doing a search either. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)		:@[[User:JackFromWisconsin\|JackFromWisconsin]] I don’t see any incidents related to consumer rights after doing a search either. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 06:15, 30 August 2025 (UTC)
			:Gemini is subject to many of the same anti-consumer problems as most LLM/chatbots. (Misleading/false advertising. Consumer manipulation. etc.)
			:Here are a couple of examples. These happen to be about privacy, security and autonomy, but there is lots more out there.
			:Hack a smart home with a calendar invite! And Google Gemini[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/10/hack-a-smart-home-with-a-calendar-invite-and-google-gemini/]
			:Prompt-inject an AI chatbot with … an image![https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/08/22/prompt-inject-an-ai-chatbot-with-an-image/]
			:[[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 21:57, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

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	:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)		:::For example, ChatGPT has similar issues for inducing delusional disorders, misleading, etc. However it is not (as far as I know) integrated with Gmail, or Google docs, or Google search, or Googles other ubiquitous products. So, while Gemini shares the same underlying security problems as all LLMs, the impact of these problems in Gemini is greater because of the products reach, and more specific to users of Google products. I tried to say that in the post blow (which predates this discussion), was that unclear, or ??? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 17:10, 13 November 2025 (UTC)
	::::My apologies for being curt. It's just that there are no specific incidents related to Gemini having consumer issues (as opposed to LLM's in general), which is why someone added the relevance notice. Company articles usually have at least one relevant incident as a stub, otherwise they get deleted. So I mentioned you in case you had something to add before it does [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)		::::My apologies for being curt. It's just that there are no specific incidents related to Gemini having consumer issues (as opposed to LLM's in general), which is why someone added the relevance notice. Company articles usually have at least one relevant incident as a stub, otherwise they get deleted. So I mentioned you in case you had something to add before it does [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 21:49, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::I'm sorry, I did not see that post. My mistake [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 21:50, 17 November 2025 (UTC)
	:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]		:Google says they will not be fixing One of the attack types (ASCII injection) mentioned in article above about prompt injection. (One that is actually fixable.) ''Google won’t fix ‘ASCII smuggling’ hack in Gemini AI'' [[https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/10/11/google-wont-fix-ascii-smuggling-hack-in-gemini-ai/]]
	:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)		:Gemini is pretty much anywhere you find Google apps, so the targets are plentiful, and Google is going to keep 'em nice and vulnerable. Not good for consumers. [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:01, 12 October 2025 (UTC)