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:::::Apparently the protesting of NSFW/Mature video games started specifically against ''No Mercy''. Itch de-indexed the games, as far as I can tell it wasn't because of any new legislation, they did it without notifying any customers. I disagree with much of CS's positions, but Itch wasn't forced to do what they did the way they did it. They chose profit over their customers, it would cost money to go through each title one by one. The games that I found CS reference besides GTA are games I don't want to describe on this wiki.

:::::Which payment processors are involved, I can't find a name? [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 15:00, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

::::::At least for itch.io, it's visa and mastercard. [[User:Lowspeedguy|Lowspeedguy]] ([[User talk:Lowspeedguy|talk]]) 16:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:::::This incidents opens up the debate about financial censorship, the role of payment processors as content moderators, and the impact on creative freedom. They don't want to get rid of every game ever, the games in question are objectively for adults only. ''Daddy, Say My Name'', ''Sex Education With Richard And Mr. Dickson'', ''Short Horns'', based on the descriptions, the games content and themes violated the credit co. policies. The group is not main antagonist. I really wanna make it clear that I'm not defending their positions i.e. porn, abortion, etc. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 15:49, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

::::::They also want to take down games like gta, which means many, if not most, games that aren't porn are under their scope. [[User:Lowspeedguy|Lowspeedguy]] ([[User talk:Lowspeedguy|talk]]) 16:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:::::::It's like if an environmentalist lobbies and gets laws passed ending the production of combustion engines to save the planet. You cant buy a gas engine anymore, but you can still buy a car. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:48, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:I think this group is a bit fascist and only incidentally anti-consumer. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:59, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:'''Caitlin Roper''', the campaigns manager said Collective Shout's campaign was only intended to remove rape and incest games.

:''We did not set out to get all NSFW content removed. We specifically targeted rape games, games that promoted sexualised violence against women and children,'' she said.

:[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886][Https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886] [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 19:23, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

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 :::::Apparently the protesting of NSFW/Mature video games started specifically against ''No Mercy''. Itch de-indexed the games, as far as I can tell it wasn't because of any new legislation, they did it without notifying any customers. I disagree with much of CS's positions, but Itch wasn't forced to do what they did the way they did it. They chose profit over their customers, it would cost money to go through each title one by one. The games that I found CS reference besides GTA are games I don't want to describe on this wiki.
 :::::Which payment processors are involved, I can't find a name? [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 15:00, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+::::::At least for itch.io, it's visa and mastercard. [[User:Lowspeedguy|Lowspeedguy]] ([[User talk:Lowspeedguy|talk]]) 16:11, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
 :::::This incidents opens up the debate about financial censorship, the role of payment processors as content moderators, and the impact on creative freedom. They don't want to get rid of every game ever, the games in question are objectively for adults only. ''Daddy, Say My Name'', ''Sex Education With Richard And Mr. Dickson'', ''Short Horns'', based on the descriptions, the games content and themes violated the credit co. policies. The group is not main antagonist. I really wanna make it clear that I'm not defending their positions i.e. porn, abortion, etc. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 15:49, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+::::::They also want to take down games like gta, which means many, if not most, games that aren't porn are under their scope. [[User:Lowspeedguy|Lowspeedguy]] ([[User talk:Lowspeedguy|talk]]) 16:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+:::::::It's like if an environmentalist lobbies and gets laws passed ending the production of combustion engines to save the planet. You cant buy a gas engine anymore, but you can still buy a car. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:48, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+:I think this group is a bit fascist and only incidentally anti-consumer. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:59, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+:'''Caitlin Roper''', the campaigns manager said Collective Shout's campaign was only intended to remove rape and incest games.
+:''We did not set out to get all NSFW content removed. We specifically targeted rape games, games that promoted sexualised violence against women and children,'' she said.
+:[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886][Https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886] [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 19:23, 5 September 2025 (UTC)