Talk:VMware licensing change since acquisition by Broadcom - Revision history

Beanie Bo: /* Article notice */ Reply

2025-09-07T15:32:46Z

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	:There are many more full-sentence instances of showing bias against Broadcom, and the overall tone of the article appears judgmental instead of neutral. More weight is going toward criticism of Broadcom instead of simply stating the facts of the case, which is completely necessary for incident articles. To get this tone notice removed, the article must be framed more objectively and fairly and should balance all sides of the argument while giving '''due weight''' to the issue at hand. More info on the [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Wiki content policies\|CRW Content Policies.]] [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 13:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)		:There are many more full-sentence instances of showing bias against Broadcom, and the overall tone of the article appears judgmental instead of neutral. More weight is going toward criticism of Broadcom instead of simply stating the facts of the case, which is completely necessary for incident articles. To get this tone notice removed, the article must be framed more objectively and fairly and should balance all sides of the argument while giving '''due weight''' to the issue at hand. More info on the [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Wiki content policies\|CRW Content Policies.]] [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 13:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
	::@[[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] Thank you for the extensive explanation, I have toned down the article with your suggestions. [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust\|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust\|talk]]) 15:21, 7 September 2025 (UTC)		::@[[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] Thank you for the extensive explanation, I have toned down the article with your suggestions. [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust\|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust\|talk]]) 15:21, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
			:::It looks much better now. I removed the tone notice!
			:::For Broadcom's response, I would suggest elaborating a bit more as a way to balance the article and show their side, a sort of "due process" if you will. This is a necessary part in creating a balanced, neutral article.
			:::Overall, your tone improvements helped a lot, and the article looks great! [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 15:32, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

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2025-09-07T15:21:38Z

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	:- '''first and second person pronouns:''' in phrases like ""even if '''you''' do not use them" and "must provide '''us''' with support."		:- '''first and second person pronouns:''' in phrases like ""even if '''you''' do not use them" and "must provide '''us''' with support."
	:There are many more full-sentence instances of showing bias against Broadcom, and the overall tone of the article appears judgmental instead of neutral. More weight is going toward criticism of Broadcom instead of simply stating the facts of the case, which is completely necessary for incident articles. To get this tone notice removed, the article must be framed more objectively and fairly and should balance all sides of the argument while giving '''due weight''' to the issue at hand. More info on the [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Wiki content policies\|CRW Content Policies.]] [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 13:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)		:There are many more full-sentence instances of showing bias against Broadcom, and the overall tone of the article appears judgmental instead of neutral. More weight is going toward criticism of Broadcom instead of simply stating the facts of the case, which is completely necessary for incident articles. To get this tone notice removed, the article must be framed more objectively and fairly and should balance all sides of the argument while giving '''due weight''' to the issue at hand. More info on the [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Wiki content policies\|CRW Content Policies.]] [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 13:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)
			::@[[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] Thank you for the extensive explanation, I have toned down the article with your suggestions. [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust\|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust\|talk]]) 15:21, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

InTransparencyWeTrust: InTransparencyWeTrust moved page Talk:VMware extraordinary price increase for licenses since acquisition by Broadcom to Talk:VMware licensing change since acquisition by Broadcom: Improve tone of the article title

2025-09-07T15:13:20Z

InTransparencyWeTrust moved page Talk:VMware extraordinary price increase for licenses since acquisition by Broadcom to Talk:VMware licensing change since acquisition by Broadcom: Improve tone of the article title

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Beanie Bo: /* Article notice */ Reply

2025-09-07T13:25:56Z

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	@[[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] Hi, I saw that you added a tone warning. You did not mention which sentences, I have rephrased the sentences which I suspect you flagged for. If there are more sentences, feel free to discuss them here. [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust\|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust\|talk]]) 10:10, 7 September 2025 (UTC)		@[[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] Hi, I saw that you added a tone warning. You did not mention which sentences, I have rephrased the sentences which I suspect you flagged for. If there are more sentences, feel free to discuss them here. [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust\|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust\|talk]]) 10:10, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

			:Hey! I noticed some of the changes you made, and it's a great job so far. That opening sentence was most notable to me since it introduces the issue and tone, so getting that opening paragraph correct is pretty crucial. However, I still notice a few other instances worth mentioning:
			:- '''"decided to"''' in the opening sentence sounds accusatory, especially given the original sentence context it was in with "against all criticism." Removing "decided" will get the point across in a much more neutral tone
			:- '''"extraordinary"''' is both subjective and non-neutral descriptor, and it should only be used in quoted statements from references if that's the source of that particular word usage. Instead, for the wiki's voice, it should be replaced with something like "price jump/hike" (or another neutral equivalent). This phrase is more quantifiable and less subjective.
			:- '''first and second person pronouns:''' in phrases like ""even if '''you''' do not use them" and "must provide '''us''' with support."
			:There are many more full-sentence instances of showing bias against Broadcom, and the overall tone of the article appears judgmental instead of neutral. More weight is going toward criticism of Broadcom instead of simply stating the facts of the case, which is completely necessary for incident articles. To get this tone notice removed, the article must be framed more objectively and fairly and should balance all sides of the argument while giving '''due weight''' to the issue at hand. More info on the [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Wiki content policies\|CRW Content Policies.]] [[User:Beanie Bo\|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo\|talk]]) 13:25, 7 September 2025 (UTC)

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2025-09-07T10:10:30Z

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@[[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] Hi, I saw that you added a tone warning. You did not mention which sentences, I have rephrased the sentences which I suspect you flagged for. If there are more sentences, feel free to discuss them here. [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust|talk]]) 10:10, 7 September 2025 (UTC)