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Rudxain: move my reply 1 level up (parent comment)

2025-11-29T22:42:37Z

move my reply 1 level up (parent comment)

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	:*''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=43wp_EUk2ho YouTube is Auto-Deleting 100% of my Comments]''		:*''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=43wp_EUk2ho YouTube is Auto-Deleting 100% of my Comments]''
	:[[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 16:28, 23 October 2025 (UTC)		:[[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 16:28, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
	::relevant: [https://youtube.com/watch?v=zxoOmntm_cY\|"The Company in this Thumbnail Supports Rape"] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 22:41, 29 November 2025 (UTC)		:relevant: [https://youtube.com/watch?v=zxoOmntm_cY\|"The Company in this Thumbnail Supports Rape"] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 22:41, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

Rudxain: /* Obscure over-moderation of comments */ Reply

2025-11-29T22:41:11Z

Obscure over-moderation of comments: Reply

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	: More sources:		:More sources:
	:* ''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=3lpPbQ8g9XE Youtube Comment Censorship - Why Your Youtube Comments Get Deleted. Comment Moderation Gone Wild]''		:*''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=3lpPbQ8g9XE Youtube Comment Censorship - Why Your Youtube Comments Get Deleted. Comment Moderation Gone Wild]''
	:* ''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=43wp_EUk2ho YouTube is Auto-Deleting 100% of my Comments]''		:*''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=43wp_EUk2ho YouTube is Auto-Deleting 100% of my Comments]''
	: [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 16:28, 23 October 2025 (UTC)		:[[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 16:28, 23 October 2025 (UTC)
			::relevant: [https://youtube.com/watch?v=zxoOmntm_cY\|"The Company in this Thumbnail Supports Rape"] [[User:Rudxain\|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain\|talk]]) 22:41, 29 November 2025 (UTC)

D-side: /* Obscure over-moderation of comments */

2025-10-24T11:50:12Z

Obscure over-moderation of comments

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	YouTube allows holding comments for review prior to publication, all or just potentially inappropriate, but this happens even on channels where neither option is enabled. Some creators report getting complaints about this behavior and finding no traces of this on channel management pages: not of the comments, not of the actions taken.{{Citation needed\|reason=Louis Rossmann posted a video of something about this at least once, if someone could please find it}}		YouTube allows holding comments for review prior to publication, all or just potentially inappropriate, but this happens even on channels where neither option is enabled. Some creators report getting complaints about this behavior and finding no traces of this on channel management pages: not of the comments, not of the actions taken.{{Citation needed\|reason=Louis Rossmann posted a video of something about this at least once, if someone could please find it}}

	YouTube's official policy states that automated removals happen when their detection systems find violations of their Community Guidelines<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Learn about comments that aren’t showing or have been removed \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13209064 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, but Guidelines' overall broadness<ref>{{Cite web \|title=YouTube's Community Guidelines \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, questionable past interpretations of Guidelines by YouTube<ref>{{Cite web \|date=2025-10-01 \|title=YouTube Took Down My ErsatzTV Tutorial as “Dangerous and Harmful”! \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/1nvjosp/youtube_took_down_my_ersatztv_tutorial_as/ \|url-status=live \|website=Reddit}}</ref> and lack of notices with specific reasons for specific deletions makes assessment of the validity of that detection difficult. [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)		YouTube's official policy states that automated removals happen when their detection systems find violations of their Community Guidelines<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Learn about comments that aren’t showing or have been removed \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13209064 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, but Guidelines' overall broadness<ref>{{Cite web \|title=YouTube's Community Guidelines \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, questionable past interpretations of Guidelines by YouTube<ref>{{Cite web \|date=2025-10-01 \|title=YouTube Took Down My ErsatzTV Tutorial as “Dangerous and Harmful”! \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/1nvjosp/youtube_took_down_my_ersatztv_tutorial_as/ \|url-status=live \|website=Reddit}}</ref> and lack of notices with specific reasons for specific deletions makes assessment of the validity of that detection difficult.

