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== Relevance == | ==Relevance== | ||
Wiki Policy specifically states that product recommendations are outside the scope of this wiki. A relevance notice has been added. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 02:16, 2 November 2025 (UTC) | Wiki Policy specifically states that product recommendations are outside the scope of this wiki. A relevance notice has been added. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 02:16, 2 November 2025 (UTC) | ||
:I think ad block is an appropriate theme article. Just as we have a lot of articles about anti-consumer practices, it is reasonable to cover some of the common pro-consumer alternatives. | :I think ad block is an appropriate theme article. Just as we have a lot of articles about anti-consumer practices, it is reasonable to cover some of the common pro-consumer alternatives. | ||
:I guess if others really feel this is topic is irrelevant, maybe we could fold this into an article about advertising. (Which could cover advertising overload, and ad-block as sub-themes. If they got big enough they could be broken out to their own articles.) | :I guess if others really feel this is topic is irrelevant, maybe we could fold this into an article about advertising. (Which could cover advertising overload, and ad-block as sub-themes. If they got big enough they could be broken out to their own articles.) | ||
:Is there a section relevance notice? It sounds like the relevance objection is to the section about ad blocking features, rather than the article as a whole? | :Is there a section relevance notice? It sounds like the relevance objection is to the section about ad blocking features, rather than the article as a whole? | ||
:As far as the table about specific ad blocking features. Is there a similar table in Wikipedia we could link to? If not, could something like that fly there? (I have no objection to the content, just figure it might get broader audience there.) [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 20:48, 2 November 2025 (UTC) | :As far as the table about specific ad blocking features. Is there a similar table in Wikipedia we could link to? If not, could something like that fly there? (I have no objection to the content, just figure it might get broader audience there.) [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 20:48, 2 November 2025 (UTC) | ||
::It looks better now. Before it was written as if advertising ad blockers, so that was the issue. I still think the table is unnecessary though, and it would be better to link to external source rather than describing in detail the different ad blockers and browsers out there. Thanks for cleaning up the article [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 14:24, 4 November 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Unfortunately, I haven't seen a comprehensive summary with this concise information on another wiki source. Otherwise, I would have just linked to that instead of creating one here. Presently, the table is incomplete. For example, Vivaldi exists for A, L, and Windows but I was unsure of iOS and need to research that as well as the mods for each browser. On my phone, I only have Chrome, Firefox, DuckDuckGo, and Vivaldi. Also, editing a wiki table is far easier when not on a phone (at least for me). [[Special:Contributions/2603:7081:1200:FB1D:82AA:2677:C186:2876|2603:7081:1200:FB1D:82AA:2677:C186:2876]] 20:50, 21 November 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Second it. I think the table needs to go. It's good information, just IMHO in the wrong place. | |||
:::It can serve as supplementary/illustrative to the current bird's eye view of ad blocking, but at this time I fail to see to what. [[User:D-side|D-side]] ([[User talk:D-side|talk]]) 00:47, 24 March 2026 (UTC) | |||
::::I must concur, we could probably get this to work well if we suggest it as a topic for Wikipedia to cover though. [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 01:01, 24 March 2026 (UTC) | |||
==Remove "Do Not Track" from the table== | |||
The DNT header is [https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Headers/DNT deprecated] and enables websites to track users even more precisely, as it's yet another signal that only some clients send with their requests. There have been many arguments made against it, for example by the popular privacy-respecting analytics service GoatCounter[https://www.arp242.net/dnt.html]. It shouldn't be considered while choosing a browser for daily use at all, and I'd argue that it's beneficial to avoid it alltogether. [[User:Skybydy|Skybydy]] ([[User talk:Skybydy|talk]]) 01:42, 23 February 2026 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 01:01, 24 March 2026
I propose a table for each type of ad blocking or privacy filter.
For example, one table should be web browsers and which add-ons and plug-ins work with it.
It should also have notation indicators for desktop vs mobile; OS may also be useful
Examples
Browsers:
Fire Fox
Firefox Dev Edition
Vivaldi
Waterfox
Add-ons/Extensions/Plug-ins:
Duck Duck Go Privacy Essentials
NoScript
Privacy Badger
uBlock Origin
I'm on mobile. Sorry.
Relevance
[edit source]Wiki Policy specifically states that product recommendations are outside the scope of this wiki. A relevance notice has been added. Beanie Bo (talk) 02:16, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- I think ad block is an appropriate theme article. Just as we have a lot of articles about anti-consumer practices, it is reasonable to cover some of the common pro-consumer alternatives.
- I guess if others really feel this is topic is irrelevant, maybe we could fold this into an article about advertising. (Which could cover advertising overload, and ad-block as sub-themes. If they got big enough they could be broken out to their own articles.)
- Is there a section relevance notice? It sounds like the relevance objection is to the section about ad blocking features, rather than the article as a whole?
- As far as the table about specific ad blocking features. Is there a similar table in Wikipedia we could link to? If not, could something like that fly there? (I have no objection to the content, just figure it might get broader audience there.) Drakeula (talk) 20:48, 2 November 2025 (UTC)
- It looks better now. Before it was written as if advertising ad blockers, so that was the issue. I still think the table is unnecessary though, and it would be better to link to external source rather than describing in detail the different ad blockers and browsers out there. Thanks for cleaning up the article Beanie Bo (talk) 14:24, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, I haven't seen a comprehensive summary with this concise information on another wiki source. Otherwise, I would have just linked to that instead of creating one here. Presently, the table is incomplete. For example, Vivaldi exists for A, L, and Windows but I was unsure of iOS and need to research that as well as the mods for each browser. On my phone, I only have Chrome, Firefox, DuckDuckGo, and Vivaldi. Also, editing a wiki table is far easier when not on a phone (at least for me). 2603:7081:1200:FB1D:82AA:2677:C186:2876 20:50, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- Second it. I think the table needs to go. It's good information, just IMHO in the wrong place.
- It can serve as supplementary/illustrative to the current bird's eye view of ad blocking, but at this time I fail to see to what. D-side (talk) 00:47, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- I must concur, we could probably get this to work well if we suggest it as a topic for Wikipedia to cover though. JamesTDG (talk) 01:01, 24 March 2026 (UTC)
- It looks better now. Before it was written as if advertising ad blockers, so that was the issue. I still think the table is unnecessary though, and it would be better to link to external source rather than describing in detail the different ad blockers and browsers out there. Thanks for cleaning up the article Beanie Bo (talk) 14:24, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
Remove "Do Not Track" from the table
[edit source]The DNT header is deprecated and enables websites to track users even more precisely, as it's yet another signal that only some clients send with their requests. There have been many arguments made against it, for example by the popular privacy-respecting analytics service GoatCounter[1]. It shouldn't be considered while choosing a browser for daily use at all, and I'd argue that it's beneficial to avoid it alltogether. Skybydy (talk) 01:42, 23 February 2026 (UTC)