Talk:UK Mandatory Digital ID Rollout for Employment 2025 - Revision history

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	::I think this is still creeping too far into civil rights territory. it's very important, but just not within the wiki's scope.		::I think this is still creeping too far into civil rights territory. it's very important, but just not within the wiki's scope.
	::if we applied the 'everyone is a consumer' logic you use there, then suddenly literally everything becomes relevant to the wiki. I don't want articles about voter ID or ICE or freedom of speech laws or whatever starting to flood the wiki. Do we start a series of articles on North Korea's societal repression too? Eritrea? Are the massacres of the Sudanese civil war relevant because the people who died were consumers? it just seems like it's past the line of what's in-scope. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 09:41, 18 December 2025 (UTC)		::if we applied the 'everyone is a consumer' logic you use there, then suddenly literally everything becomes relevant to the wiki. I don't want articles about voter ID or ICE or freedom of speech laws or whatever starting to flood the wiki. Do we start a series of articles on North Korea's societal repression too? Eritrea? Are the massacres of the Sudanese civil war relevant because the people who died were consumers? it just seems like it's past the line of what's in-scope. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 09:41, 18 December 2025 (UTC)
			:::I agree. This article topic is too generalized to be relevant to CRW. The SloppyAI tag also doesn't help its case, either. — [[User:Sojourna\|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna\|talk]]) 22:35, 25 January 2026 (UTC)

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2025-12-18T09:41:05Z

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	:Sorry if all that is irrelevant to this system, but I am short on time at the moment to research.		:Sorry if all that is irrelevant to this system, but I am short on time at the moment to research.
	:What makes something consumer rights rather than civil rights? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:29, 24 October 2025 (UTC)		:What makes something consumer rights rather than civil rights? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:29, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
	:I would like to broaden the focus of this article to Digital ID in general, since it's rolling out in several countries all at once. There are a few stories about personal information being leaked and undetected white hat security breaches in these systems that I believe it should cover. The UK Government also quietly funded the rollout of Digital ID in another country and use it as a success story to the UK public to justify it. They also said they were developing it in-house and had farmed it out to a private company in Romania. I'll need to collect sources, of course, but it's something I've been following closely.		:I would like to broaden the focus of this article to Digital ID in general, since it's rolling out in several countries all at once. There are a few stories about personal information being leaked and undetected white hat security breaches in these systems that I believe it should cover. The UK Government also quietly funded the rollout of Digital ID in another country and use it as a success story to the UK public to justify it. They also said they were developing it in-house and had farmed it out to a private company in Romania. I'll need to collect sources, of course, but it's something I've been following closely.
	:Privacy is a human right and consumers are human so I think it's relevant. What do you think, @[[User:Keith\|Keith]]? [[User:LegislationRepair\|LegislationRepair]] ([[User talk:LegislationRepair\|talk]]) 12:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)		:Privacy is a human right and consumers are human so I think it's relevant. What do you think, @[[User:Keith\|Keith]]? [[User:LegislationRepair\|LegislationRepair]] ([[User talk:LegislationRepair\|talk]]) 12:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
			::I think this is still creeping too far into civil rights territory. it's very important, but just not within the wiki's scope.
			::if we applied the 'everyone is a consumer' logic you use there, then suddenly literally everything becomes relevant to the wiki. I don't want articles about voter ID or ICE or freedom of speech laws or whatever starting to flood the wiki. Do we start a series of articles on North Korea's societal repression too? Eritrea? Are the massacres of the Sudanese civil war relevant because the people who died were consumers? it just seems like it's past the line of what's in-scope. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 09:41, 18 December 2025 (UTC)

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2025-12-17T12:15:48Z

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	Article seems like it is probably not relevant to the wiki. Unlike the OSA, which has severe data privacy and security issues inherent to the way it has been implemented, there's not much regarding the digital ID implementation that is specifically consumer rights related, rather than related to general civil rights. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 23:22, 15 October 2025 (UTC)		Article seems like it is probably not relevant to the wiki. Unlike the OSA, which has severe data privacy and security issues inherent to the way it has been implemented, there's not much regarding the digital ID implementation that is specifically consumer rights related, rather than related to general civil rights. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 23:22, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

	:I know nothing about the system besides what I read here, however it is hard for me to see how it isn't consumer rights related. It appears to be a system where the government determines who may be a consumer. (For most people, if you don't work then you don't get money, then you don't consume.) (Billionaires asside). Such a system would certainly have broad consumer impact. Rather like the social security number in the USA. They claimed it would just be for employment, and not be a national identification system. However it has evolved into much more than just employment (feature creep). It is a valuable target for identity theft, etc.		:I know nothing about the system besides what I read here, however it is hard for me to see how it isn't consumer rights related. It appears to be a system where the government determines who may be a consumer. (For most people, if you don't work then you don't get money, then you don't consume.) (Billionaires asside). Such a system would certainly have broad consumer impact. Rather like the social security number in the USA. They claimed it would just be for employment, and not be a national identification system. However it has evolved into much more than just employment (feature creep). It is a valuable target for identity theft, etc.
	:Sorry if all that is irrelevant to this system, but I am short on time at the moment to research.		:Sorry if all that is irrelevant to this system, but I am short on time at the moment to research.
	:What makes something consumer rights rather than civil rights? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:29, 24 October 2025 (UTC)		:What makes something consumer rights rather than civil rights? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:29, 24 October 2025 (UTC)
			:I would like to broaden the focus of this article to Digital ID in general, since it's rolling out in several countries all at once. There are a few stories about personal information being leaked and undetected white hat security breaches in these systems that I believe it should cover. The UK Government also quietly funded the rollout of Digital ID in another country and use it as a success story to the UK public to justify it. They also said they were developing it in-house and had farmed it out to a private company in Romania. I'll need to collect sources, of course, but it's something I've been following closely.
			:Privacy is a human right and consumers are human so I think it's relevant. What do you think, @[[User:Keith\|Keith]]? [[User:LegislationRepair\|LegislationRepair]] ([[User talk:LegislationRepair\|talk]]) 12:15, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

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	Article seems like it is probably not relevant to the wiki. Unlike the OSA, which has severe data privacy and security issues inherent to the way it has been implemented, there's not much regarding the digital ID implementation that is specifically consumer rights related, rather than related to general civil rights. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 23:22, 15 October 2025 (UTC)		Article seems like it is probably not relevant to the wiki. Unlike the OSA, which has severe data privacy and security issues inherent to the way it has been implemented, there's not much regarding the digital ID implementation that is specifically consumer rights related, rather than related to general civil rights. [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 23:22, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

			:I know nothing about the system besides what I read here, however it is hard for me to see how it isn't consumer rights related. It appears to be a system where the government determines who may be a consumer. (For most people, if you don't work then you don't get money, then you don't consume.) (Billionaires asside). Such a system would certainly have broad consumer impact. Rather like the social security number in the USA. They claimed it would just be for employment, and not be a national identification system. However it has evolved into much more than just employment (feature creep). It is a valuable target for identity theft, etc.
			:Sorry if all that is irrelevant to this system, but I am short on time at the moment to research.
			:What makes something consumer rights rather than civil rights? [[User:Drakeula\|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula\|talk]]) 01:29, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

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2025-10-15T23:22:31Z

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Article seems like it is probably not relevant to the wiki. Unlike the OSA, which has severe data privacy and security issues inherent to the way it has been implemented, there's not much regarding the digital ID implementation that is specifically consumer rights related, rather than related to general civil rights. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 23:22, 15 October 2025 (UTC)