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ManyCam is a live video-streaming software application owned by [[Paltalk]], formerly known as [[AVM Software]]. ManyCam.com describes the application as
ManyCam is a live video-streaming software application owned by [[Paltalk]], formerly known as [[AVM Software]]. ManyCam.com describes the application as:
<blockquote>an easy-to-use virtual camera and live streaming software that helps you deliver professional live videos on streaming platforms, video conferencing apps, and remote learning tools.</blockquote>
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== Controversies ==
== Revoking of lifetime licenses ==
In the summer of 2022 Paltalk [[Retroactively amended purchase|retroactively amended]] the purchase of it ManyCam software, blocking "Lifetime" subscribers from updating to the newest version, leaving them without access to their software.


=== Lifetime licenses ===
Prior to ManyCam's acquisition by Paltalk in 2022, ManyCam offered lifetime licenses which were advertised as including all future versions and upgrades for a one-time payment a fact made evinted by the staments on the ManyCam website, up until March 2002, that <q>Any paid ManyCam Lifetime subscription allows you to upgrade the ManyCam software for free whenever a newer version of ManyCam is released</q> and that <q>ManyCam Lifetime subscription plans are a one-time payment, no renewal or other fees included</q><ref name="ManyCam Knowledge Base: Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?"> [https://web.archive.org/web/20220317113659/https://help.manycam.com/knowledge-base/manycam-devices-video-sources/ "ManyCam Knowledge Base: Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?"] manycam.com via The Internet Archive </ref>.


Prior to ManyCam's acquisition by Paltalk in 2022, ManyCam offered lifetime licenses which were advertised as including all future versions and upgrades for a one-time payment.
After acquiring ManyCam in June 2022, Paltalk released an update out for customers to upgrade to ManyCam 8.0.0, a version of the software with which the lifetime licenses did not work.<ref name="ManyCam Forum: Activation many cam 8 and many cam lite - 2022-07-05"> [https://web.archive.org/web/20220705084722/https://forum.manycam.com/t/activation-many-cam-8-and-many-cam-lite/6448 "ManyCam Forum: Activation many cam 8 and many cam lite"] manycam.com via The Internet Archive on July 5th, 2022</ref>


The ManyCam website prior to March 2022 stated that <q>Any paid ManyCam Lifetime subscription allows you to upgrade the ManyCam software for free whenever a newer version of ManyCam is released</q> and that <q>ManyCam Lifetime subscription plans are a one-time payment, no renewal or other fees included</q><ref name="ManyCam Knowledge Base: Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?"> [https://web.archive.org/web/20220317113659/https://help.manycam.com/knowledge-base/manycam-devices-video-sources/ "ManyCam Knowledge Base: Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?"] manycam.com via The Internet Archive </ref>
As ManyCam 7 was configured by default to notify users of any new versions available for upgrades under the "lifetime" license, many users followed the usual upgrade path to ManyCam 8, and were unable to activate their "lifetime" license as usual.<ref name="ManyCam Forum: Activation many cam 8 and many cam lite - 2022-07-05" />Presumably this was not properly communicated with many customers, as many expressed their surprise when their lifetime licenses stopped working like they used to. <ref name="ManyCam Forums: Don't Upgrade to ManyCam 8! - 2022-07-05">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220705095408/https://forum.manycam.com/t/dont-upgrade-to-manycam-8/6440 "ManyCam Forums: Don't Upgrade to ManyCam 8!"] forum.manycam.com via The Internet Archive on July 5th, 2022</ref>
[[File:ManyCam 7 Lifetime Studio notifies of updates by default.png|alt=A screenshot of ManyCam 7 with Lifetime Studio with default settings. The "Notify me about new ManyCam versions" setting is enabled by default.|thumb|A screenshot of ManyCam 7 Lifetime Studio with default settings.  The "Notify me about new ManyCam versions" setting is enabled by default.]]On July 1st 2022, a "Guest Writer" who was posting under the guise of Visicom Media, the previous owner, made a blog post on the official ManyCam.com website: <ref name="ManyCam Blog: Update for ManyCam Lifetime Subscriptions">[https://web.archive.org/web/20230531011812/https://manycam.com/blog/update-for-manycam-lifetime-subscriptions/ "ManyCam Blog: Update for ManyCam Lifetime Subscriptions"] manycam.com via The Interner Archive</ref>


After acquiring ManyCam in June 2022, Paltalk released an update out for customers to upgrade to ManyCam 8.0.0, a version of the software with which the lifetime licenses did not work. <ref name="ManyCam Forum: Activation many cam 8 and many cam lite - 2022-07-05"> [https://web.archive.org/web/20220705084722/https://forum.manycam.com/t/activation-many-cam-8-and-many-cam-lite/6448 "ManyCam Forum: Activation many cam 8 and many cam lite"] manycam.com via The Internet Archive on July 5th, 2022</ref>
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"ManyCam is now under new ownership. The new owner does not offer Lifetime subscriptions. Some Lifetime customers have been concerned about their ability to use their subscription in the future. The intent was never to interfere with that ability of current Lifetime customers.


