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{{~~InfoboxCompany~~

~~| Name = Miele~~

{{CompanyCargo

| ~~Type~~ = ~~Private~~

|Description=

| Founded = 1899

|Founded=1899

| Industry = Manufacturing

|Industry=Manufacturing

| ~~Official~~ Website = https://miele.com/

|Logo=Miele.png

~~| Logo = Miele.png~~

|ParentCompany=

|Type=Private

|Website=https://miele.com/

}}

'''[[Wikipedia:Miele|Miele]]''' is a German manufacturer of domestic appliances and commercial equipment. It was founded in 1899 by Carl Miele and Reinhard Zinkann.

~~Founded in 1899~~, ~~'''[[Wikipedia:~~Miele|Miele~~]]''' is a German manufacturer of domestic appliances and commercial equipment~~.

==Consumer-impact summary==

====Freedom====

====Privacy====

====Business model====

====Market control====

==Incidents==

===Proprietary smart-home ecosystem===

Miele appliances are equipped with online functionality, and protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration is provided although Miele is part of CSA.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele |url=https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=CSA |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250120130535/https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |archive-date=20 Jan 2025}}</ref>

~~== Proprietary Smart home ecosystem ==~~

Instead Miele offers its own protocol which is difficult to set up, needs a Miele Developer Account<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele 3rd Party API Version 1.0.7 |url=https://www.miele.com/developer/ |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Miele]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251104153124/https://www.miele.com/developer/ |archive-date=4 Nov 2025}}</ref> and is only practical for technically experienced users.

Miele ~~appliances are equipped with online functionality~~, ~~and protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration is provided although~~ Miele ~~is part of CSA.~~<ref>https://~~csa~~-~~iot~~.org/~~members~~/~~search~~/~~?m_keywords~~=~~miele~~</ref>,

~~Instead~~ Miele ~~offers its own protocol which is difficult~~ to ~~set up~~, ~~needs a Miele Developer Account<ref>~~https://~~www.miele~~.com/~~developer~~/~~</ref> and is only practical for technically experienced users~~.

Miele devices do not offer any official local API and instead require a connection to Miele's cloud service for any form of integration or app control to work. However, recent efforts of the [https://github.com/akappner/MieleRESTServer MieleRESTServer project] seem to have had success in controlling some devices via the local network through unofficial means.

== Miele ~~App Incident~~ ==

===Miele app incident (2021)===

With Version 4.0 released in 2021, the Miele companion app had suddenly lost critical advertised features<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Miele/comments/ph4udc/twindos_detergent_container_levels_no_longer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1~~&utm_content~~=~~share_button~~</ref> such as:

With Version 4.0 released in 2021, the Miele companion app had suddenly lost critical advertised features<ref>{{Cite web |title=TwinDos detergent container levels no longer editable on new Miele home app? |url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Miele/comments/ph4udc/twindos_detergent_container_levels_no_longer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1 |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref> such as:

* '''The washing assistant'''

*'''The washing assistant'''

* '''The ability to view the remaining detergent in washing machines.'''

*'''The ability to view the remaining detergent in washing machines.'''

These functions came back slowly in 2022 after lots of negative feedback from users.

===Forced updates (2022)===

A user on X has reported that their dishwasher refuses to start unless the user run an update which the device has found after being connected to a WiFi.<ref>{{Cite web |last=@isislovecruft |date=31 Jan 2022 |title=my dishwasher won’t start until i let it update its firmware over the wifi |url=https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |url-status=live |access-date=19 Mar 2025 |website=[[X]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250708184047/https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |archive-date=8 Jul 2025}}</ref>

==Products==

== See also ==

* [[Bosch]]

* [[GE Appliances]]

==References==

[[Category:Miele]]

[[Category:~~Home appliance manufacturers]]~~

~~[[Category:Vacuum cleaner manufacturers]]~~

~~[[Category:Manufacturing companies~~]]

