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== Deletion requests ==

==Deletion requests==

Hi, can you take at the current [[:Category:Articles marked for deletion|articles marked for deletion]]? Here are some notes on why some of them have been marked for deletion:

* DRM (online), there already is a main DRM article

*DRM (online), there already is a main DRM article

* EU Consumer protection laws, there are separate pages for laws, including these so it does not need its own page currently, the page is also empty

*EU Consumer protection laws, there are separate pages for laws, including these so it does not need its own page currently, the page is also empty

* Motorola phones, there already is a main Motorola article

*Motorola phones, there already is a main Motorola article

[[User:InTransparencyWeTrust|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust|talk]]) 13:32, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

:I went through the articles you added, I have left the DRM on with a deletion notice for now since we need to clarify a bit the policy on the time we allow before acting on the deletion. The motorola phones one I added a merge request because it seems like something that could be added to the page if someone worked on it.

:Btw could you use the [[Template:DeletionRequest|deletion request template]] to mark pages like these? It's not a major deal but it helps to add the reasoning and the garbage template is technically supposed to be used after moderators determine the page is supposed to be deleted, the links to it are resolved (and put in a list of articles to go through and delete periodically). [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 20:23, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you, and yes they should have been deletion requests I see [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust|talk]]) 20:31, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

:::No worries, it's a breakdown on the communication of the process not your fault [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 20:37, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

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I will put an indefinite block on the alt tommorow.

I respect your not wanting to use discord but focus on wiki topics when using the talk pages.

==Wiki suggestions==

Hello! Since Discord is down currently, I have 2 concerns I would like to bring up:

1. I feel that the new default font is too small compared to the previous.

2. Should there be a "Positive companies" category? I noticed the "Examples of positive consumer practices" category was recently replaced.

Let me know what you think! [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 19:19, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

:Hey @[[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]], I completely missed the discord down time but I will reply here anyway.

:#I tried to change the auxiliary text to be a bit larger earlier today. If you feel the size in the content itself is too small can you try using the appearance tab to bump up the text size to Standard (or Large ?) . It should be either in the right sidebar or hidden in an icon next to your username. Mediawiki defaults to small for some reason and it is indeed quite tiny. If the text still seems small we can revisit and change to a different font (or look for a way to make everthing larger. Sadly this is not as straightforward as it seems but I promise we will give it a shot.

:#I will copy and paste the update I posted on discord "I think categorization of companies should remain more subjective with the existing subcategories in order to help keep a more neutral approach and avoid good/bad categorization and translating the categorization as wiki "endorsement"" . So in my opinion no, positive companie should not exist, but we can revisit with @[[User:Keith|Keith]] either here or on discord if you feel differently.

:Thank you very much for the feedback, its very much appreciated (as are your contributions of course. [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 19:58, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for letting me know! I understand with #2 that the category may seem as an endorsement. Though I cannot find a text size option under the appearance tab for my preferences. '''UPDATE:''' after typing this I noticed the text was changed and it is better than before, as everything was spaced out. Unfortunately it seems that is still the case for logged-out users. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 22:26, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

:::[[File:Text size options.png|alt=screenshot showing the options for text size in the sidebar|thumb|Options for text size in the sidebar]]

:::[[File:Submenu for text size options.png|alt=Screenshot showing options for text size when moved to submenu|thumb|Options for text size when moved to submenu]]

:::The settings I am reffering to are not in your preferences page. Is the Appearance dialog not present to the right of all pages (see image on the right) ? If it is not it may be up next to your username in a menu next to your username(see second image on the right). These affect the content and not the other elements but they should be available for all users (logged in or not). The default size is small for some reason and I cannot find a configuration option to change it. I could bump everything up but then users with other fonts may be negatiely affected (the font is set differently depending on the device used and font availability in browser right now). [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 09:54, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

::::I cannot find either appearance section when refreshing. I even tried searching in the webpage source for "appearance" and "small", but it does not appear. I can see the glasses in Edge and the Appearance side bar when logged out of Firefox, but not when I'm logged in after deleting my cookies (when I log in, the right side disappears and the main article gets larger). [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 19:34, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

