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== More nuance needed? ==

==More nuance needed?==

The claim on this page that Proton's policy for IP logging "proved to be false" is inaccurate. Proton's website said that no IP addresses are logged ''by default''. While this could be described as confusing or misleading, the situation mentioned in that section does not seem to directly contradict the original written policy. [[User:GoldenCMOS|GoldenCMOS]] ([[User talk:GoldenCMOS|talk]]) 00:58, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

:It might say by ''default,'' but the user might have been using default settings [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 01:42, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

:I think if you can find sources you can change it [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 01:45, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

::To be clear: the difference isn't in settings somewhere, it's whether or not Proton has a need to log your IP.

::So they don't usually, but are capable of it if your account is accused of illegal activity.

::"Proton must comply with Swiss law. As soon as a crime is committed, privacy protections can be suspended and we’re required by Swiss law to answer requests from Swiss authorities"

::I'm not aware of any way a company with a server could claim to a government that they can't give the IP address used to connect to an account in the future. [[User:GoldenCMOS|GoldenCMOS]] ([[User talk:GoldenCMOS|talk]]) 16:25, 4 June 2026 (UTC)

==Should some of this be moved to the "Proton" page.==

I feel like some of the stuff on this page isn't specific to proton mail, and effects all of proton's services [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 01:48, 16 March 2026 (UTC)

==Article should be merged with [[Proton]]==

[[Proton Mail]] is a stub as-is while [[Proton]] is incomplete, and the service is one of many of Proton's offerings. I think the content here should be included as a subheading of [[Proton]] which would kill two birds with one stone. Another benefit is that if there are any other product-specific incidents with Proton's offerings in the future, there won't be any need to create a new stub article, it can simply all be included in one place under [[Proton]]. [[User:Tempo123|Tempo123]] ([[User talk:Tempo123|talk]]) 20:47, 15 April 2026 (UTC)

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-== More nuance needed? ==
+==More nuance needed?==
 The claim on this page that Proton's policy for IP logging "proved to be false" is inaccurate. Proton's website said that no IP addresses are logged ''by default''. While this could be described as confusing or misleading, the situation mentioned in that section does not seem to directly contradict the original written policy. [[User:GoldenCMOS|GoldenCMOS]] ([[User talk:GoldenCMOS|talk]]) 00:58, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
+:It might say by ''default,'' but the user might have been using default settings [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 01:42, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
+:I think if you can find sources you can change it [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 01:45, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
+::To be clear: the difference isn't in settings somewhere, it's whether or not Proton has a need to log your IP.
+::So they don't usually, but are capable of it if your account is accused of illegal activity.
+::"Proton must comply with Swiss law. As soon as a crime is committed, privacy protections can be suspended and we’re required by Swiss law to answer requests from Swiss authorities"
+::I'm not aware of any way a company with a server could claim to a government that they can't give the IP address used to connect to an account in the future. [[User:GoldenCMOS|GoldenCMOS]] ([[User talk:GoldenCMOS|talk]]) 16:25, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
+==Should some of this be moved to the "Proton" page.==
+I feel like  some of the stuff on this page isn't specific to proton mail, and effects all of proton's services [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 01:48, 16 March 2026 (UTC)
+==Article should be merged with [[Proton]]==
+[[Proton Mail]] is a stub as-is while [[Proton]] is incomplete, and the service is one of many of Proton's offerings. I think the content here should be included as a subheading of [[Proton]] which would kill two birds with one stone. Another benefit is that if there are any other product-specific incidents with Proton's offerings in the future, there won't be any need to create a new stub article, it can simply all be included in one place under [[Proton]]. [[User:Tempo123|Tempo123]] ([[User talk:Tempo123|talk]]) 20:47, 15 April 2026 (UTC)