User:Rudxain/Unix - Revision history

Rudxain: re-link Microslop "properly" lol

2026-04-26T03:15:21Z

re-link Microslop "properly" lol

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	Welcome to my page about [[wikipedia:Unix-like\|anything Unix]]! Here you can learn about [[wikipedia:Linux\|Linux]], [[Android]], and maybe even [[wikipedia:RedoxOS\|Redox]] and [[wikipedia:Berkeley_Software_Distribution\|BSD]].		Welcome to my page about [[wikipedia:Unix-like\|anything Unix]]! Here you can learn about [[wikipedia:Linux\|Linux]], [[Android]], and maybe even [[wikipedia:RedoxOS\|Redox]] and [[wikipedia:Berkeley_Software_Distribution\|BSD]].

	The purpose of this page is to raise awareness about [[wikipedia:Operating_system\|OSes]] that respect their users, and to propose them as alts for [[Microsoft Windows\|~~Microslop~~ Winbloats]] and [[Apple macOS\|Crapintosh]]. I know there are non-nix systems that also honor their users, but "Unices" are more standard (both in practice, and [[wikipedia:POSIX\|in theory]]), so it's more pragmatic to recommend nix.		The purpose of this page is to raise awareness about [[wikipedia:Operating_system\|OSes]] that respect their users, and to propose them as alts for [[User:Rudxain/Microslop\|Microslop]] [[Microsoft Windows\|Winbloats]] and [[Apple macOS\|Crapintosh]]. I know there are non-nix systems that also honor their users, but "Unices" are more standard (both in practice, and [[wikipedia:POSIX\|in theory]]), so it's more pragmatic to recommend nix.

	==Why Unix?==		==Why Unix?==

Rudxain: what to do with compressed docs

2026-04-21T18:56:15Z

what to do with compressed docs

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	==Usage==		==Usage==
	Your distro (and most installed packages) should have docs available locally as [[wikipedia:Man_page\|<code>man</code>-pages]] or in <code>/usr/share/doc/</code>. Most DEs have a "Welcome" app that auto-starts on first login, so you should be good to go.		Your distro (and most installed packages) should have docs available locally as [[wikipedia:Man_page\|<code>man</code>-pages]] or in <code>/usr/share/doc/</code>. Most DEs have a "Welcome" app that auto-starts on first login, so you should be good to go. If you encounter a compressed text file, such as <code>README.md.gz</code>, you can open it in any [[wikipedia:Terminal_pager\|pager]]-like program (including text-editors, like [https://helix-editor.com/ Helix]) by running a command like <code>zcat README.md.gz \| less</code>.

	And please:		And please:

Rudxain at 18:42, 21 April 2026

2026-04-21T18:42:33Z

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	===Android===		===Android===
	If you need Android but your [[List of phones that do not allow bootloader unlock\|BL is perma-locked]], you can install [[wikipedia:Termux\|Termux]], as it's more lightweight than a [[wikipedia:Virtual_machine\|VM]]. If your [[Bootloader unlocking\|BL is unlocked]], then try installing a [[wikipedia:List_of_custom_Android_distributions\|custom "ROM"]] (I hate that term ~~so much. It~~'s clearly a [[wikipedia:Misnomer\|misnomer]]). List of suggestions:		If you need Android but your [[List of phones that do not allow bootloader unlock\|BL is perma-locked]], you can install [[wikipedia:Termux\|Termux]], as it's more lightweight than a [[wikipedia:Virtual_machine\|VM]]. If your [[Bootloader unlocking\|BL is unlocked]], then try installing a [[wikipedia:List_of_custom_Android_distributions\|custom "ROM"]] (I hate that term, it's clearly a [[wikipedia:Misnomer\|misnomer]]). List of suggestions:

	*[[GrapheneOS\|Graphene]]		*[[GrapheneOS\|Graphene]]
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	I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Evans \|first=Julia \|title=Reasons I still love the fish shell \|url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|archive-date=2026-03-04 \|access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref>(source correction: Bash has [[wikipedia:Bracketed-paste\|bracketed-paste]] by default) simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])		I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Evans \|first=Julia \|title=Reasons I still love the fish shell \|url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|archive-date=2026-03-04 \|access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref>(source correction: Bash has [[wikipedia:Bracketed-paste\|bracketed-paste]] by default) simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])

	Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too ~~weird for me, very~~ "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]", lol.		Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]" for me, lol.

	==Usage==		==Usage==

Rudxain: COSMIC mention!

2026-04-21T18:33:31Z

COSMIC mention!