			(Feel free to edit this draft directly) [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

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JodyBruchonFan: /* Obscure over-moderation of comments */ more sources

2025-10-23T16:28:31Z

Obscure over-moderation of comments: more sources

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	YouTube's official policy states that automated removals happen when their detection systems find violations of their Community Guidelines<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Learn about comments that aren’t showing or have been removed \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13209064 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, but Guidelines' overall broadness<ref>{{Cite web \|title=YouTube's Community Guidelines \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, questionable past interpretations of Guidelines by YouTube<ref>{{Cite web \|date=2025-10-01 \|title=YouTube Took Down My ErsatzTV Tutorial as “Dangerous and Harmful”! \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/1nvjosp/youtube_took_down_my_ersatztv_tutorial_as/ \|url-status=live \|website=Reddit}}</ref> and lack of notices with specific reasons for specific deletions makes assessment of the validity of that detection difficult. [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)		YouTube's official policy states that automated removals happen when their detection systems find violations of their Community Guidelines<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Learn about comments that aren’t showing or have been removed \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13209064 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, but Guidelines' overall broadness<ref>{{Cite web \|title=YouTube's Community Guidelines \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, questionable past interpretations of Guidelines by YouTube<ref>{{Cite web \|date=2025-10-01 \|title=YouTube Took Down My ErsatzTV Tutorial as “Dangerous and Harmful”! \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/1nvjosp/youtube_took_down_my_ersatztv_tutorial_as/ \|url-status=live \|website=Reddit}}</ref> and lack of notices with specific reasons for specific deletions makes assessment of the validity of that detection difficult. [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
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			: More sources:
			:* ''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=3lpPbQ8g9XE Youtube Comment Censorship - Why Your Youtube Comments Get Deleted. Comment Moderation Gone Wild]''
			:* ''[https://preservetube.com/watch?v=43wp_EUk2ho YouTube is Auto-Deleting 100% of my Comments]''
			: [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 16:28, 23 October 2025 (UTC)

D-side: /* Inconsistent content moderation section */ Reply

2025-10-22T13:14:55Z

Inconsistent content moderation section: Reply

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	:This feels like a worthy incident we must cover but alas I lack intel on it. Could you point me towards some sources so I can find out more? These sources can help in our write-up when we do it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)		:This feels like a worthy incident we must cover but alas I lack intel on it. Could you point me towards some sources so I can find out more? These sources can help in our write-up when we do it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

	: They also took down a video by comedian SAMTIME (Sam Tucker) mocking them for Android's new restrictions: [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/dfccCB2Vz-M Android is Losing a Big Feature]. ([https://odysee.com/@samtime:1/android-is-losing-a-big-feature:e Odysee mirror]). [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 08:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)		:They also took down a video by comedian SAMTIME (Sam Tucker) mocking them for Android's new restrictions: [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/dfccCB2Vz-M Android is Losing a Big Feature]. ([https://odysee.com/@samtime:1/android-is-losing-a-big-feature:e Odysee mirror]). [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 08:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

	== Inconsistent content moderation section ==		==Inconsistent content moderation section==

	@[[User:D-side\|D-side]] Hi there, typically when we introduce new sections on the wiki, we include sources. If you are struggling to find sources, it is generally best practice to leave the concept dedicated towards the discussion tab so that once people find relevant and trustworthy sources, it can be properly integrated into our articles. I hope you understand! [[User:JamesTDG\|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG\|talk]]) 12:17, 22 October 2025 (UTC)		@[[User:D-side\|D-side]] Hi there, typically when we introduce new sections on the wiki, we include sources. If you are struggling to find sources, it is generally best practice to leave the concept dedicated towards the discussion tab so that once people find relevant and trustworthy sources, it can be properly integrated into our articles. I hope you understand! [[User:JamesTDG\|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG\|talk]]) 12:17, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

	~~== TODO~~: ~~inconsistent content moderation~~ (~~draft~~) ==		:Hi @[[User:JamesTDG\|JamesTDG]], understandable, no problem at all, undid my change and created a discussion entry out of what was previously there [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:14, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

	=== Obscure over-moderation of comments ===		==TODO: inconsistent content moderation (draft)==

