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#'''Supporting informed purchases''' - moderation also forces sellers to provide buyers sufficient information to make informed decisions on their purchases. Bad moderation may result in buyers being unable to make informed decisions and could result in otherwise preventable returns and loss of revenue.
#'''Supporting informed purchases''' - moderation also forces sellers to provide buyers sufficient information to make informed decisions on their purchases. Bad moderation may result in buyers being unable to make informed decisions and could result in otherwise preventable returns and loss of revenue.


=== Relevant seller rules ===
===Relevant seller rules===
These rules will be referred back to multiple times so it is only sensible to list them out beforehand
These rules will be referred back to multiple times so it is only sensible to list them out beforehand


==== eBay rules for sellers ====
====eBay rules for sellers====
The following descriptions are taken directly from the eBay seller practices policy page.<ref>[https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-policies/selling-practices-policy?id=4346 "Seller Practices Policy"] - ebay.com - accessed 2025-01-30</ref>
The following descriptions are taken directly from the eBay seller practices policy page.<ref>[https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-policies/selling-practices-policy?id=4346 "Seller Practices Policy"] - ebay.com - accessed 2025-01-30</ref>


====== Item descriptions ======
======Item descriptions======
In regards to item descriptions eBay has the following requirements:
In regards to item descriptions eBay has the following requirements:<ref>[[:File:E bay policy item description.png|"eBay seller item description policies"]] - wiki.rossmanngroup.com - accessed 2025-01-30</ref>
{{Quote|The listing page is where buyers get most of their information about an item. Information in the listing helps buyers decide what to buy and know what to expect when they receive the item. It's important to make sure that the listing is only used to describe the item for sale and to communicate the terms of the sale in a professional way.
{{Quote|The listing page is where buyers get most of their information about an item. Information in the listing helps buyers decide what to buy and know what to expect when they receive the item. It's important to make sure that the listing is only used to describe the item for sale and to communicate the terms of the sale in a professional way.


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Note: When selling a used, refurbished, or flawed item, you must include photos of the actual item for sale instead of a stock photo.
Note: When selling a used, refurbished, or flawed item, you must include photos of the actual item for sale instead of a stock photo.
}}
}}Any items that fail to meet description requirements should be at the very least temporarily taken off sale until the seller corrects the information. The "Note" section is also extremely important as it prohibits using stock photos for modified or flawed items.


===Examples of moderation failures===
===Examples of moderation failures===


==== Missing information in Spotify Car Thing resales ====
====Missing information in Spotify Car Thing resales====
The [[Spotify Car Thing]] (SCT) is a now discontinued and bricked-out-of-the-box product that continues to be sold on some online marketplaces. There are legitimate reasons to sell discontinued or bricked products: some people may be interested in refurbishing them, they may want to use components for their own purposes, etc. Even with the positives in mind consumers have an expectation that the seller is honest, platforms must moderate content such that the consumer is aware of any flaws in the purchase. The SCT is a perfect item to demonstrate that companies do not moderate the content properly.
The [[Spotify Car Thing]] (SCT) is a now discontinued and bricked-out-of-the-box product that continues to be sold on some online marketplaces. There are legitimate reasons to sell discontinued or bricked products: some people may be interested in refurbishing them, they may want to use components for their own purposes, etc. Even with the positives in mind consumers have an expectation that the seller is honest, platforms must moderate content such that the consumer is aware of any flaws in the purchase. The SCT is a perfect item to demonstrate that companies do not moderate the content properly.


===== Ebay listings are inaccurate =====
=====eBay listings violate the policy=====<!-- Note: this may violate the no "do your own research policy" but given its relevance I'm including it. -->
 
It is not difficult to find several examples of the SCT being sold on eBay with objectively inadequate descriptions. A snapshot of all 63 posts found searching for "Spotify Car Thing" selling a Spotify Car Thing was made on 2025-01-30 at 3:15pm ET and stored as a .csv.<ref name=":0">[[:File:Ebay spotify car thing posts.csv.pdf|"Ebay spotify car thing posts.csv.pdf"]] - wiki.rossmanngroup.com - accessed 2025-01-31</ref> The findings of the snapshot are particularly concerning towards the efficacy of eBay's moderation system.
 
