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Welcome to my page about [[wikipedia:Unix-like|anything Unix]]! Here you can learn about [[wikipedia:Linux|Linux]], [[Android]], and maybe even [[wikipedia:RedoxOS|Redox]] and [[wikipedia:Berkeley_Software_Distribution|BSD]].

The purpose of this page is to raise awareness about [[wikipedia:Operating_system|OSes]] that respect their users, and to propose them as alts for [[Microsoft Windows|~~Microslop~~ Winbloats]] and [[Apple macOS|Crapintosh]]. I know there are non-*nix systems that also honor their users, but "Unices" are more standard (both in practice, and [[wikipedia:POSIX|in theory]]), so it's more pragmatic to recommend *nix.

The purpose of this page is to raise awareness about [[wikipedia:Operating_system|OSes]] that respect their users, and to propose them as alts for [[User:Rudxain/Microslop|Microslop]] [[Microsoft Windows|Winbloats]] and [[Apple macOS|Crapintosh]]. I know there are non-*nix systems that also honor their users, but "Unices" are more standard (both in practice, and [[wikipedia:POSIX|in theory]]), so it's more pragmatic to recommend *nix.

==Why Unix?==

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===Android===

If you need Android but your [[List of phones that do not allow bootloader unlock|BL is perma-locked]], you can install [[wikipedia:Termux|Termux]], as it's more lightweight than a [[wikipedia:Virtual_machine|VM]]. If your [[Bootloader unlocking|BL is unlocked]], then try installing a [[wikipedia:List_of_custom_Android_distributions|custom "ROM"]] (I hate that term ~~so much. It~~'s clearly a [[wikipedia:Misnomer|misnomer]]). List of suggestions:

If you need Android but your [[List of phones that do not allow bootloader unlock|BL is perma-locked]], you can install [[wikipedia:Termux|Termux]], as it's more lightweight than a [[wikipedia:Virtual_machine|VM]]. If your [[Bootloader unlocking|BL is unlocked]], then try installing a [[wikipedia:List_of_custom_Android_distributions|custom "ROM"]] (I hate that term, it's clearly a [[wikipedia:Misnomer|misnomer]]). List of suggestions:

*[[GrapheneOS|Graphene]]

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Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:

*[[wikipedia:COSMIC_desktop|COSMIC]], which looks promising!

*[[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint

*There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}

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I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web |last=Evans |first=Julia |title=Reasons I still love the fish shell |url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref>(source correction: Bash has [[wikipedia:Bracketed-paste|bracketed-paste]] by default) simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])

Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too ~~weird for me, very~~ "[[wikipedia:PowerShell|PowerShelly]]", lol.

Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too "[[wikipedia:PowerShell|PowerShelly]]" for me, lol.

==Usage==

Your distro (and most installed packages) should have docs available locally as [[wikipedia:Man_page|<code>man</code>-pages]] or in <code>/usr/share/doc/</code>. Most DEs have a "Welcome" app that auto-starts on first login, so you should be good to go.

Your distro (and most installed packages) should have docs available locally as [[wikipedia:Man_page|<code>man</code>-pages]] or in <code>/usr/share/doc/</code>. Most DEs have a "Welcome" app that auto-starts on first login, so you should be good to go. If you encounter a compressed text file, such as <code>README.md.gz</code>, you can open it in any [[wikipedia:Terminal_pager|pager]]-like program (including text-editors, like [https://helix-editor.com/ Helix]) by running a command like <code>zcat README.md.gz | less</code>.

And please:

*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise~~. Although even then, if you use Mint or another user-friendly distro, you might not even need to touch the terminal~~.

*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise.

*Don't be afraid of CLI apps!<ref>https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-GUI</ref><ref>https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line</ref> Except <code>rm</code>, that one is dangerous unless you add <code>[https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/rm.html#:~:text=%2Di,-Prompt -i]</code>. See [https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#I-used-rm-to-remove-a-file_002e-How-can-I-get-it-back-now_003f how to recover deleted files].

*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-10-05 |title=Feature suggestion: Warnings regarding (automatic) recursive indirection/eval within \[\[ (( and $(( blocks |url=https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260420003136/https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |archive-date=2026-04-20 |access-date=2026-04-19 |website=GitHub}}</ref> I use Bash daily but I recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils].

*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-10-05 |title=Feature suggestion: Warnings regarding (automatic) recursive indirection/eval within \[\[ (( and $(( blocks |url=https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260420003136/https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |archive-date=2026-04-20 |access-date=2026-04-19 |website=GitHub}}</ref> I use Bash daily but I'd recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils] ([[wikipedia:Shill|shill]] alert!).