			===Obscure over-moderation of comments===
	Commenters on videos sometimes encounter inconsistent behavior around availability of some of the comments they publish. Some comments go through without issue, some comments disappear immediately without notice, some disappear after a short amount of time, sometimes long enough to get a reply (which subsequently appears as a reply to nothing). Comments lost in this way are hidden from view, but apparently still exist in YouTube's system as reply counters still account for them. On rare occasions some comments are restored, up to months later, for unclear reasons.{{Citation needed\|reason=but hard to find something reputable on the subject because the behavior is so inconsistent it could be discounted as just random}}		Commenters on videos sometimes encounter inconsistent behavior around availability of some of the comments they publish. Some comments go through without issue, some comments disappear immediately without notice, some disappear after a short amount of time, sometimes long enough to get a reply (which subsequently appears as a reply to nothing). Comments lost in this way are hidden from view, but apparently still exist in YouTube's system as reply counters still account for them. On rare occasions some comments are restored, up to months later, for unclear reasons.{{Citation needed\|reason=but hard to find something reputable on the subject because the behavior is so inconsistent it could be discounted as just random}}

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	YouTube's official policy states that automated removals happen when their detection systems find violations of their Community Guidelines<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Learn about comments that aren’t showing or have been removed \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13209064 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, but Guidelines' overall broadness<ref>{{Cite web \|title=YouTube's Community Guidelines \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, questionable past interpretations of Guidelines by YouTube<ref>{{Cite web \|date=2025-10-01 \|title=YouTube Took Down My ErsatzTV Tutorial as “Dangerous and Harmful”! \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/1nvjosp/youtube_took_down_my_ersatztv_tutorial_as/ \|url-status=live \|website=Reddit}}</ref> and lack of notices with specific reasons for specific deletions makes assessment of the validity of that detection difficult. [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)		YouTube's official policy states that automated removals happen when their detection systems find violations of their Community Guidelines<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Learn about comments that aren’t showing or have been removed \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13209064 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, but Guidelines' overall broadness<ref>{{Cite web \|title=YouTube's Community Guidelines \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, questionable past interpretations of Guidelines by YouTube<ref>{{Cite web \|date=2025-10-01 \|title=YouTube Took Down My ErsatzTV Tutorial as “Dangerous and Harmful”! \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/1nvjosp/youtube_took_down_my_ersatztv_tutorial_as/ \|url-status=live \|website=Reddit}}</ref> and lack of notices with specific reasons for specific deletions makes assessment of the validity of that detection difficult. [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
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D-side: /* TODO: inconsistent content moderation (draft) */ new section

2025-10-22T13:10:14Z

TODO: inconsistent content moderation (draft): new section

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	@[[User:D-side\|D-side]] Hi there, typically when we introduce new sections on the wiki, we include sources. If you are struggling to find sources, it is generally best practice to leave the concept dedicated towards the discussion tab so that once people find relevant and trustworthy sources, it can be properly integrated into our articles. I hope you understand! [[User:JamesTDG\|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG\|talk]]) 12:17, 22 October 2025 (UTC)		@[[User:D-side\|D-side]] Hi there, typically when we introduce new sections on the wiki, we include sources. If you are struggling to find sources, it is generally best practice to leave the concept dedicated towards the discussion tab so that once people find relevant and trustworthy sources, it can be properly integrated into our articles. I hope you understand! [[User:JamesTDG\|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG\|talk]]) 12:17, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

			== TODO: inconsistent content moderation (draft) ==

			=== Obscure over-moderation of comments ===
			Commenters on videos sometimes encounter inconsistent behavior around availability of some of the comments they publish. Some comments go through without issue, some comments disappear immediately without notice, some disappear after a short amount of time, sometimes long enough to get a reply (which subsequently appears as a reply to nothing). Comments lost in this way are hidden from view, but apparently still exist in YouTube's system as reply counters still account for them. On rare occasions some comments are restored, up to months later, for unclear reasons.{{Citation needed\|reason=but hard to find something reputable on the subject because the behavior is so inconsistent it could be discounted as just random}}

			YouTube allows holding comments for review prior to publication, all or just potentially inappropriate, but this happens even on channels where neither option is enabled. Some creators report getting complaints about this behavior and finding no traces of this on channel management pages: not of the comments, not of the actions taken.{{Citation needed\|reason=Louis Rossmann posted a video of something about this at least once, if someone could please find it}}

			YouTube's official policy states that automated removals happen when their detection systems find violations of their Community Guidelines<ref>{{Cite web \|title=Learn about comments that aren’t showing or have been removed \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/13209064 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, but Guidelines' overall broadness<ref>{{Cite web \|title=YouTube's Community Guidelines \|url=https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567 \|access-date=2025-10-22 \|website=YouTube Help}}</ref>, questionable past interpretations of Guidelines by YouTube<ref>{{Cite web \|date=2025-10-01 \|title=YouTube Took Down My ErsatzTV Tutorial as “Dangerous and Harmful”! \|url=https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/1nvjosp/youtube_took_down_my_ersatztv_tutorial_as/ \|url-status=live \|website=Reddit}}</ref> and lack of notices with specific reasons for specific deletions makes assessment of the validity of that detection difficult. [[User:D-side\|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side\|talk]]) 13:10, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

