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 :I see AI more as a theme/background article.  AI is so pervasive now, and affects people in so many ways, that I think it makes sense to have at least one article on it.
 :Things that I think such an article should cover include:
-:Data centers - environmental impacts, community impacts, energy demand and subsidy by electricity and water rate payers, and how many of these agreements are made in secret, even in nominally democratic/open governmental systems.  In the US data centers are often located in marginalized communities, where people are not as organized to protect their community .  (This is not exclusively an AI thing might be worth a separate article about data centers in general, covering crypto mining operations, etc.)
+:*Data centers - environmental impacts, community impacts, energy demand and subsidy by electricity and water rate payers, and how many of these agreements are made in secret, even in nominally democratic/open governmental systems.  In the US data centers are often located in marginalized communities, where people are not as organized to protect their community .  (This is not exclusively an AI thing might be worth a separate article about data centers in general, covering crypto mining operations, etc.)
-:Control of information - Use of LLM in place of search is decimating independent information sources (taking away advertising revenue, taking away views).  LLM make a poor substitute for human written product reviews.  (Inaccurate, praises whatever the user wants - even products that don't exist.)
+:*Inaccuracy and inappropriate use of LLM. "Hallucinations" People not understanding what an LLM is and assuming they are more capable than they are. LLM make a poor substitute for human written product reviews. (Inaccurate, praises whatever the user wants - even products that don't exist.)
-:Intellectual property - piracy in training data (using stolen data), use of output.
+:*Control of information - Use of LLM in place of search is decimating independent information sources (taking away advertising revenue, taking away views).
-:Privacy and security - data poisoning, ease of subverting guardrails, gathering data for training, revealing prompts, law enforcement review of chatbot prompts and outputs, etc.
+:*Intellectual property - piracy in training data (using stolen data), use of output.
-:Concerns about possible effects on users - AI psychosis, etc.
+:*Privacy and security - data poisoning, ease of subverting guardrails, gathering data for training, revealing prompts, law enforcement review of chatbot prompts and outputs, etc.
-:Labor concerns - conditions of labelers/piece workers.
+:*Concerns about possible effects on users - AI psychosis, etc.
-:Liability - LLM are often inaccurate, what happens when the AI harms people (libel, suicide, etc.)
+:*Labor concerns - conditions of labelers/piece workers.
+:*Liability - LLM are often inaccurate, what happens when the AI harms people (libel, suicide, etc.)
 :I have sources for a bunch of this, will be adding them to the article talk page as time permits.   [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:27, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
+::You're completely right. My mistake. This article does need significant reworking to maintain relevance, and a lot of the technical details should be simplified to maintain the wiki's voice and tone. But it's pretty relevant overall, so with time, it could fit better. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 19:02, 4 September 2025 (UTC)
-== Appeal posted re proposed deletion ==
+==Appeal posted re proposed deletion==
 I posted an appeal request regarding article deletion.  Things I would like to see in this article are listed under scope.  I think easier to edit existing article than start new one.
 If you have an opinion one-way or the other, please add on to the appeal discussion on the moderator page (wouldn't want multiple appeals).  Thanks.   [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:41, 4 September 2025 (UTC)