It's fine if you're not used to [[wikipedia:Text-based_user_interface|TUIs]], don't feel pressured. Depending on the distro you choose (e.g. Mint), TUIs aren't required at all.

Like many things in life, it might take you time to get comfortable with a different way to do things, this would be the case if you've been using TUIs your entire life and encountered a GUI. Arguably, GUIs tend to be more intuitive (on average) for most tasks, but TUIs can sometimes be more user-friendly than GUIs!

IMO, the "holy war" of GUI vs TUI is pointless, both excel at different things. I typically use this example:

*A camera app is clearly better as a GUI. Real-time photo-previews are one of the main reasons why digital cameras made film-based cameras "obsolete".

*A calculator app is better as a TUI (unless it's a graphing-calc), because you're not limited by a custom keyboard (unless you're using a tiny touchscreen, because custom keyboards have bigger keys). Also, most TUI calculators (such as <code>[[wikipedia:Bc_(programming_language)|bc]]</code>) support looping and conditional constructs. And you're dealing with mostly-alphanumeric data anyways, so a GUI would feel "forced" and inconsistent.

Personally, I have a preference for TUIs, simply because they tend to not be bloated. But I love GUIs when they're implemented properly!

==External links==

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 Welcome to my page about [[wikipedia:Unix-like|anything Unix]]! Here you can learn about [[wikipedia:Linux|Linux]], [[Android]], and maybe even [[wikipedia:RedoxOS|Redox]] and [[wikipedia:Berkeley_Software_Distribution|BSD]].
-The purpose of this page is to raise awareness about [[wikipedia:Operating_system|OSes]] that respect their users, and to propose them as alts for [[Microsoft Windows|Microslop Winbloats]] and [[Apple macOS|Crapintosh]]. I know there are non-*nix systems that also honor their users, but "Unices" are more standard (both in practice, and [[wikipedia:POSIX|in theory]]), so it's more pragmatic to recommend *nix.
+The purpose of this page is to raise awareness about [[wikipedia:Operating_system|OSes]] that respect their users, and to propose them as alts for [[User:Rudxain/Microslop|Microslop]] [[Microsoft Windows|Winbloats]] and [[Apple macOS|Crapintosh]]. I know there are non-*nix systems that also honor their users, but "Unices" are more standard (both in practice, and [[wikipedia:POSIX|in theory]]), so it's more pragmatic to recommend *nix.
 ==Why Unix?==
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 ===Android===
-If you need Android but your [[List of phones that do not allow bootloader unlock|BL is perma-locked]], you can install [[wikipedia:Termux|Termux]], as it's more lightweight than a [[wikipedia:Virtual_machine|VM]]. If your [[Bootloader unlocking|BL is unlocked]], then try installing a [[wikipedia:List_of_custom_Android_distributions|custom "ROM"]] (I hate that term so much. It's clearly a [[wikipedia:Misnomer|misnomer]]). List of suggestions:
+If you need Android but your [[List of phones that do not allow bootloader unlock|BL is perma-locked]], you can install [[wikipedia:Termux|Termux]], as it's more lightweight than a [[wikipedia:Virtual_machine|VM]]. If your [[Bootloader unlocking|BL is unlocked]], then try installing a [[wikipedia:List_of_custom_Android_distributions|custom "ROM"]] (I hate that term, it's clearly a [[wikipedia:Misnomer|misnomer]]). List of suggestions:
 *[[GrapheneOS|Graphene]]
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 Everything else is "less standard", but still worth trying:
+*[[wikipedia:COSMIC_desktop|COSMIC]], which looks promising!
 *[[wikipedia:Cinnamon_(desktop_environment)|Cinnamon]] is the default on Mint
 *There's also [[wikipedia:Xfce|Xfce]], if you want less bloat, but I've read that nowadays its [[wikipedia:Memory_footprint|memory footprint]] is in the same [[wikipedia:Guesstimate|ballpark]] as Plasma and GNOME.{{Citation needed}}
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 I haven't tried Fish, because it looks bloated. However, I'd recommend it over Zsh,<ref>{{Cite web |last=Evans |first=Julia |title=Reasons I still love the fish shell |url=https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260304110218/https://jvns.ca/blog/2024/09/12/reasons-i--still--love-fish/ |archive-date=2026-03-04 |access-date=2026-04-19}}</ref>(source correction: Bash has [[wikipedia:Bracketed-paste|bracketed-paste]] by default) simply because Zsh is too similar to Bash. If you use a non-POSIX shell, why not go all the way and enjoy the benefits? ;) (the Zsh condition [https://pointersgonewild.com/2024/04/20/the-alternative-implementation-problem/ is sad])
-Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too weird for me, very "[[wikipedia:PowerShell|PowerShelly]]", lol.
+Since we're talking about "anti-POSIX", maybe try [https://www.nushell.sh/ Nushell]? It's too "[[wikipedia:PowerShell|PowerShelly]]" for me, lol.
 ==Usage==
-Your distro (and most installed packages) should have docs available locally as [[wikipedia:Man_page|<code>man</code>-pages]] or in <code>/usr/share/doc/</code>. Most DEs have a "Welcome" app that auto-starts on first login, so you should be good to go.
+Your distro (and most installed packages) should have docs available locally as [[wikipedia:Man_page|<code>man</code>-pages]] or in <code>/usr/share/doc/</code>. Most DEs have a "Welcome" app that auto-starts on first login, so you should be good to go. If you encounter a compressed text file, such as <code>README.md.gz</code>, you can open it in any [[wikipedia:Terminal_pager|pager]]-like program (including text-editors, like [https://helix-editor.com/ Helix]) by running a command like <code>zcat README.md.gz | less</code>.
 And please:
-*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise. Although even then, if you use Mint or another user-friendly distro, you might not even need to touch the terminal.
+*Don't be afraid of the [[wikipedia:Terminal_emulator|terminal]]! Terminals are your friend. Don't let Big <s>Brother</s> Tech tell you otherwise.
 *Don't be afraid of CLI apps!<ref>https://github.com/you-dont-need/You-Dont-Need-GUI</ref><ref>https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line</ref> Except <code>rm</code>, that one is dangerous unless you add <code>[https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/utilities/rm.html#:~:text=%2Di,-Prompt -i]</code>. See [https://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/coreutils-faq.html#I-used-rm-to-remove-a-file_002e-How-can-I-get-it-back-now_003f how to recover deleted files].
-*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-10-05 |title=Feature suggestion: Warnings regarding (automatic) recursive indirection/eval within \[\[ (( and $(( blocks |url=https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260420003136/https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |archive-date=2026-04-20 |access-date=2026-04-19 |website=GitHub}}</ref> I use Bash daily but I recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils].
+*Don't be afraid of [[wikipedia:Unix_shell|shells]]! except Bash, that one is a menace.<ref>https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls</ref><ref>https://github.com/anordal/shellharden/blob/1e629728e37d2e78dd3a06ed69cd54e2f66b87b0/how_to_do_things_safely_in_bash.md</ref><ref>https://github.com/oils-for-unix/oils/wiki/Shell-WTFs</ref><ref>{{Cite web |date=2024-10-05 |title=Feature suggestion: Warnings regarding (automatic) recursive indirection/eval within \[\[ (( and $(( blocks |url=https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260420003136/https://github.com/koalaman/shellcheck/issues/3067 |archive-date=2026-04-20 |access-date=2026-04-19 |website=GitHub}}</ref> I use Bash daily but I'd recommend [https://oils.pub/ Oils] ([[wikipedia:Shill|shill]] alert!).
+It's fine if you're not used to [[wikipedia:Text-based_user_interface|TUIs]], don't feel pressured. Depending on the distro you choose (e.g. Mint), TUIs aren't required at all.
+Like many things in life, it might take you time to get comfortable with a different way to do things, this would be the case if you've been using TUIs your entire life and encountered a GUI. Arguably, GUIs tend to be more intuitive (on average) for most tasks, but TUIs can sometimes be more user-friendly than GUIs!
+IMO, the "holy war" of GUI vs TUI is pointless, both excel at different things. I typically use this example:<!-- Please suggest better examples, lol -->
+*A camera app is clearly better as a GUI. Real-time photo-previews are one of the main reasons why digital cameras made film-based cameras "obsolete".
+*A calculator app is better as a TUI (unless it's a graphing-calc), because you're not limited by a custom keyboard (unless you're using a tiny touchscreen, because custom keyboards have bigger keys). Also, most TUI calculators (such as <code>[[wikipedia:Bc_(programming_language)|bc]]</code>) support looping and conditional constructs. And you're dealing with mostly-alphanumeric data anyways, so a GUI would feel "forced" and inconsistent.
+Personally, I have a preference for TUIs, simply because they tend to not be bloated. But I love GUIs when they're implemented properly!
 ==External links==