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::::The layout of this reminds me of the abuse filter messages used, it has a very similar style. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:41, 20 October 2025 (UTC)

:While I do agree on this that it is gated behind discord, I do wanna make a request to the staff that we need a matrix or a SimpleX chat group chat for this one to exist (Yes, simpleX has a lot of room to spare for a lot of users). There is a reason why discord is made a software page here somewhere in this wiki. [[User:Jerry468|Jerry468]] ([[User talk:Jerry468|talk]]) 14:30, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

::@[[User:Jerry468|Jerry468]] I love that idea (as someone who doesn't use discord)! I noticed IRC is often used on Wikipedia, although I haven't really done any research on it so it could be irrelevant. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 15:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:To be fair, help isn't gated behind discord. The process is just as slow there as it is here many times. It depends on the availability of admins, which is really just Keith by himself.

:That said, moving moderation discussions away from discord has been mentioned and is a lengthy process that is hoped to be achieved soon. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 17:09, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

::Ah, it's worse there than I thought! It's generally easier for me and other non-Discord users to be able to see moderation discussions, maybe put a page in the Project namespace talking about the discussions as a first step? Would be helpful! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:39, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you for the perspective Beanie Bo. It was more the appearance of having discord link at the top of the page (and I keep finding it other places). Gave that FOMO feeling. I didn't mean criticism of the help here (or on discord), just the frustration of not knowing where to ask. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 06:32, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

::::You're right, and it's a very valid point. The noticeboard might need an overhaul anyway, so thanks for bringing it to our attention [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 16:48, 22 October 2025 (UTC)

==Where to ask questions on the wiki?==

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:::::There is this guide, [[Customer Privacy Guide]] which somebody was working on. However I would check with the moderators before working on that, since it does not seem to fit the stated policy guidance on guides. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 06:28, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

== Can we just replace PrivacyGuides.org? ==

==Can we just replace PrivacyGuides.org?==

There are several reasons why and since there are going to be some people who are open source purists, and those that believe that privacy is not a spectrum (because its either you have privacy or not). I do want to make suggestion based off of this as there is a darknet wiki that does say it is a laxist community, saying it is possible to have "have privacy on Windows and Mac" which is completely false if you dug deeper. Normally this was said before and I am gonna say it here to do a little bit of a favor for all of us, replace PrivacyGuides.org into something else, if there isn't post-pone it until something new pops up. There are evidence of criticisms that I have noticed and I think it is reasonable to not recommend a laxist community that has no merit at all. I am not here to be rude, I am here to provide technicalities, logic, and reason, because nobody should be spied on by little brothers.

I would expect a peaceful discussion on this matter over here, I just want to bring the attention of how horrible or lenient it is for somebody who wants to recommend such a thing, I have seen it before. [[User:Jerry468|Jerry468]] ([[User talk:Jerry468|talk]]) 14:40, 21 October 2025 (UTC)

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 ::::The layout of this reminds me of the abuse filter messages used, it has a very similar style. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:41, 20 October 2025 (UTC)
 :While I do agree on this that it is gated behind discord, I do wanna make a request to the staff that we need a matrix or a SimpleX chat group chat for this one to exist (Yes, simpleX has a lot of room to spare for a lot of users). There is a reason why discord is made a software page here somewhere in this wiki. [[User:Jerry468|Jerry468]] ([[User talk:Jerry468|talk]]) 14:30, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+::@[[User:Jerry468|Jerry468]] I love that idea (as someone who doesn't use discord)! I noticed IRC is often used on Wikipedia, although I haven't really done any research on it so it could be irrelevant. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 15:04, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+:To be fair, help isn't gated behind discord. The process is just as slow there as it is here many times. It depends on the availability of admins, which is really just Keith by himself.
+:That said, moving moderation discussions away from discord has been mentioned and is a lengthy process that is hoped to be achieved soon. [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 17:09, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+::Ah, it's worse there than I thought! It's generally easier for me and other non-Discord users to be able to see moderation discussions, maybe put a page in the Project namespace talking about the discussions as a first step? Would be helpful! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:39, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
+:::Thank you for the perspective Beanie Bo.  It was more the appearance of having discord link at the top of the page (and I keep finding it other places).  Gave that FOMO feeling.  I didn't mean criticism of the help here (or on discord), just the frustration of not knowing where to ask.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 06:32, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
+::::You're right, and it's a very valid point. The noticeboard might need an overhaul anyway, so thanks for bringing it to our attention [[User:Beanie Bo|Beanie Bo]] ([[User talk:Beanie Bo|talk]]) 16:48, 22 October 2025 (UTC)
 ==Where to ask questions on the wiki?==
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 :::::There is this guide, [[Customer Privacy Guide]] which somebody was working on.  However I would check with the moderators before working on that, since it does not seem to fit the stated policy guidance on guides.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 06:28, 21 October 2025 (UTC)
-== Can we just replace PrivacyGuides.org? ==
+==Can we just replace PrivacyGuides.org?==
 There are several reasons why and since there are going to be some people who are open source purists, and those that believe that privacy is not a spectrum (because its either you have privacy or not). I do want to make suggestion based off of this as there is a darknet wiki that does say it is a laxist community, saying it is possible to have "have privacy on Windows and Mac" which is completely false if you dug deeper. Normally this was said before and I am gonna say it here to do a little bit of a favor for all of us, replace PrivacyGuides.org into something else, if there isn't post-pone it until something new pops up. There are evidence of criticisms that I have noticed and I think it is reasonable to not recommend a laxist community that has no merit at all. I am not here to be rude, I am here to provide technicalities, logic, and reason, because nobody should be spied on by little brothers.
 I would expect a peaceful discussion on this matter over here, I just want to bring the attention of how horrible or lenient it is for somebody who wants to recommend such a thing, I have seen it before.      [[User:Jerry468|Jerry468]] ([[User talk:Jerry468|talk]]) 14:40, 21 October 2025 (UTC)