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Keith: /* Multiple improvements */ Reply

2025-11-10T01:41:00Z

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	::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::::Cool, ty. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 18:58, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::::Cool, ty. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 18:58, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::Thank you very much! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 01:41, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

Hugo9655: /* Multiple improvements */ Reply

2025-11-08T18:58:46Z

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	:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::::Cool, ty. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 18:58, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

AnotherConsumerRightsPerson: /* Multiple improvements */ Reply

2025-11-08T18:07:58Z

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	::Did you mean access to this discussion here or the tools page itself? [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::Did you mean access to this discussion here or the tools page itself? [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

AnotherConsumerRightsPerson: /* Multiple improvements */ Reply

2025-11-08T18:01:55Z

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	:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	::Hey. Didnt think to use frontends, xcancel specifically got stuck at the "verifying request" page, but another one i tried (nitter.net) works fine. Still mention twitter then, but clarify that it works best with frontends only.		::Hey. Didnt think to use frontends, xcancel specifically got stuck at the "verifying request" page, but another one i tried (nitter.net) works fine. Still mention twitter then, but clarify that it works best with frontends only.
	:: Did you mean access to this discussion here or the tools page itself? [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::Did you mean access to this discussion here or the tools page itself? [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Hugo9655: /* Multiple improvements */

2025-11-08T16:37:59Z

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	:I've changed the protection of this list such that you (and other autoconfirmed users) can edit it. The points you've made all seem reasonable!		:I've changed the protection of this list such that you (and other autoconfirmed users) can edit it. The points you've made all seem reasonable!
	:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	::Hey. Didnt think to use frontends, xcancel specifically got stuck at the "verifying request" page, but another one i tried (nitter.net) works fine. ~~You can still~~ mention twitter ~~in this case~~, but clarify that it works best with frontends only. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::Hey. Didnt think to use frontends, xcancel specifically got stuck at the "verifying request" page, but another one i tried (nitter.net) works fine. Still mention twitter then, but clarify that it works best with frontends only.
			:: Did you mean access to this discussion here or the tools page itself? [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Hugo9655 at 16:33, 8 November 2025

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	:I've changed the protection of this list such that you (and other autoconfirmed users) can edit it. The points you've made all seem reasonable!		:I've changed the protection of this list such that you (and other autoconfirmed users) can edit it. The points you've made all seem reasonable!
	:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	::Hey. Didnt think to use frontends, xcancel specifically got stuck at the "verifying request" page, but another one i tried (nitter.net) works fine. ~~I will~~ still mention twitter in this case, but clarify that it works best with frontends only.		::Hey. Didnt think to use frontends, xcancel specifically got stuck at the "verifying request" page, but another one i tried (nitter.net) works fine. You can still mention twitter in this case, but clarify that it works best with frontends only. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	~~::Thanks for the access. Ill go ahead with these changes, except point 6 for now until I have a chance to test it again~~. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Hugo9655: /* Multiple improvements */ Reply

2025-11-08T16:29:41Z

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	:I've changed the protection of this list such that you (and other autoconfirmed users) can edit it. The points you've made all seem reasonable!		:I've changed the protection of this list such that you (and other autoconfirmed users) can edit it. The points you've made all seem reasonable!
	:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			::Hey. Didnt think to use frontends, xcancel specifically got stuck at the "verifying request" page, but another one i tried (nitter.net) works fine. I will still mention twitter in this case, but clarify that it works best with frontends only.
			::Thanks for the access. Ill go ahead with these changes, except point 6 for now until I have a chance to test it again. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Keith: /* Multiple improvements */ Reply

2025-11-08T15:33:30Z

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	== Multiple improvements ==		==Multiple improvements==

	I noticed this list seems to be pretty outdated. I thought of several changes that could improve this list:		I noticed this list seems to be pretty outdated. I thought of several changes that could improve this list:

	# LocalCDN is [https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions/#-dont-bother useless] according to arkenfox dev (fingerprinting expert).		#LocalCDN is [https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions/#-dont-bother useless] according to arkenfox dev (fingerprinting expert).
	# Remove https://www.scamadviser.com/ - another one of those useless sites for determining safety. So many false positives. The highlights it produces have so much room for error, they arent accurate measurements of risk. Its more effective to report actual scams/badware sites to uAssets so it can be blocked for everyone using it.		#Remove https://www.scamadviser.com/ - another one of those useless sites for determining safety. So many false positives. The highlights it produces have so much room for error, they arent accurate measurements of risk. Its more effective to report actual scams/badware sites to uAssets so it can be blocked for everyone using it.
	# Include Triage, preferrably in front of VT, as it tends to be better. Also remove the mention of using these to scan websites. Scanning websites proves nothing and is useless for determining safety. Sticking to uBO badware lists and trusted sites in several established online wikis is the way to go.		#Include Triage, preferrably in front of VT, as it tends to be better. Also remove the mention of using these to scan websites. Scanning websites proves nothing and is useless for determining safety. Sticking to uBO badware lists and trusted sites in several established online wikis is the way to go.
	# For archive.today, the examples used are outdated, and the use of the word "excluded" isnt really meaningful. archive.today cant archive new twitter threads, but its good for reddit, and is especially useful for paywalled articles from many sites. Could be changed to "... Smaller internet archival service for unsupported IA websites (e.g: Reddit, Paywalled Articles, Facebook)". Facebook is only partially working (cant use image carousel, cant expand comment replies) so you you may or may not want to still keep that, I personally wouldnt.		#For archive.today, the examples used are outdated, and the use of the word "excluded" isnt really meaningful. archive.today cant archive new twitter threads, but its good for reddit, and is especially useful for paywalled articles from many sites. Could be changed to "... Smaller internet archival service for unsupported IA websites (e.g: Reddit, Paywalled Articles, Facebook)". Facebook is only partially working (cant use image carousel, cant expand comment replies) so you you may or may not want to still keep that, I personally wouldnt.
	# Under "dark pattern tracking" add https://privacyspy.org/ under (or above) TOSDR. Its better in some cases, so if TOSDR doesn't have what you're looking for, this might.		#Under "dark pattern tracking" add https://privacyspy.org/ under (or above) TOSDR. Its better in some cases, so if TOSDR doesn't have what you're looking for, this might.
	# Also add https://games.productartistry.com/games/dark-patterns which is another "dark pattern detective" kind of site. Havent tried it in a while, things might have changed, I know the dev was very receptive of feedback on a HN post at least. Worth testing again before adding.		#Also add https://games.productartistry.com/games/dark-patterns which is another "dark pattern detective" kind of site. Havent tried it in a while, things might have changed, I know the dev was very receptive of feedback on a HN post at least. Worth testing again before adding.

	That is all. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 13:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		That is all. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 13:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

			:I've changed the protection of this list such that you (and other autoconfirmed users) can edit it. The points you've made all seem reasonable!
			:I assume archive.today can archive twitter if you archive the xcancel.com mirror of whatever you're wanting to archive on twitter? [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 15:33, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Hugo9655: /* Multiple improvements */