#29 (46%) of all postings are "new" condition.<ref name=":0" />
#3 (4%) of all titles included "bricked" or similar.<ref name=":0" />
#3. 13 (20%) of all titles included discontinued.<ref name=":0" />
#6 (9%) of all titles included mention of hacks or "DeskThing" - some are even pre-hacked.<ref name=":0" />
#14 (22%) of descriptions mentioned the bricking.<ref name=":0" />
#28 (44%) of descriptions mentioned discontinuation.<ref name=":0" />
#18 (28%) mentioned desk thing or hacks.<ref name=":0" />
#3 posts had no description at all.<ref name=":0" /><ref>[https://archive.ph/4VEhS "Spotify Car Thing posting"] - archive.ph - archived 2025-01-31</ref>
#The average price was $161.54 - Car Thing originally costed $89.99. The max price was $350, min was $30 (around the min price spotify sold it at).<ref name=":0" />
 
The fact that even just one post exists without a description for a product that effectively does not work without significant modification is evidence that eBay does not truly require an accurate description and that eBay does not take pre-emptive steps to protect consumers from potentially bad products sold on the platform.


==References==
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Latest revision as of 18:00, 6 March 2025

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This stub will be used to document the significant issues with moderation in online marketplaces that impact consumers by exposing them to potential scams and harmful products.

Why moderation is important[edit | edit source]

Before getting to the examples of bad moderation its important to understand why moderation is important. Here's a summary:

  1. Protection from malicious scams - the most obvious purpose of moderation is to protect consumers from malicious scams especially those that use false advertising to attract customers.
  2. Supporting informed purchases - moderation also forces sellers to provide buyers sufficient information to make informed decisions on their purchases. Bad moderation may result in buyers being unable to make informed decisions and could result in otherwise preventable returns and loss of revenue.

Relevant seller rules[edit | edit source]

These rules will be referred back to multiple times so it is only sensible to list them out beforehand

eBay rules for sellers[edit | edit source]

The following descriptions are taken directly from the eBay seller practices policy page.[1]

Item descriptions[edit | edit source]

In regards to item descriptions eBay has the following requirements:[2]

The listing page is where buyers get most of their information about an item. Information in the listing helps buyers decide what to buy and know what to expect when they receive the item. It's important to make sure that the listing is only used to describe the item for sale and to communicate the terms of the sale in a professional way.

You're required to:

  • Specify the condition of the item
  • Describe any defects or flaws in the item – this helps avoid problems or buyer dissatisfaction

Note: When selling a used, refurbished, or flawed item, you must include photos of the actual item for sale instead of a stock photo.

Any items that fail to meet description requirements should be at the very least temporarily taken off sale until the seller corrects the information. The "Note" section is also extremely important as it prohibits using stock photos for modified or flawed items.

Examples of moderation failures[edit | edit source]

Missing information in Spotify Car Thing resales[edit | edit source]

The Spotify Car Thing (SCT) is a now discontinued and bricked-out-of-the-box product that continues to be sold on some online marketplaces. There are legitimate reasons to sell discontinued or bricked products: some people may be interested in refurbishing them, they may want to use components for their own purposes, etc. Even with the positives in mind consumers have an expectation that the seller is honest, platforms must moderate content such that the consumer is aware of any flaws in the purchase. The SCT is a perfect item to demonstrate that companies do not moderate the content properly.

eBay listings violate the policy[edit | edit source]

It is not difficult to find several examples of the SCT being sold on eBay with objectively inadequate descriptions. A snapshot of all 63 posts found searching for "Spotify Car Thing" selling a Spotify Car Thing was made on 2025-01-30 at 3:15pm ET and stored as a .csv.[3] The findings of the snapshot are particularly concerning towards the efficacy of eBay's moderation system.

  1. 29 (46%) of all postings are "new" condition.[3]
  2. 3 (4%) of all titles included "bricked" or similar.[3]
  3. 3. 13 (20%) of all titles included discontinued.[3]
  4. 6 (9%) of all titles included mention of hacks or "DeskThing" - some are even pre-hacked.[3]
  5. 14 (22%) of descriptions mentioned the bricking.[3]
  6. 28 (44%) of descriptions mentioned discontinuation.[3]
  7. 18 (28%) mentioned desk thing or hacks.[3]
  8. 3 posts had no description at all.[3][4]
  9. The average price was $161.54 - Car Thing originally costed $89.99. The max price was $350, min was $30 (around the min price spotify sold it at).[3]

The fact that even just one post exists without a description for a product that effectively does not work without significant modification is evidence that eBay does not truly require an accurate description and that eBay does not take pre-emptive steps to protect consumers from potentially bad products sold on the platform.

References[edit | edit source]

  1. "Seller Practices Policy" - ebay.com - accessed 2025-01-30
  2. "eBay seller item description policies" - wiki.rossmanngroup.com - accessed 2025-01-30
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 "Ebay spotify car thing posts.csv.pdf" - wiki.rossmanngroup.com - accessed 2025-01-31
  4. "Spotify Car Thing posting" - archive.ph - archived 2025-01-31