Talk:Healthline - Revision history

Mr Pollo at 22:39, 24 January 2026

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	::one of the things that really bug me is '''the''' lack of expert review lol. when searching anything medical related Healthline's like the top results in the first page. the site also generates a fuckton of traffic yet nothing holding them accountable than volunteers on Wikipedia and CRW? damn shit fucked af		::one of the things that really bug me is '''the''' lack of expert review lol. when searching anything medical related Healthline's like the top results in the first page. the site also generates a fuckton of traffic yet nothing holding them accountable than volunteers on Wikipedia and CRW? damn shit fucked af
	::anyway nothing for us to do than our work [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 09:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)		::anyway nothing for us to do than our work [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 09:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
	:::I agree that AI in its current state is increasing becoming an unwanted mainstay in our society and lives among the general public (I myself am getting AI fatigue). Though like what Keith said, the wiki would need sources from experts debunking those Healthline articles and not ~~us being~~ the ~~entity to debunk~~ them. [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 22:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)		:::I agree that AI in its current state is increasing becoming an unwanted mainstay in our society and lives among the general public (I myself am getting AI fatigue). Though like what Keith said, the wiki would need sources from experts debunking those Healthline articles and not an unqualified entity like the wiki debunking them (only reporting on the debunking by qualified professionals). [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 22:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

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	::one of the things that really bug me is '''the''' lack of expert review lol. when searching anything medical related Healthline's like the top results in the first page. the site also generates a fuckton of traffic yet nothing holding them accountable than volunteers on Wikipedia and CRW? damn shit fucked af		::one of the things that really bug me is '''the''' lack of expert review lol. when searching anything medical related Healthline's like the top results in the first page. the site also generates a fuckton of traffic yet nothing holding them accountable than volunteers on Wikipedia and CRW? damn shit fucked af
	::anyway nothing for us to do than our work [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 09:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)		::anyway nothing for us to do than our work [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 09:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)
			:::I agree that AI in its current state is increasing becoming an unwanted mainstay in our society and lives among the general public (I myself am getting AI fatigue). Though like what Keith said, the wiki would need sources from experts debunking those Healthline articles and not us being the entity to debunk them. [[User:Mr Pollo\|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo\|talk]]) 22:36, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

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	:with regards to misinformation, we need to be citing experts who are calling them out for being inaccurate, not joining those dots ourselves.		:with regards to misinformation, we need to be citing experts who are calling them out for being inaccurate, not joining those dots ourselves.
	:but yeah, i'd say that the main issue here is a lack of secondary sources, rather than a relevance issue. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 23:50, 23 January 2026 (UTC)		:but yeah, i'd say that the main issue here is a lack of secondary sources, rather than a relevance issue. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 23:50, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
			::ah I didn't consider that lol. CRW's the first time I've done anything like this so am still learning new stuff.
			::anyhow, they do not explicitly mention using AI for generation. they state "In some cases, Artificial Intelligence (AI), or similar technology, may be used in developing elements of our content." due to the vagueness of that statement it could contain generation but atm I have no receipts. the usage of accelerating certain tedious workflows is fine by me. but based on the current state of AI I feel we must be cautious. for me the inclusion is context. for those actually making a decision regarding Healthline to have in the back of their mind. some people despise AI and I can't blame them for it. hence when they see "this product uses AI" they might take their "business" (couldn't find a better word lmao) elsewhere.
			::one of the things that really bug me is '''the''' lack of expert review lol. when searching anything medical related Healthline's like the top results in the first page. the site also generates a fuckton of traffic yet nothing holding them accountable than volunteers on Wikipedia and CRW? damn shit fucked af
			::anyway nothing for us to do than our work [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 09:42, 24 January 2026 (UTC)