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	Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:		Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:

			*[[wikipedia:COSMIC_desktop\|COSMIC]], which looks promising!
	*[[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)\|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint		*[[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)\|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint
	*There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce\|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint\|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate\|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}		*There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce\|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint\|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate\|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}

Rudxain: GUI-use -> GUI-impl; calc-keys are big

2026-04-21T18:18:03Z

GUI-use -> GUI-impl; calc-keys are big

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	IMO, the "holy war" of GUI vs TUI is pointless, both excel at different things. I typically use this example:<!-- Please suggest better examples, lol -->		IMO, the "holy war" of GUI vs TUI is pointless, both excel at different things. I typically use this example:<!-- Please suggest better examples, lol -->

	* A camera app is clearly better as a GUI. Real-time photo-previews are one of the main reasons why digital cameras made film-based cameras "obsolete".		*A camera app is clearly better as a GUI. Real-time photo-previews are one of the main reasons why digital cameras made film-based cameras "obsolete".
	* A calculator app is better as a TUI (unless it's a graphing-calc), because you're not limited by a custom keyboard. Also, most TUI calculators (such as <code>[[wikipedia:Bc_(programming_language)\|bc]]</code>) support looping and conditional constructs. And you're dealing with mostly-alphanumeric data anyways, so a GUI would feel "forced" and inconsistent.		*A calculator app is better as a TUI (unless it's a graphing-calc), because you're not limited by a custom keyboard (unless you're using a tiny touchscreen, because custom keyboards have bigger keys). Also, most TUI calculators (such as <code>[[wikipedia:Bc_(programming_language)\|bc]]</code>) support looping and conditional constructs. And you're dealing with mostly-alphanumeric data anyways, so a GUI would feel "forced" and inconsistent.

	Personally, I have a preference for TUIs, simply because they tend to not be bloated. But I love GUIs when they're ~~used~~ properly!		Personally, I have a preference for TUIs, simply because they tend to not be bloated. But I love GUIs when they're implemented properly!

	==External links==		==External links==

Rudxain: TUI and GUI are both optional and good! also Oils-shill warning, lol

2026-04-21T18:11:15Z

TUI and GUI are both optional and good! also Oils-shill warning, lol

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	*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator\|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise~~. Although even then, if you use Mint or another user-friendly distro, you might not even need to touch the terminal~~.		*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator\|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise.
	*Don't be afraid of CLI apps!<ref>https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-GUI</ref><ref>https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line</ref> Except <code>rm</code>, that one is dangerous unless you add <code>[https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/rm.html#:~:text=%2Di,-Prompt -i]</code>. See [https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#I-used-rm-to-remove-a-file_002e-How-can-I-get-it-back-now_003f how to recover deleted files].		*Don't be afraid of CLI apps!<ref>https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-GUI</ref><ref>https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line</ref> Except <code>rm</code>, that one is dangerous unless you add <code>[https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/rm.html#:~:text=%2Di,-Prompt -i]</code>. See [https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#I-used-rm-to-remove-a-file_002e-How-can-I-get-it-back-now_003f how to recover deleted files].
	*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell\|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>{{Cite web \|date=2024-10-05 \|title=Feature suggestion: Warnings regarding (automatic) recursive indirection/eval within \[\[ (( and $(( blocks \|url=https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260420003136/https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 \|archive-date=2026-04-20 \|access-date=2026-04-19 \|website=GitHub}}</ref> I use Bash daily but I recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils].		*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell\|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>{{Cite web \|date=2024-10-05 \|title=Feature suggestion: Warnings regarding (automatic) recursive indirection/eval within \[\[ (( and $(( blocks \|url=https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260420003136/https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 \|archive-date=2026-04-20 \|access-date=2026-04-19 \|website=GitHub}}</ref> I use Bash daily but I'd recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils] ([[wikipedia:Shill\|shill]] alert!).
			It's fine if you're not used to [[wikipedia:Text-based_user_interface\|TUIs]], don't feel pressured. Depending on the distro you choose (e.g. Mint), TUIs aren't required at all.

			Like many things in life, it might take you time to get comfortable with a different way to do things, this would be the case if you've been using TUIs your entire life and encountered a GUI. Arguably, GUIs tend to be more intuitive (on average) for most tasks, but TUIs can sometimes be more user-friendly than GUIs!

			IMO, the "holy war" of GUI vs TUI is pointless, both excel at different things. I typically use this example:<!-- Please suggest better examples, lol -->

			* A camera app is clearly better as a GUI. Real-time photo-previews are one of the main reasons why digital cameras made film-based cameras "obsolete".
			* A calculator app is better as a TUI (unless it's a graphing-calc), because you're not limited by a custom keyboard. Also, most TUI calculators (such as <code>[[wikipedia:Bc_(programming_language)\|bc]]</code>) support looping and conditional constructs. And you're dealing with mostly-alphanumeric data anyways, so a GUI would feel "forced" and inconsistent.