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-== Deletion requests ==
+==Deletion requests==
 Hi, can you take at the current [[:Category:Articles marked for deletion|articles marked for deletion]]? Here are some notes on why some of them have been marked for deletion:
-* DRM (online), there already is a main DRM article
+*DRM (online), there already is a main DRM article
-* EU Consumer protection laws, there are separate pages for laws, including these so it does not need its own page currently, the page is also empty
+*EU Consumer protection laws, there are separate pages for laws, including these so it does not need its own page currently, the page is also empty
-* Motorola phones, there already is a main Motorola article
+*Motorola phones, there already is a main Motorola article
 [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust|talk]]) 13:32, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
+:I went through the articles you added, I have left the DRM on with a deletion notice for now since we need to clarify a bit the policy on the time we allow before acting on the deletion. The motorola phones one I added a merge request because it seems like something that could be added to the page if someone worked on it.
+:Btw could you use the [[Template:DeletionRequest|deletion request template]] to mark pages like these? It's not a major deal but it helps to add the reasoning and the garbage template is technically supposed to be used after moderators determine the page is supposed to be deleted, the links to it are resolved (and put in a list of articles to go through and delete periodically).  [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 20:23, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
+::Thank you, and yes they should have been deletion requests I see [[User:InTransparencyWeTrust|InTransparencyWeTrust]] ([[User talk:InTransparencyWeTrust|talk]]) 20:31, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
+:::No worries, it's a breakdown on the communication of the process not your fault [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 20:37, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
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          I will put an indefinite block on the alt tommorow.
          I respect your not wanting to use discord but focus on wiki topics when using the talk pages.
+==Wiki suggestions==
+Hello! Since Discord is down currently, I have 2 concerns I would like to bring up:
+. I feel that the new default font is too small compared to the previous.
+. Should there be a "Positive companies" category? I noticed the "Examples of positive consumer practices" category was recently replaced.
+Let me know what you think! [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 19:19, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
+:Hey @[[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]], I completely missed the discord down time but I will reply here anyway.
+:#I tried to change the auxiliary text to be a bit larger earlier today. If you feel the size in the content itself is too small can you try using the appearance tab to bump up the text size to Standard (or Large ?) . It should be either in the right sidebar or hidden in an icon next to your username. Mediawiki defaults to small for some reason and it is indeed quite tiny. If the text still seems small  we can revisit and change to a different font (or look for a way to make everthing larger. Sadly this is not as straightforward as it seems but I promise we will give it a shot.
+:#I will copy and paste the update I posted on discord "I think categorization of companies should remain more subjective with the existing subcategories in order to help keep a more neutral approach and avoid good/bad categorization and translating the categorization as wiki "endorsement"" . So in my opinion no, positive companie should not exist, but we can revisit with @[[User:Keith|Keith]] either here or on discord if you feel differently.
+:Thank you very much for the feedback, its very much appreciated (as are your contributions of course. [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 19:58, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
+::Thanks for letting me know! I understand with #2 that the category may seem as an endorsement. Though I cannot find a text size option under the appearance tab for my preferences. '''UPDATE:''' after typing this I noticed the text was changed and it is better than before, as everything was spaced out. Unfortunately it seems that is still the case for logged-out users. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 22:26, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
+:::[[File:Text size options.png|alt=screenshot showing the options for text size in the sidebar|thumb|Options for text size in the sidebar]]
+:::[[File:Submenu for text size options.png|alt=Screenshot showing options for text size when moved to submenu|thumb|Options for text size when moved to submenu]]
+:::The settings I am reffering to are not in your preferences page. Is the Appearance dialog not present to the right of all pages (see image on the right) ? If it is not it may be up next to your username in a menu next to your username(see second image on the right). These affect the content and not the other elements but they should be available for all users (logged in or not). The default size is small for some reason and I cannot find a configuration option to change it. I could bump everything up but then users with other fonts may be negatiely affected (the font is set differently depending on the device used and font availability in browser right now). [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 09:54, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
+::::I cannot find either appearance section when refreshing. I even tried searching in the webpage source for "appearance" and "small", but it does not appear. I can see the glasses in Edge and the Appearance side bar when logged out of Firefox, but not when I'm logged in after deleting my cookies (when I log in, the right side disappears and the main article gets larger). [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 19:34, 11 March 2025 (UTC)