Netflix stream-quality controversy: Difference between revisions

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For example: Transformers: Rise of the Beasts is HD only on Netflix,<ref>[https://www.netflix.com/title/81602889 "Netflix - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts"] - netflix.com</ref> whereas it’s clearly available in UHD on other platforms,<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rise-Beasts-Anthony-Ramos/dp/B0BX1MWKHY "Amazon Prime - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts"] - amazon.com</ref> or Blu-ray.<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rise-Beasts-4K-UHD/dp/B0C5P5K55N <nowiki>"Amazon - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts [4K UHD]"</nowiki>] - amazon.com</ref>

[[File:Netflix not providing 4k even if it exist2.png|thumb]]

Another movie is [[wikipedia:Jurassic_World:_Fallen_Kingdom|Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom]]. A somewhat scribbled flowchart i made ~~exists here on the page where i show i have~~ Netflix ~~4K premium and can~~'t ~~get~~ even 720p ~~despite having~~ a ~~very good PC~~ and internet connection, and ~~that i know that the~~ movie exists in higher resolution.

Another movie is [[wikipedia:Jurassic_World:_Fallen_Kingdom|Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom]]. To the right is a somewhat scribbled flowchart I made that visually demonstrates how Netflix doesn't even return 720p through a paid Netflix 4K premium plan. This is on a device with excellent hardware and a fast, stable internet connection, and a movie which certainly exists in a higher resolution.

Source linking from different statements from the picture, and links from within the wikipedia pages (and more).

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4K UHD: 3840 x 2160<ref>{{Cite web |last=Sciretta |first=Peter |date=24 Apr 2018 |title='Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom' Director J.A. Bayona On Bringing Suspense Back To The Franchise [Set Visit Interview] |url=https://www.slashfilm.com/557725/j-a-bayona-interview/ |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=SlashFilm}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Technical Specifications |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/technical/ |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=[[IMDb]]}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Alexa 65 |url=https://www.arrirental.com/en/cameras/digital-65-mm-cameras/alexa-65 |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=ArriRental}}</ref>

That they would shoot a movie in UHD resolution with a camera worth 150-200k USD and downsize it to 960x540 (similar to some DVD format and even VHS we had back in the 2000's) during post processing in 2018 is extremely unlikely and ~~unlogical~~.

That they would shoot a movie in UHD resolution with a camera worth 150-200k USD and downsize it to 960x540 (similar to some DVD format and even VHS we had back in the 2000's) during post processing in 2018 is extremely unlikely and illogical.

Here is an interview with a professional in 2017 (not working on Jurassic world: Fallen Kingdom) talking about why it is common to film in ultra high resolution and downscale. Note that he never mentioned any lower resolution than 1080p:<ref>{{Cite web |last=Shapton |first=David |date=17 Jun 2017 |title=Working with resolutions above 4K: We interview renowned cinematographer Shane Hurlbut, ASC |url=https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/3626-working-with-resolutions-above-4k-we-interview-renowned-cinematographer-shane-hurlbut |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=RedShark}}</ref><blockquote>From a technical side, sure, we can "future proof" the quality by mastering in 4K UHD and releasing in 1080p today only to re-release our films in 4K UHD years later without having to scale the resolution where we lose quality over the image.</blockquote>An additional take from the same interview which is a bit relevant because Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom uses alot of VFX:<blockquote>In some projects, we're starting to bring in a lot more VFX, so having the added resolution makes a big difference with our VFX team, giving them a larger canvas to work with.</blockquote>

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You can rent the video on youtube in 1080p.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ETePG9F6Zk&ab_channel=YouTubeMovies]

[[File:Jurassic world Fallen Kingdom High-res preview at youtube.png|thumb]]

(I added another picture where i show that the feed on youtube IS in fact 1080p, and it also shows that my connection speed is 55004 Kbps or around 55 Mbps, buffring the video to 37.81s took a handful of seconds, more proof to show that my connection speed is not part of the issue.)

(I added another picture where I show that the feed on youtube IS in fact 1080p, and it also shows that my connection speed is 55004 Kbps or around 55 Mbps, buffring the video to 37.81s took a handful of seconds. This is more proof to show that my connection speed is not part of the issue.)

