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::::Thanks. If that page were to be resurrected, it will be pretty much a single-topic page focusing on the Wikipedia misleading donation and financial cancer issues, right? Perhaps for clarification there should be an external link section to a page on SourceWatch or so on that documents Wikipedia-related issues, along with a small note clarifying that most of the information on there can't be included here due to guideline restrictions, but the external link to the page containing the info is included just as courtesy for readers.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29|15.181.161.29]] 12:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
::::Thanks. If that page were to be resurrected, it will be pretty much a single-topic page focusing on the Wikipedia misleading donation and financial cancer issues, right? Perhaps for clarification there should be an external link section to a page on SourceWatch or so on that documents Wikipedia-related issues, along with a small note clarifying that most of the information on there can't be included here due to guideline restrictions, but the external link to the page containing the info is included just as courtesy for readers.[[Special:Contributions/15.181.161.29|15.181.161.29]] 12:16, 3 June 2026 (UTC)


== Logos (and Style Guide / Templates) ==
==Logos (and Style Guide / Templates)==
 
'''tl;dr: Enabling InstantCommons could be a huge help site-wide. Let's add <code>$wgUseInstantCommons = true;</code> to the LocalSettings.php file on the server.
'''


CRW can use content from Wikimedia Commons much like Wikipedia does with a small configuration change.   Currently, a file can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons or Wikipedia, and it's as if the file exists on Wikipedia if it's just on Commons.  
CRW can use content from Wikimedia Commons much like Wikipedia does with a small configuration change.   Currently, a file can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons or Wikipedia, and it's as if the file exists on Wikipedia if it's just on Commons.  


Would save trouble - <nowiki>https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Talk:DuckDuckGo#Logo</nowiki>, issues I see like comments asking people to use better filenames and the logo category would all go away.   And [company/productName logo.svg] could be the default instead of [[:File:QuestionMark.svg]]!   
Would save trouble - issues I see like comments asking people to use better filenames and the use logo category, and https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Talk:DuckDuckGo#Logo would all go away.   And [company/productName_logo.svg] could be the default instead of [[:File:QuestionMark.svg]]!   


In other words, [https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Ecobee&diff=prev&oldid=58644 this edit] should just work, and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ecobee_logo.svg should display. Notice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ecobee_logo.svg doesn't have an edit button; the file doesn't exist there.  
In other words, [https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Ecobee&diff=prev&oldid=58644 this edit] should just work, and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ecobee_logo.svg should display. Notice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ecobee_logo.svg doesn't have an edit button; the file doesn't exist there.  


IANAL, but I'm pretty sure there's no legal issue with doing this.  They say hotlinking, as it's called, is allowed, here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia: " '''Use it''': Download or hotlink the file and use it. (See [[commons:Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia/technical|Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia/technical]].)"
Pretty confident there's no legal or technical issue with doing this.  They say hotlinking, as it's called, is allowed, here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia: " '''Use it''': Download or hotlink the file and use it. ('''See [[commons:Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia/technical|Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia/technical]].''')"
 
I guess @[[User:Keith|Keith]] needs to add the line.  Or if someone grants me access, I'll edit <s>[[Special:FilePath]] or</s> the server's copy of LocalSettings.php accordingly to make this work. (For the latter, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons, a firewall tweak <u>may</u> be needed if we go the InstantCommons route.)  [[User:CrookKilla|CrookKilla]] ([[User talk:CrookKilla|talk]]) 19:02, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
 
:Update2:  I was confused by bad documentation. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Redirect/file/Ecobee_logo.svg would work (hotlinking), but I think [[Special:FilePath]], aka [[Special:Redirect]] is of no use for including an image in a ''wiki'' page.  So I think InstantCommons is the way to go.  (It comes pre-installed, so it's vetted; it just needs to be turned on but it requires server access to add one line the server's copy of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php.)  --[[User:CrookKilla|CrookKilla]] ([[User talk:CrookKilla|talk]]) 22:32, 22 June 2026 (UTC)


If someone grants me access, I'll edit [[Special:FilePath]] or  [[LocalSettings.php]] accordingly to make this work. (For the latter, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/InstantCommons, a firewall tweak <u>may</u> be needed if we go the InstantCommons route.[[User:CrookKilla|CrookKilla]] ([[User talk:CrookKilla|talk]]) 19:02, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
=== Importing Templates ===
:Oh, and do we have an admin who can import templates from Wikipedia or are you looking for one? [[Special:Import]] requires the mop too. I used [[Template:Dead link]] recently at [[eBay]] (before it existed), and <s>would like</s> ''wanted'' to import it so it would ''work'', but I saw the Wikipedia version has a bunch of dependencies: Template:Fix, Module:Yesno, Module:Arguments, the '''whole freaking''' Module:Citation/CS1, and sub-Modules (they're ~half the file), Module:Protection banner+sub and Module:Documentation+subs (~5% each), Module:Check for unknown parameters, Module:Navbox, Template:Dead link/styles.css, and related meta-templates ~50 "pages" total. Apparently, essential backend extensions like Scribunto, ParserFunctions, and TemplateStyles must be installed, with a full export via Special:Export recommended to ensure all dependencies are included. The export produces a ridiculously huge 1.1MB file if I check "Include templates" (required; otherwise, it's tiny).
:'''SUCCESS'''!  Relatively minimalist  [[Template:Dead link]]  forked off Wikia instead. Works!  Having a strategy re https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/117429/how-to-use-wikipedia-templates-on-an-outside-mediawiki would be good.  We have so I presume we already imported CS1, or does it come with MediWiki?  I see we do NOT have citation (CS1, CS2, etc) templates; citations work through Modules, so those templates are not needed, apparently. [[User:CrookKilla|CrookKilla]] ([[User talk:CrookKilla|talk]]) 20:52, 22 June 2026 (UTC)