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::::Noted. It would be great if there was a regular draft function like in almost every software. (So this doesn’t happen to other new users after their first contribution.) Honestly, after you deleted it, it felt like my contribution is unwanted. [[User:Slab Man|Slab Man]] ([[User talk:Slab Man|talk]]) 04:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

:::::That's fair enough - we should add some more text to the article creation flow which explains how user space works, how to make a draft article, and what the policy for handling new articles is. If you'd like, I can get the text from the deleted article and put it on your user talk page or something so you can pick it up from where you left off? [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:37, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

::::::Thank you that would be great. Looking forward to helping out! [[User:Slab Man|Slab Man]] ([[User talk:Slab Man|talk]]) 18:32, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

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:Done! [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 08:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

==Question about re-use of sources for LiveView Article==

Hey Keith,

I noticed that for the [[LiveView Technologies AI Surveillance]] article, the same source has been re-used multiple times but shows up with a different citation number. Namely the citations number 6,32, and 33 are duplicates of 4 (LVT Use Cases in Law Enforcement), 14 is a duplicate of 5 (AI-Driven Mobile Security for Every Threat), 35 is a duplicate of 8 (Fusion Centers), and 21 is a duplicate of 20 (Mobile cameras deployed at Monroe County Office Building amid security concerns)

Also the links are missing the archive URLs in the references and some don't have author first and last name or date where they are available on the site or the date is incorrect.

I have a version of the article which shrinks the list of references (citation 33 is now a re-use of citation 4 for that section for example) and also has the relevant archive links and names and dates for each reference where possible.

Should I commit the change? I know that this article may be looked at be people very soon and I'd rather get your approval to change it and have you ready to roll-back or append to it in case you don't like it. [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 18:47, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

:I think I'm going to commit the change now, you're free to revert it or check it over in case I messed something up. In the event this article is mentioned at City hall on Thursday, I want it to be the best it can be.

:Thank you for helping with the wiki. [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 19:03, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you! and yeah, if you notice small formating issues (especially with an article louis has been working on :P ) just go ahead and make the change - that's the way of the wiki! [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 19:41, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

:::Small formatting issues or other non-obvious things like referencing problems* [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 19:41, 26 August 2025 (UTC)

==Proposal to add a section for organized meetings. (might be a better name for this)==

Hey Keith, I hope I'm not posting here again too early.

I thought about how every time Louis wants to generate interest for a particular issue with regards to getting viewers to organize, most of the time he has to do a video on it and these calls for organization when fighting for a particular issue (such as LVT tomorrow) are based in the United States.

I don't know if this already exists on the wiki (if it does, i'd like to know where it is), but do you think it would be a good idea to create a page specifically for posting the dates and instructions for showing up to demonstrations or hearings for the purposes of pushing back against anti-consumer or anti-privacy related issues? (This could be world-wide).

If someone from the UK for example wanted to organize a demonstration or have people speak at or attend an open council meeting, they would edit a row of a wiki table and list the time of the demonstration, an additional page describing the instructions or requirements to attend, and the issue that will be talked about (similar to rossmanngroup.com/clippyone).

I feel that with something like this, organizing both members of the public and members of the wiki regardless of country would be much easier and could provide a centralized and updated list of upcoming events based on user submission and moderator approval.

Let me know what you think about something like this when you're free to reply, I'd like to hear your thoughts in addition to anyone else who sees this and wants to talk about it. [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 17:11, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

:It's definitely on the edge of what makes sense here, but I think that it's worth considering as it could well be useful. Might be something that will end up being done through FULU though in the end... maybe some kind of 'events noticeboard' a bit like the moderator notice could work? [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 20:25, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

::An "events noticeboard" in the way you describe it with moderation is exactly what I was thinking. You're right about how it should be done through FULU directly instead of the wiki, that's a better idea.

::Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. I was just wondering if it was a completely off-the-wall idea. [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 23:16, 27 August 2025 (UTC)

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 ::::Noted. It would be great if there was a regular draft function like in almost every software. (So this doesn’t happen to other new users after their first contribution.) Honestly, after you deleted it, it felt like my contribution is unwanted.  [[User:Slab Man|Slab Man]] ([[User talk:Slab Man|talk]]) 04:31, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
 :::::That's fair enough - we should add some more text to the article creation flow which explains how user space works, how to make a draft article, and what the policy for handling new articles is. If you'd like, I can get the text from the deleted article and put it on your user talk page or something so you can pick it up from where you left off? [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 10:37, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
+::::::Thank you that would be great. Looking forward to helping out! [[User:Slab Man|Slab Man]] ([[User talk:Slab Man|talk]]) 18:32, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
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 :Done! [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 08:23, 19 August 2025 (UTC)
+==Question about re-use of sources for LiveView Article==
+Hey Keith,
+I noticed that for the [[LiveView Technologies AI Surveillance]] article, the same source has been re-used multiple times but shows up with a different citation number. Namely the citations number 6,32, and 33 are duplicates of 4 (LVT Use Cases in Law Enforcement), 14 is a duplicate of 5 (AI-Driven Mobile Security for Every Threat), 35 is a duplicate of 8 (Fusion Centers), and 21 is a duplicate of 20 (Mobile cameras deployed at Monroe County Office Building amid security concerns)
+Also the links are missing the archive URLs in the references and some don't have author first and last name or date where they are available on the site or the date is incorrect.
+I have a version of the article which shrinks the list of references (citation 33 is now a re-use of citation 4 for that section for example) and also has the relevant archive links and names and dates for each reference where possible.
+Should I commit the change? I know that this article may be looked at be people very soon and I'd rather get your approval to change it and have you ready to roll-back or append to it in case you don't like it. [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 18:47, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
+:I think I'm going to commit the change now, you're free to revert it or check it over in case I messed something up. In the event this article is mentioned at City hall on Thursday, I want it to be the best it can be.
+:Thank you for helping with the wiki. [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 19:03, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
+::Thank you! and yeah, if you notice small formating issues (especially with an article louis has been working on :P ) just go ahead and make the change - that's the way of the wiki! [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 19:41, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
+:::Small formatting issues or other non-obvious things like referencing problems* [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 19:41, 26 August 2025 (UTC)
+==Proposal to add a section for organized meetings. (might be a better name for this)==
+Hey Keith, I hope I'm not posting here again too early.
+I thought about how every time Louis wants to generate interest for a particular issue with regards to getting viewers to organize, most of the time he has to do a video on it and these calls for organization when fighting for a particular issue (such as LVT tomorrow) are based in the United States.
+I don't know if this already exists on the wiki (if it does, i'd like to know where it is), but do you think it would be a good idea to create a page specifically for posting the dates and instructions for showing up to demonstrations or hearings for the purposes of pushing back against anti-consumer or anti-privacy related issues? (This could be world-wide).
+If someone from the UK for example wanted to organize a demonstration or have people speak at or attend an open council meeting, they would edit a row of a wiki table and list the time of the demonstration, an additional page describing the instructions or requirements to attend, and the issue that will be talked about (similar to rossmanngroup.com/clippyone).
+I feel that with something like this, organizing both members of the public and members of the wiki regardless of country would be much easier and could provide a centralized and updated list of upcoming events based on user submission and moderator approval.
+Let me know what you think about something like this when you're free to reply, I'd like to hear your thoughts in addition to anyone else who sees this and wants to talk about it.  [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 17:11, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
+:It's definitely on the edge of what makes sense here, but I think that it's worth considering as it could well be useful. Might be something that will end up being done through FULU though in the end... maybe some kind of 'events noticeboard' a bit like the moderator notice could work? [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 20:25, 27 August 2025 (UTC)
+::An "events noticeboard" in the way you describe it with moderation is exactly what I was thinking. You're right about how it should be done through FULU directly instead of the wiki, that's a better idea.
+::Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. I was just wondering if it was a completely off-the-wall idea. [[User:Left4Code|Left4Code]] ([[User talk:Left4Code|talk]]) 23:16, 27 August 2025 (UTC)