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	hey [[User:Mr Pollo]] I saw the edit summary and would like to discuss. my primary drive for writing the article was the cookies incident. but for inclusion to the wiki I had to justify its existence. and as I had nothing better I put it off for a while. till I stumbled onto Wikipedia's {{wplink\|Healthline\|article}} where they mention the site being banned for the publishing of missinfo. I then read through the {{wplink\|Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 409\|discussion}} and hence deemed it worthy for inclusion to the wiki. I have some medical knowledge but its all just amateur. hence leaving it up for more knowledgable people to fill up the misinfo section. but based on said knowledge I deemed Healthline to be publishing perhaps not misinfo but certainly misleading stuff.		hey [[User:Mr Pollo]] I saw the edit summary and would like to discuss. my primary drive for writing the article was the cookies incident. but for inclusion to the wiki I had to justify its existence. and as I had nothing better I put it off for a while. till I stumbled onto Wikipedia's {{wplink\|Healthline\|article}} where they mention the site being banned for the publishing of missinfo. I then read through the {{wplink\|Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 409\|discussion}} and hence deemed it worthy for inclusion to the wiki. I have some medical knowledge but its all just amateur. hence leaving it up for more knowledgable people to fill up the misinfo section. but based on said knowledge I deemed Healthline to be publishing perhaps not misinfo but certainly misleading stuff.
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	p.s. I had to write this shit twice cuz elec knocked out my PC and all the sacred text with it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)		p.s. I had to write this shit twice cuz elec knocked out my PC and all the sacred text with it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

			:The main thing here is that we shouldn't be proffering original interpretation, or covering issues that no-one else has covered.
			:With regards to the AI stuff, are there actually any reported/sourced examples of their site providing fully AI-generated answers/inaccurate answers in an AI-generated way? There are several ways that AI could be used legitimately in article creation (e.g. to comb through and highlight relevant sections of a medical textbook, or correct grammatical errors) so we'd need more than just a 'they say they sometimes use AI in their writing process' to justify its inclusion. The cookies thing is fine to mention, though I don't know if it's enough to warrant an article on its own, if it's the only thing. probably fine as a stub with that.
			:with regards to misinformation, we need to be citing experts who are calling them out for being inaccurate, not joining those dots ourselves.
			:but yeah, i'd say that the main issue here is a lack of secondary sources, rather than a relevance issue. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 23:50, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

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hey [[User:Mr Pollo]] I saw the edit summary and would like to discuss. my primary drive for writing the article was the cookies incident. but for inclusion to the wiki I had to justify its existence. and as I had nothing better I put it off for a while. till I stumbled onto Wikipedia's {{wplink|Healthline|article}} where they mention the site being banned for the publishing of missinfo. I then read through the {{wplink|Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 409|discussion}} and hence deemed it worthy for inclusion to the wiki. I have some medical knowledge but its all just amateur. hence leaving it up for more knowledgable people to fill up the misinfo section. but based on said knowledge I deemed Healthline to be publishing perhaps not misinfo but certainly misleading stuff.

there is no such thing as a super food as they quite often have stated. yes some foods have beneficial qualities and people seeking such qualities may find it useful. but outright glazing them is not beneficial. example: in the weight loss article they state, "It’s also one of the most effective teas for [https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/green-tea-and-weight-loss weight loss]. There is substantial evidence linking green tea to decreases in both weight and body fat." a regular person might just take that statement and just run with it. drinking green tea while undertaking a weight loss regiment might boost it, but this shit ain't ozempic. mb tea's not the absolute worst offender to your health but people might treat other charged statements with the same regard and end up with devestating results.

their sources may be credible but at the end of the day Healthline are the ones writing the article. if they're quoting from the studies that's another thing but they are actively reporting on it. they tout that their articles are vetted by real doctors but the medical field is very complicated. a generalized "recommendation" cannot be made when the topic of health varies from individual to individual. one cannot make a statement like "green tea good! we have sound proof" and not expect people to take their word for it. Healthline in this case imo is kinda acting like sellout influencers. they used to perhaps hold a crux of truth in their starting but have since devolved into regurgetating whatever they can for clicks.

if CRW isn't the place for such reporting I understand. but I think the rest of the incidents deserve to stay. rejecting cookies is discussed here and so are AI hallucinations (which are significantly worse i the medical context).

p.s. I had to write this shit twice cuz elec knocked out my PC and all the sacred text with it. [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 18:08, 23 January 2026 (UTC)