==References==

[[Category:Netflix]]

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 For example: Transformers: Rise of the Beasts is HD only on Netflix,<ref>[https://www.netflix.com/title/81602889 "Netflix - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts"] - netflix.com</ref> whereas it’s clearly available in UHD on other platforms,<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rise-Beasts-Anthony-Ramos/dp/B0BX1MWKHY "Amazon Prime - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts"] - amazon.com</ref> or Blu-ray.<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Rise-Beasts-4K-UHD/dp/B0C5P5K55N <nowiki>"Amazon - Transformers: Rise of the Beasts [4K UHD]"</nowiki>] - amazon.com</ref>
 [[File:Netflix not providing 4k even if it exist2.png|thumb]]
-Another movie is [[wikipedia:Jurassic_World:_Fallen_Kingdom|Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom]]. A somewhat scribbled flowchart i made exists here on the page where i show i have Netflix 4K premium and can't get even 720p despite having a very good PC and internet connection, and that i know that the movie exists in higher resolution.
+Another movie is [[wikipedia:Jurassic_World:_Fallen_Kingdom|Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom]]. To the right is a somewhat scribbled flowchart I made that visually demonstrates how Netflix doesn't even return 720p through a paid Netflix 4K premium plan. This is on a device with excellent hardware and a fast, stable internet connection, and a movie which certainly exists in a higher resolution.
 Source linking from different statements from the picture, and links from within the wikipedia pages (and more).
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 K UHD: 3840 x 2160<ref>{{Cite web |last=Sciretta |first=Peter |date=24 Apr 2018 |title='Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom' Director J.A. Bayona On Bringing Suspense Back To The Franchise [Set Visit Interview] |url=https://www.slashfilm.com/557725/j-a-bayona-interview/ |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=SlashFilm}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Technical Specifications |url=https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4881806/technical/ |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=[[IMDb]]}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Alexa 65 |url=https://www.arrirental.com/en/cameras/digital-65-mm-cameras/alexa-65 |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=ArriRental}}</ref>
-That they would shoot a movie in UHD resolution with a camera worth 150-200k USD and downsize it to 960x540 (similar to some DVD format and even VHS we had back in the 2000's) during post processing in 2018 is extremely unlikely and unlogical.
+That they would shoot a movie in UHD resolution with a camera worth 150-200k USD and downsize it to 960x540 (similar to some DVD format and even VHS we had back in the 2000's) during post processing in 2018 is extremely unlikely and illogical.
 Here is an interview with a professional in 2017 (not working on Jurassic world: Fallen Kingdom) talking about why it is common to film in ultra high resolution and downscale. Note that he never mentioned any lower resolution than 1080p:<ref>{{Cite web |last=Shapton |first=David |date=17 Jun 2017 |title=Working with resolutions above 4K: We interview renowned cinematographer Shane Hurlbut, ASC |url=https://www.redsharknews.com/production/item/3626-working-with-resolutions-above-4k-we-interview-renowned-cinematographer-shane-hurlbut |url-status=live |access-date=22 Mar 2025 |website=RedShark}}</ref><blockquote>From a technical side, sure, we can "future proof" the quality by mastering in 4K UHD and releasing in 1080p today only to re-release our films in 4K UHD years later without having to scale the resolution where we lose quality over the image.</blockquote>An additional take from the same interview which is a bit relevant because Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom uses alot of VFX:<blockquote>In some projects, we're starting to bring in a lot more VFX, so having the added resolution makes a big difference with our VFX team, giving them a larger canvas to work with.</blockquote>
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 You can rent the video on youtube in 1080p.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ETePG9F6Zk&ab_channel=YouTubeMovies]
 [[File:Jurassic world Fallen Kingdom High-res preview at youtube.png|thumb]]
-(I added another picture where i show that the feed on youtube IS in fact 1080p, and it also shows that my connection speed is 55004 Kbps or around 55 Mbps, buffring the video to 37.81s took a handful of seconds, more proof to show that my connection speed is not part of the issue.)<!-- Feel free to add more sources of the movie after "More sources that show/sell high resolution versions of the movie" -->
+(I added another picture where I show that the feed on youtube IS in fact 1080p, and it also shows that my connection speed is 55004 Kbps or around 55 Mbps, buffring the video to 37.81s took a handful of seconds. This is more proof to show that my connection speed is not part of the issue.)<!-- Feel free to add more sources of the movie after "More sources that show/sell high resolution versions of the movie" -->
 ==References==
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 [[Category:Netflix]]