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-{{InfoboxCompany
+{{Incomplete}}
-| Name = Miele
+{{CompanyCargo
-| Type = Private
+|Description=
-| Founded = 1899
+|Founded=1899
-| Industry = Manufacturing
+|Industry=Manufacturing
-| Official Website = https://miele.com/
+|Logo=Miele.png
-| Logo = Miele.png
+|ParentCompany=
+|Type=Private
+|Website=https://miele.com/
 }}
+'''[[Wikipedia:Miele|Miele]]''' is a German manufacturer of domestic appliances and commercial equipment. It  was founded in 1899 by Carl Miele and Reinhard Zinkann.
-Founded in 1899, '''[[Wikipedia:Miele|Miele]]''' is a German manufacturer of domestic appliances and commercial equipment.
+==Consumer-impact summary==
+====Freedom====
+====Privacy====
+====Business model====
+====Market control====
+==Incidents==
+===Proprietary smart-home ecosystem===
+Miele appliances are equipped with online functionality, and protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration is provided although Miele is part of CSA.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele |url=https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=CSA |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250120130535/https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele |archive-date=20 Jan 2025}}</ref>
-== Proprietary Smart home ecosystem ==
+Instead Miele offers its own protocol which is difficult to set up, needs a Miele Developer Account<ref>{{Cite web |title=Miele 3rd Party API Version 1.0.7 |url=https://www.miele.com/developer/ |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Miele]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20251104153124/https://www.miele.com/developer/ |archive-date=4 Nov 2025}}</ref> and is only practical for technically experienced users.
-Miele appliances are equipped with online functionality, and protocols used for managing those appliances are proprietary. No Matter integration is provided although Miele is part of CSA.<ref>https://csa-iot.org/members/search/?m_keywords=miele</ref>,
-Instead Miele offers its own protocol which is difficult to set up, needs a Miele Developer Account<ref>https://www.miele.com/developer/</ref> and is only practical for technically experienced users.
+Miele devices do not offer any official local API and instead require a connection to Miele's cloud service for any form of integration or app control to work. However, recent efforts of the [https://github.com/akappner/MieleRESTServer MieleRESTServer project] seem to have had success in controlling some devices via the local network through unofficial means.
-==  Miele App Incident ==
+===Miele app incident (2021)===
-With Version 4.0 released in 2021, the Miele companion app had suddenly lost critical advertised features<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/Miele/comments/ph4udc/twindos_detergent_container_levels_no_longer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button</ref> such as:
+With Version 4.0 released in 2021, the Miele companion app had suddenly lost critical advertised features<ref>{{Cite web |title=TwinDos detergent container levels no longer editable on new Miele home app? |url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Miele/comments/ph4udc/twindos_detergent_container_levels_no_longer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1 |url-status=live |access-date=20 Mar 2025 |website=[[Reddit]]}}</ref> such as:
-* '''The washing assistant'''
+*'''The washing assistant'''
-* '''The ability to view the remaining detergent in washing machines.'''
+*'''The ability to view the remaining detergent in washing machines.'''
 These functions came back slowly in 2022 after lots of negative feedback from users.
+===Forced updates (2022)===
+A user on X has reported that their dishwasher refuses to start unless the user run an update which the device has found after being connected to a WiFi.<ref>{{Cite web |last=@isislovecruft |date=31 Jan 2022 |title=my dishwasher won’t start until i let it update its firmware over the wifi |url=https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |url-status=live |access-date=19 Mar 2025 |website=[[X]] |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20250708184047/https://x.com/isislovecruft/status/1487947074901463040 |archive-date=8 Jul 2025}}</ref>
+==Products==
+{{Ph-C-P}}
+== See also ==
+* [[Bosch]]
+* [[GE Appliances]]
+==References==
 <references />
+[[Category:Miele]]
-[[Category:Home appliance manufacturers]]
-[[Category:Vacuum cleaner manufacturers]]
-[[Category:Manufacturing companies]]