2025-11-08T13:41:41Z

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	# LocalCDN is [https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions/#-dont-bother useless] according to arkenfox dev (fingerprinting expert).		# LocalCDN is [https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions/#-dont-bother useless] according to arkenfox dev (fingerprinting expert).
	# Remove https://www.scamadviser.com/ - another one of those useless sites for determining safety. So many false positives. The highlights it produces have so much room for error, they arent accurate measurements of risk. Its ~~better~~ to report actual scams/badware sites to uAssets so it can be blocked for everyone using it.		# Remove https://www.scamadviser.com/ - another one of those useless sites for determining safety. So many false positives. The highlights it produces have so much room for error, they arent accurate measurements of risk. Its more effective to report actual scams/badware sites to uAssets so it can be blocked for everyone using it.
	# Include Triage, preferrably in front of VT, as it tends to be better. Also remove the mention of using these to scan websites. Scanning websites proves nothing and is useless for determining safety. Sticking to uBO badware lists and trusted sites in several established online wikis is the way to go.		# Include Triage, preferrably in front of VT, as it tends to be better. Also remove the mention of using these to scan websites. Scanning websites proves nothing and is useless for determining safety. Sticking to uBO badware lists and trusted sites in several established online wikis is the way to go.
	# For archive.today, the examples used are outdated, and the use of the word "excluded" isnt really meaningful. archive.today cant archive new twitter threads, but its good for reddit, and is especially useful for paywalled articles from many sites. Could be changed to "... Smaller internet archival service for unsupported IA websites (e.g: Reddit, Paywalled Articles, Facebook)". Facebook is only partially working (cant use image carousel, cant expand comment replies) so you you may or may not want to still keep that, I personally wouldnt.		# For archive.today, the examples used are outdated, and the use of the word "excluded" isnt really meaningful. archive.today cant archive new twitter threads, but its good for reddit, and is especially useful for paywalled articles from many sites. Could be changed to "... Smaller internet archival service for unsupported IA websites (e.g: Reddit, Paywalled Articles, Facebook)". Facebook is only partially working (cant use image carousel, cant expand comment replies) so you you may or may not want to still keep that, I personally wouldnt.

Hugo9655: /* Multiple improvements */ new section

2025-11-08T13:39:48Z

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== Multiple improvements ==

I noticed this list seems to be pretty outdated. I thought of several changes that could improve this list:

# LocalCDN is [https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/wiki/4.1-Extensions/#-dont-bother useless] according to arkenfox dev (fingerprinting expert).
# Remove https://www.scamadviser.com/ - another one of those useless sites for determining safety. So many false positives. The highlights it produces have so much room for error, they arent accurate measurements of risk. Its better to report actual scams/badware sites to uAssets so it can be blocked for everyone using it.
# Include Triage, preferrably in front of VT, as it tends to be better. Also remove the mention of using these to scan websites. Scanning websites proves nothing and is useless for determining safety. Sticking to uBO badware lists and trusted sites in several established online wikis is the way to go.
# For archive.today, the examples used are outdated, and the use of the word "excluded" isnt really meaningful. archive.today cant archive new twitter threads, but its good for reddit, and is especially useful for paywalled articles from many sites. Could be changed to "... Smaller internet archival service for unsupported IA websites (e.g: Reddit, Paywalled Articles, Facebook)". Facebook is only partially working (cant use image carousel, cant expand comment replies) so you you may or may not want to still keep that, I personally wouldnt.
# Under "dark pattern tracking" add https://privacyspy.org/ under (or above) TOSDR. Its better in some cases, so if TOSDR doesn't have what you're looking for, this might.
# Also add https://games.productartistry.com/games/dark-patterns which is another "dark pattern detective" kind of site. Havent tried it in a while, things might have changed, I know the dev was very receptive of feedback on a HN post at least. Worth testing again before adding.

That is all. [[User:Hugo9655|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655|talk]]) 13:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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	::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::::Cool, ty. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 18:58, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::::Cool, ty. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 18:58, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::Thank you very much! [[User:Keith\|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith\|talk]]) 01:41, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

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	:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			:::::Cool, ty. [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 18:58, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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	::Did you mean access to this discussion here or the tools page itself? [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		::Did you mean access to this discussion here or the tools page itself? [[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] ([[User talk:Hugo9655\|talk]]) 16:29, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
	:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)		:::@[[User:Keith\|Keith]] that won't work as cascading protection is turned on for the main page, which means that everything transcluded there won't be editable too like the main page no matter the protection settings. I'll fix it now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:01, 8 November 2025 (UTC)
			::::@[[User:Hugo9655\|Hugo9655]] should work now [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson\|talk]]) 18:07, 8 November 2025 (UTC)