JamesTDG: /* Inconsistent content moderation section */ new section

2025-10-22T12:17:14Z

Inconsistent content moderation section: new section

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	: They also took down a video by comedian SAMTIME (Sam Tucker) mocking them for Android's new restrictions: [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/dfccCB2Vz-M Android is Losing a Big Feature]. ([https://odysee.com/@samtime:1/android-is-losing-a-big-feature:e Odysee mirror]). [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 08:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)		: They also took down a video by comedian SAMTIME (Sam Tucker) mocking them for Android's new restrictions: [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/dfccCB2Vz-M Android is Losing a Big Feature]. ([https://odysee.com/@samtime:1/android-is-losing-a-big-feature:e Odysee mirror]). [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 08:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

			== Inconsistent content moderation section ==

			@[[User:D-side\|D-side]] Hi there, typically when we introduce new sections on the wiki, we include sources. If you are struggling to find sources, it is generally best practice to leave the concept dedicated towards the discussion tab so that once people find relevant and trustworthy sources, it can be properly integrated into our articles. I hope you understand! [[User:JamesTDG\|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG\|talk]]) 12:17, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

JodyBruchonFan: syntax

2025-10-09T08:58:04Z

syntax

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	:This feels like a worthy incident we must cover but alas I lack intel on it. Could you point me towards some sources so I can find out more? These sources can help in our write-up when we do it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)		:This feels like a worthy incident we must cover but alas I lack intel on it. Could you point me towards some sources so I can find out more? These sources can help in our write-up when we do it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

	: They also took down a video by comedian SAMTIME (Sam Tucker) mocking them for Android's new restrictions: [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/dfccCB2Vz-M Android is Losing a Big Feature]. ([https://odysee.com/@samtime:1/android-is-losing-a-big-feature:e Odysee mirror). [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 08:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)		: They also took down a video by comedian SAMTIME (Sam Tucker) mocking them for Android's new restrictions: [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/dfccCB2Vz-M Android is Losing a Big Feature]. ([https://odysee.com/@samtime:1/android-is-losing-a-big-feature:e Odysee mirror]). [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 08:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

JodyBruchonFan: /* Add a section on censorship */ SAMTIME video

2025-10-09T08:57:46Z

Add a section on censorship: SAMTIME video

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	:This feels like a worthy incident we must cover but alas I lack intel on it. Could you point me towards some sources so I can find out more? These sources can help in our write-up when we do it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)		:This feels like a worthy incident we must cover but alas I lack intel on it. Could you point me towards some sources so I can find out more? These sources can help in our write-up when we do it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

			: They also took down a video by comedian SAMTIME (Sam Tucker) mocking them for Android's new restrictions: [https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/dfccCB2Vz-M Android is Losing a Big Feature]. ([https://odysee.com/@samtime:1/android-is-losing-a-big-feature:e Odysee mirror). [[User:JodyBruchonFan\|JodyBruchonFan]] ([[User talk:JodyBruchonFan\|talk]]) 08:57, 9 October 2025 (UTC)

SinexTitan: /* Add a section on censorship */ Reply

2025-08-27T18:41:27Z

Add a section on censorship: Reply

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	== Add a section on censorship ==		==Add a section on censorship==

	We should probably cover the censorship of the Hong Kong protests of 2021 [[User:Revelation 13 16-17\|Revelation 13 16-17]] ([[User talk:Revelation 13 16-17\|talk]]) 02:42, 26 August 2025 (UTC)		We should probably cover the censorship of the Hong Kong protests of 2021 [[User:Revelation 13 16-17\|Revelation 13 16-17]] ([[User talk:Revelation 13 16-17\|talk]]) 02:42, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

			:This feels like a worthy incident we must cover but alas I lack intel on it. Could you point me towards some sources so I can find out more? These sources can help in our write-up when we do it. [[User:SinexTitan\|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan\|talk]]) 18:41, 27 August 2025 (UTC)