Talk:Bambu Lab Authorization Control System: Difference between revisions
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==Free Software Foundation inquiry== | |||
Because OrcaSlicer contains GPLv3‑licensed code, any claim that users cannot fork, modify, or redistribute it would represent a misinterpretation of GPLv3 and could have broader implications for the copyleft ecosystem. Given the potential impact, it may be worth inquiring whether the Free Software Foundation is aware of the situation. Even a simple clarifying statement from the FSF would help assert the correct interpretation of GPLv3 and bring wider awareness to an issue that may affect more than just this one project. | |||
The Free Software Foundation (FSF) serves as the primary steward of the GPL and AGPL licenses and periodically issues clarifying statements when these licenses are misunderstood or misrepresented. The FSF has emphasized that the AGPL cannot be used to impose additional restrictions or limit users’ rights to modify, fork, or redistribute software, as explained in its statement “The AGPL is not a tool for taking freedom away” ( https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/agpl-is-not-a-tool-for-taking-freedom-away ). Because the FSF’s mission includes defending correct copyleft interpretation, situations involving potential misuse of GPL/AGPL terms may warrant their attention. Information about FSF governance and board membership is available at https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board. | |||
==Bad experience== | ==Bad experience== | ||
I am not a bambu labs customer. I planned to be. But I spoke on their official facebook forum about a problem with a sunlu printer asking if anyone on there may know because the sunlu paths to help were fruitless. Immediately, people were crying that I had mentioned another printer brand and how that was irrelevant but I was pleading to the experts for a bit of help. Moments later, Bambu Lab staff banned me from the group. I binned the plan to become a customer right there. Some of the customer base and indeed the company, are toxic. Now I see this plan to own their customer base and I sure this is illegal with not logical reason - remember an airgapped network has only it's own security issues, one way traffic is a thing - except a poor excuse. Good luck in changing them. I dare say they will refuse all the way. | I am not a bambu labs customer. I planned to be. But I spoke on their official facebook forum about a problem with a sunlu printer asking if anyone on there may know because the sunlu paths to help were fruitless. Immediately, people were crying that I had mentioned another printer brand and how that was irrelevant but I was pleading to the experts for a bit of help. Moments later, Bambu Lab staff banned me from the group. I binned the plan to become a customer right there. Some of the customer base and indeed the company, are toxic. Now I see this plan to own their customer base and I sure this is illegal with not logical reason - remember an airgapped network has only it's own security issues, one way traffic is a thing - except a poor excuse. Good luck in changing them. I dare say they will refuse all the way. | ||
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==Bambu Lab press release== | ==Bambu Lab press release== | ||
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:As the statement "Paweł Jarczak personally cannot bring a direct AGPL enforcement action against Bambu Lab. The right to sue for AGPL violations belongs to the original authors whose code Bambu Lab built on top of: the Slic3r contributors, Prusa Research and the PrusaSlicer contributors, and the SoftFever / OrcaSlicer maintainers. Jarczak's role in any formal complaint is reporter and witness, not plaintiff." is currently uncited (as in there is no legal opinion that supports the assertion), I'm honestly fine to just delete or comment out the section for now if there is any doubt over its accuracy. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:06, 13 May 2026 (UTC) | :As the statement "Paweł Jarczak personally cannot bring a direct AGPL enforcement action against Bambu Lab. The right to sue for AGPL violations belongs to the original authors whose code Bambu Lab built on top of: the Slic3r contributors, Prusa Research and the PrusaSlicer contributors, and the SoftFever / OrcaSlicer maintainers. Jarczak's role in any formal complaint is reporter and witness, not plaintiff." is currently uncited (as in there is no legal opinion that supports the assertion), I'm honestly fine to just delete or comment out the section for now if there is any doubt over its accuracy. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:06, 13 May 2026 (UTC) | ||
::I've not seen the leonard french video, but it would certianly be an appropriate thing to cite for any legal commentary on the case [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:06, 13 May 2026 (UTC) | ::I've not seen the leonard french video, but it would certianly be an appropriate thing to cite for any legal commentary on the case [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:06, 13 May 2026 (UTC) | ||
:::It's his most recent one, here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tdZ5Z7nRDY | |||
:::As for the specific wording in the article, I'm no lawyer either so I didn't want to edit it directly or suggest a specific wording, but as a regular user it's quite discouraging, so I can absolutely get behind commenting it out, until it's either established by a proper legal opinion, or definitively refuted by one. But it's your call. I'm not sure if Leonard French specifically said Jarczak has standing, but I think he did imply it, if I remember correctly. [[User:B3nsn0w|B3nsn0w]] ([[User talk:B3nsn0w|talk]]) 15:12, 13 May 2026 (UTC) | |||
== Split the page? == | |||
As it is, this page is rather unwieldy. This could probably be resolved to some extent by restructuring and making things a bit clearer that way, but it might be that it makes sense to separate the Paweł Jarczak stuff into its own incident. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:39, 13 May 2026 (UTC) | |||