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::::::They also want to take down games like gta, which means many, if not most, games that aren't porn are under their scope. [[User:Lowspeedguy|Lowspeedguy]] ([[User talk:Lowspeedguy|talk]]) 16:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:::::::It's like if an environmentalist lobbies and gets laws passed ending the production of combustion engines to save the planet. You cant buy a gas engine anymore, but you can still buy a car. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:48, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:I think this group is a bit fascist and only incidentally anti-consumer. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:59, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

:'''Caitlin Roper''', the campaigns manager said Collective Shout's campaign was only intended to remove rape and incest games.

:''We did not set out to get all NSFW content removed. We specifically targeted rape games, games that promoted sexualised violence against women and children,'' she said.

:[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886][Https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886] [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 19:23, 5 September 2025 (UTC)

::Regardless of their intentions, it has had the effect of removing customers' right to engage in ''lawful'' transactions. What good is "right to own" if you have been rendered unable to obtain something in the first place?

::<br />

::And to add: The group ''is'' one of the main parties to the controversy regardless of one's position on the subject. It's not as though Collective Shout's involvement is merely incidental when it was pressure ''from them'' that led to Mastercard, Visa, and PayPal suddenly caring a lot more about video games based around sexual violence or otherwise deeply disturbing themes. — [[User:Sojourna|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna|talk]]) 00:23, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

:::I am not saying their involvement was incidental, I'm saying that this talk page is larger than an article on CS's systemic anti-consumer practices could be. I started an article about the DeIndexing, tell me what you think. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 00:44, 6 September 2025 (UTC)

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 ::::::They also want to take down games like gta, which means many, if not most, games that aren't porn are under their scope. [[User:Lowspeedguy|Lowspeedguy]] ([[User talk:Lowspeedguy|talk]]) 16:14, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
 :::::::It's like if an environmentalist lobbies and gets laws passed ending the production of combustion engines to save the planet. You cant buy a gas engine anymore, but you can still buy a car. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:48, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+:I think this group is a bit fascist and only incidentally anti-consumer. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 16:59, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+:'''Caitlin Roper''', the campaigns manager said Collective Shout's campaign was only intended to remove rape and incest games.
+:''We did not set out to get all NSFW content removed. We specifically targeted rape games, games that promoted sexualised violence against women and children,'' she said.
+:[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886][Https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-03/adult-video-games-removed-from-steam-after-campaign/105597886] [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 19:23, 5 September 2025 (UTC)
+::Regardless of their intentions, it has had the effect of removing customers' right to engage in ''lawful'' transactions. What good is "right to own" if you have been rendered unable to obtain something in the first place?
+::<br />
+::And to add: The group ''is'' one of the main parties to the controversy regardless of one's position on the subject. It's not as though Collective Shout's involvement is merely incidental when it was pressure ''from them'' that led to Mastercard, Visa, and PayPal suddenly caring a lot more about video games based around sexual violence or otherwise deeply disturbing themes. — [[User:Sojourna|Sojourna]] ([[User talk:Sojourna|talk]]) 00:23, 6 September 2025 (UTC)
+:::I am not saying their involvement was incidental, I'm saying that this talk page is larger than an article on CS's systemic anti-consumer practices could be. I started an article about the DeIndexing, tell me what you think. [[User:DzLamme|DzLD]] ([[User talk:DzLamme|talk]]) 00:44, 6 September 2025 (UTC)