User talk:Keith

Alexa (talk) 16 May 2025

Hello @Keith,

I'm interested in helping with the wiki, and specifically I have real world example, but would like to check if it's a good fit here or not.

And I can't talk in discord, as it's forcing me to submit my email.

Is this a good place to start conversation on adding new company, and fitness of the case.

Thank you.

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Hi @Alexa!

No problem at all - go ahead and let me know what your thought is and I'll give you my thoughts on whether/how it fits on the wiki!

Keith (talk) 20:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Alexa (talk) 06:36, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

@Keith,

There is company in California that offers indoor skydiving, and obviously they have waiver to sign (with arbitration 😃), but it's not the issue I found there, but that part of that waiver is "consent" to "grant exclusive permission" to take photo/video, and use it in their promotional materials, and there is no way to sign the waiver without consenting to that photo/video permission, online form doesn't allow you to proceed. And even when we went to the place itself, staff said that "corporate doesn't allow them to print out forms to fill out, anymore, and all waivers need to be filled in online", means we can't opt out from that photo/video consent. So my kid ended up not taking that "flight", because we couldn't sign the waiver without consenting to photos.

Thank you.

Alexa (talk) 17 May 2025

@Alexa

I think that fits the bill - although it's a smaller company, it fits within the frame of modern consumer protection and demonstrates how draconian the terms for even something like that can be. Go for it! I'd probably say that this is a case where a company article can be created, and the TOS issue can be neatly summarised within it, as opposed to being a seperate incident article.

Edit: actually, I might have got ahead of myself - is this something which has been covered or discussed annywhere other than by yourself? If not, it may fall foul of the No Original Research rule, although a very basic page which basically just lays out the facts which can be established from their website and TOS, and does not provide any commentary beyond this, might be ok.

Keith (talk) 07:55, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Re: CAT Documentation

@Keith I've replied to your message at User talk:Travis. Let me know if you'd like to discuss further approaches to organizing the documentation. Travis (talk) 14:43, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Delegating tasks

Hello Keith,

You said at the meetup that you found it easy to delegate.

This interests me because when I was in business, I found it difficult delegate: did not believe people could not do a good enough job and I would be still responsible for the results.

Is this topic of interest to you?

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Janosabel (talk) 22:48, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

I think that in the context of wikis or any kind of community project, one needs to be able to trust others to get anywhere (perhaps with some verification too at times).

I'm under absolutely no illusion that I can do all or even much of this by myself, and we have some really talented and great people on the team!

There's no way of achieving the results we'd want without spreading the workload and decision-making responsibility. Keith (talk) 09:33, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

I understand what you mean.

Just realised, I was speaking about me half a century ago; and not being able to trust delegees cost me a burnout. Without delegation even if imperfect, what must be done cannot be done.

Unfortunately I cannot help by contributing to the Wiki for lack of academic training in the required writing style, but put on my talk page a witness account how supermarkets expanding to local areas are killing independent small traders.

PS. What is the difference between <edit source> and using the <reply> button? Janosabel (talk) 20:05, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

I think the reply button just opens up a small window of the editor, and applies the signature to the message automatically? I'll have a look at what you mentioned, but I'm not sure it quite fits the theme of the Wiki, as we're keeping it focused on anti-consumer activities, rather than general issues with corporate behaviour.

And yes, I'll be careful on burnout! I want to avoid the combination of this and my day job driving me mad... Keith (talk) 23:02, 14 February 2025 (UTC)