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I would recommend changing it to something that is more accessible especially to people who speak English as a second language. For example, "Hidden/Questionable EULA terms".

:Its use is meant to invoke a visceral response to the violation an actual roofie (the slipping of a drug to an unknown party) usually precedes, to put them on an equal level of reprehensible. I agree that the turn of phrase LR uses both can confuse those not knowing the origin of the slang, or risks being handled very indelicately at some point. <u>I was thinking that perhaps we could maybe convince LR to use a Darth Vader v Lando Calrissian themed example.</u> 1, its understanding is probably would be more widespread being Star Wars and all, and 2, it survives polite conversation tones much more readily. [[User:MadMallard|MadMallard]] ([[User talk:MadMallard|talk]]) 00:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

=Is the term consistent with the "Granny Rule" in the mission statement?=

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Agree. I propose that article should be reworded. EULA Roofie can be referred to as a colloquialism, and its meaning explained, but it should not be the main title or reference term for this Theme. Discussion here about an appropriate alternative is welcomed! -Keith

I second that. I've heard EULA Rugpull floating around, but I'd suggest Term Spiking Heres my terms list I've been working on:

Agreement Abuse

├── License Laundering (ownership undermining)

│ └── Converting purchases to licenses

│ └── Revoking perpetual rights

│ └── Redefining ownership terms

│

├── Feature Ransom (functionality hostaging)

│ └── Blocking core functionality

│ └── Converting features to services

│ └── Requiring new agreements for use

│

├── Term Spiking (stealth changes)

│ ├── Silent Updates

│ ├── Buried Changes

│ └── Version Obfuscation

│

├── Legal Lockout (rights obstruction)

│ └── Arbitration requirements

│ └── Class action restrictions

│ └── Jurisdiction control

│

├── Rights Stripping (systematic removal)

│ └── Warranty elimination

│ └── Usage restriction

│ └── Remedy blocking

│

└── Service Siphoning (forced conversion)

└── Subscription forcing

└── Feature reclassification

└── Access degradation

-Travis

=Should this be replaced with something more internationally applicable?=

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Is it spelled EULA roofieing or is there a different way to actually spell it?

[[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 22:22, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Reply to JamesTDG. It is spelled "EULA roofying." Perhaps the title of the article should be changed from "EULA roofie" to "EULA Roofying-" [[User:I_Will_Not_Use_Discord|I_Will_Not_Use_Discord]]

= Merge suggestion =

This seems to be roughly a duplicate of [[Post-purchase EULA modification]]. Indeed, that article says <q>Post-purchase End User Licence Agreement (EULA) modification, colloquially referred to as the ‘EULA Roofie’</q>, which suggests that the two articles refer to the same thing. I think the two articles ought to be merged. "EULA roofie" is probably a lot less professional and should not be the chosen title retained for the merge.

This seems to be roughly a duplicate of [[Post-purchase EULA modification]]. Indeed, that article says <q>Post-purchase End User Licence Agreement (EULA) modification, colloquially referred to as the ‘EULA Roofie’</q>, which suggests that the two articles refer to the same thing. I think the two articles ought to be merged. "EULA roofie" is probably a lot less professional and should not be the chosen title retained for the merge.[[User:Mingyee|Mingyee]] ([[User talk:Mingyee|talk]]) 15:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

== Image is too large ==

I understand the desire to have a complete picture for reference, but having to do a ''lot'' of scrolling to reach the bottom is a negative experience for any user. It should be broken up into multiple parts. -- [[User:Sojourna|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna|talk]]) 18:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

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 I would recommend changing it to something that is more accessible especially to people who speak English as a second language. For example, "Hidden/Questionable EULA terms".
+:Its use is meant to invoke a visceral response to the violation an actual roofie (the slipping of a drug to an unknown party) usually precedes, to put them on an equal level of reprehensible.  I agree that the turn of phrase LR uses both can confuse those not knowing the origin of the slang, or risks being handled very indelicately at some point.   <u>I was thinking that perhaps we could maybe convince LR to use a Darth Vader v Lando Calrissian themed example.</u> 1, its understanding is probably would be more widespread being Star Wars and all, and 2, it survives polite conversation tones much more readily. [[User:MadMallard|MadMallard]] ([[User talk:MadMallard|talk]]) 00:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
 =Is the term consistent with the "Granny Rule" in the mission statement?=
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      Agree. I propose that article should be reworded. EULA Roofie can be referred to as a colloquialism, and its meaning explained, but it should not be the main title or reference term for this Theme. Discussion here about an appropriate alternative is welcomed!  -Keith
+    I second that. I've heard EULA Rugpull floating around, but I'd suggest Term Spiking Heres my terms list I've been working on:
+    Agreement Abuse
+    ├── License Laundering (ownership undermining)
+    │   └── Converting purchases to licenses
+    │   └── Revoking perpetual rights
+    │   └── Redefining ownership terms
+    │
+    ├── Feature Ransom (functionality hostaging)
+    │   └── Blocking core functionality
+    │   └── Converting features to services
+    │   └── Requiring new agreements for use
+    │
+    ├── Term Spiking (stealth changes)
+    │   ├── Silent Updates
+    │   ├── Buried Changes
+    │   └── Version Obfuscation
+    │
+    ├── Legal Lockout (rights obstruction)
+    │   └── Arbitration requirements
+    │   └── Class action restrictions
+    │   └── Jurisdiction control
+    │
+    ├── Rights Stripping (systematic removal)
+    │   └── Warranty elimination
+    │   └── Usage restriction
+    │   └── Remedy blocking
+    │
+    └── Service Siphoning (forced conversion)
+        └── Subscription forcing
+        └── Feature reclassification
+        └── Access degradation
+    -Travis
 =Should this be replaced with something more internationally applicable?=
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 Is it spelled EULA roofieing or is there a different way to actually spell it?
 [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 22:22, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
+Reply to JamesTDG. It is spelled "EULA roofying." Perhaps the title of the article should be changed from "EULA roofie" to "EULA Roofying-" [[User:I_Will_Not_Use_Discord|I_Will_Not_Use_Discord]]
 = Merge suggestion =
-This seems to be roughly a duplicate of [[Post-purchase EULA modification]]. Indeed, that article says <q>Post-purchase End User Licence Agreement (EULA) modification, colloquially referred to as the ‘EULA Roofie’</q>, which suggests that the two articles refer to the same thing. I think the two articles ought to be merged. "EULA roofie" is probably a lot less professional and should not be the chosen title retained for the merge.
+This seems to be roughly a duplicate of [[Post-purchase EULA modification]]. Indeed, that article says <q>Post-purchase End User Licence Agreement (EULA) modification, colloquially referred to as the ‘EULA Roofie’</q>, which suggests that the two articles refer to the same thing. I think the two articles ought to be merged. "EULA roofie" is probably a lot less professional and should not be the chosen title retained for the merge.[[User:Mingyee|Mingyee]] ([[User talk:Mingyee|talk]]) 15:54, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
+== Image is too large ==
+I understand the desire to have a complete picture for reference, but having to do a ''lot'' of scrolling to reach the bottom is a negative experience for any user. It should be broken up into multiple parts. -- [[User:Sojourna|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna|talk]]) 18:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)