			Personally, I have a preference for TUIs, simply because they tend to not be bloated. But I love GUIs when they're used properly!

	==External links==		==External links==

Rudxain: errata for jvns

2026-04-20T01:15:01Z

errata for jvns

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	Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)\|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline\|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell\|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)\|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>		Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)\|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline\|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell\|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)\|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>

	I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Evans \|first=Julia \|title=Reasons I still love the fish shell \|url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|archive-date=2026-03-04 \|access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref> simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])		I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Evans \|first=Julia \|title=Reasons I still love the fish shell \|url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|archive-date=2026-03-04 \|access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref>(source correction: Bash has [[wikipedia:Bracketed-paste\|bracketed-paste]] by default) simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])

	Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]", lol.		Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]", lol.

Rudxain: improve SC citation

2026-04-20T01:07:34Z

improve SC citation

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	*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator\|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise. Although even then, if you use Mint or another user-friendly distro, you might not even need to touch the terminal.		*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator\|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise. Although even then, if you use Mint or another user-friendly distro, you might not even need to touch the terminal.
	*Don't be afraid of CLI apps!<ref>https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-GUI</ref><ref>https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line</ref> Except <code>rm</code>, that one is dangerous unless you add <code>[https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/rm.html#:~:text=%2Di,-Prompt -i]</code>. See [https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#I-used-rm-to-remove-a-file_002e-How-can-I-get-it-back-now_003f how to recover deleted files].		*Don't be afraid of CLI apps!<ref>https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-GUI</ref><ref>https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line</ref> Except <code>rm</code>, that one is dangerous unless you add <code>[https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/rm.html#:~:text=%2Di,-Prompt -i]</code>. See [https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#I-used-rm-to-remove-a-file_002e-How-can-I-get-it-back-now_003f how to recover deleted files].
	*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell\|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067</ref> I use Bash daily but I recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils].		*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell\|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>{{Cite web \|date=2024-10-05 \|title=Feature suggestion: Warnings regarding (automatic) recursive indirection/eval within \[\[ (( and $(( blocks \|url=https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260420003136/https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 \|archive-date=2026-04-20 \|access-date=2026-04-19 \|website=GitHub}}</ref> I use Bash daily but I recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils].

	==External links==		==External links==

Rudxain: ref jvns on why Fish is good

2026-04-20T00:21:48Z

ref jvns on why Fish is good

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	Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)\|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline\|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell\|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)\|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>		Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)\|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline\|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell\|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)\|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>

	I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh, simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])		I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Evans \|first=Julia \|title=Reasons I still love the fish shell \|url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|archive-date=2026-03-04 \|access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref> simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])

	Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]", lol.		Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]", lol.

Rudxain: like->prefer

2026-04-19T23:55:53Z

like->prefer

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	There are 2 major options:		There are 2 major options:

	*If you ~~like~~ non-[[wikt:clutter\|cluttered]] [[wikipedia:User_interface\|UIs]], choose [[wikipedia:GNOME\|GNOME]]		*If you prefer non-[[wikt:clutter\|cluttered]] [[wikipedia:User_interface\|UIs]], choose [[wikipedia:GNOME\|GNOME]]
	*If you ~~like~~ [[wikt:versatile\|versatility]] and [[wikipedia:Ergonomics\|ergonomics]], choose [[wikipedia:KDE_Plasma\|KDE Plasma]]		*If you prefer [[wikt:versatile\|versatility]] and [[wikipedia:Ergonomics\|ergonomics]], choose [[wikipedia:KDE_Plasma\|KDE Plasma]]

	Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:		Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:

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	Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)\|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline\|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell\|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)\|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>		Let's be honest, [[wikipedia:Bash_(Unix_shell)\|Bash]] and [[wikipedia:GNU_Readline\|Readline]] have '''terrible defaults'''. No wonder [[wikipedia:Z_shell\|Zsh]] and [[wikipedia:Fish_(Unix_shell)\|Fish]] are so popular. HOWEVER, let me be clear that Bash can approximate the ergonomics of Zsh ''really well'', given that you configure it properly.<ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/inputrc</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.config/sh/rc#L24-L28</ref><ref>https://github.com/Rudxain/dotfiles/blob/d02045700129609f2c6dfa91ebf9a54a9d81b012/.bashrc#L5-L10</ref>

	I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Evans \|first=Julia \|title=Reasons I still love the fish shell \|url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|archive-date=2026-03-04 \|access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref> simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])		I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Evans \|first=Julia \|title=Reasons I still love the fish shell \|url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|url-status=live \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ \|archive-date=2026-03-04 \|access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref>(source correction: Bash has [[wikipedia:Bracketed-paste\|bracketed-paste]] by default) simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])

	Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]", lol.		Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell\|PowerShelly]]", lol.