ManyCam 7 was configured by default to notify users of any new versions available for upgrades under the "lifetime" license.
[[File:ManyCam 7 Lifetime Studio notifies of updates by default.png|alt=A screenshot of ManyCam 7 with Lifetime Studio with default settings. The "Notify me about new ManyCam versions" setting is enabled by default.|thumb|A screenshot of ManyCam 7 Lifetime Studio with default settings.  The "Notify me about new ManyCam versions" setting is enabled by default.]]
Many users followed the usual upgrade path to ManyCam 8, and were unable to activate their "lifetime" license as usual.  One user posted: <ref name="ManyCam Forum: Activation many cam 8 and many cam lite - 2022-07-05" /><blockquote>
[USERNAME REDACTED] June 15, 2022, 3:25am


 I have many cam premium, I downloaded many cam 8.0.0 it’s not allowing me to activate. Also I downloaded many cam lite this is not also activating. In both instance, I login with my email and password. I will be so glad to have this sorted as soon as possible.</blockquote>
Visicom Media stands by the Lifetime customers and will continue to support them by arranging with the new owner for a total of two years of free subscription. This offer can be claimed in the ManyCam account on the webpage. At the user’s request, and upon the expiration of the two-year free subscription, Visicom Media will offer an upgrade to any current Lifetime customers who continue to need such access."
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==== Retroactive change to ManyCam FAQ Page ====


Presumably this was not properly communicated with many customers, as many expressed their surprise when their lifetime licenses stopped working like they used to.  One customer related their experience on the ManyCam Forums in a thread titled '''"Don't Upgrade to ManyCam 8!"''' <ref name="ManyCam Forums: Don't Upgrade to ManyCam 8! - 2022-07-05">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220705095408/https://forum.manycam.com/t/dont-upgrade-to-manycam-8/6440 "ManyCam Forums: Don't Upgrade to ManyCam 8!"] forum.manycam.com via The Internet Archive on July 5th, 2022</ref>
After the release of the ManyCam 8.0.0 update, around June 18, 2022, Paltalk modified the ManyCam Knowledge Base webpage to change the stated terms regarding the ManyCam Lifetime subscription plans (emphasis added on): <ref name="ManyCam Knowledge Base (Modified by Paltalk): Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220618021632/https://help.manycam.com/knowledge-base/manycam-devices-video-sources/ " Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?"] manycam.com via The Internet Archive ''After being aquired by Patatalk'' </ref>


{{Quote box|quote=June 14, 2022, 4:48pm #1
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'''ManyCam Lifetime subscription plans'''


I was testing ManyCam 8 beta and today I have reallized [sic] that all my subscriptions DOESN’T [sic] WORK WITH ManyCam 8 (and I have 3, standard, studio and premium lifetime all of them). And what is most, there aren’t [sic] a lifetime subscription for ManyCam 8.
Any paid ''''ManyCam 7'''' Lifetime subscription allows you to upgrade the ''''ManyCam 7'''' software for free whenever a newer version of ''''ManyCam 7'''' is released, i.e. with ''''ManyCam 7 Lifetime'''', you will get lifetime access to all future versions and updates of the ''''ManyCam 7'''' application for free, which includes access to the paid ''''ManyCam 7'''' features available in your subscription plan (Standard, Studio, Premium, Enterprise, Education). ''''ManyCam 7 Lifetime'''' subscription plans are a one-time payment, no renewal or other fees included.
 
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So, why do you offer me a “lifetime” subscription if it doesn’t work with new versions.
 
Sorry but it seems unacceptable. Very disappointed.
-[NAME REDACTED]
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On July 1st 2022, a "Guest Writer" who was posting under the guise of Visicom Media, the previous owner, made a blog post on the official ManyCam.com website: <ref name="ManyCam Blog: Update for ManyCam Lifetime Subscriptions">[https://web.archive.org/web/20230531011812/https://manycam.com/blog/update-for-manycam-lifetime-subscriptions/ "ManyCam Blog: Update for ManyCam Lifetime Subscriptions"] manycam.com via The Interner Archive</ref>


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The new language simply replaced ''"ManyCam"'' with ''"ManyCam 7"'' and their statement effectively made '''no promises of any upgrades''' because ManyCam 8 had already been released, and no new versions of ManyCam 7 were to be worked on by Paltalk.
ManyCam is now under new ownership. The new owner does not offer Lifetime subscriptions. Some Lifetime customers have been concerned about their ability to use their subscription in the future. The intent was never to interfere with that ability of current Lifetime customers.
 
Visicom Media stands by the Lifetime customers and will continue to support them by arranging with the new owner for a total of two years of free subscription. This offer can be claimed in the ManyCam account on the webpage. At the user’s request, and upon the expiration of the two-year free subscription, Visicom Media will offer an upgrade to any current Lifetime customers who continue to need such access.
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As a result of Paltalk's actions, many users who relied on this video software throughout the COVID-19 pandemic were caught in a situation where the software was inoperable, despite having paid for a "Lifetime" license.
 
 
==== Unhappy Customers ====


== Customer Reaction ==
After Paltalk's acquisition of ManyCam, many customers posted their experiences and complaints on both personal web blogs and the official ManyCam Forums.
After Paltalk's acquisition of ManyCam, many customers posted their experiences and complaints on both personal web blogs and the official ManyCam Forums.


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Indeed, as "AmazingCTO" and this user observed, most human beings would concur that a "lifetime" is a span of time much greater than one year.  As such, these customers perceived Paltalk to be disingenuous by not honoring the "lifetime" license agreement.
Indeed, as "AmazingCTO" and this user observed, most human beings would concur that a "lifetime" is a span of time much greater than one year.  As such, these customers perceived Paltalk to be disingenuous by not honoring the "lifetime" license agreement.


==== ManyCam FAQ Page Changed ====
On around June 18, 2022, Paltalk modified the ManyCam Knowledge Base webpage to change the stated terms regarding the ManyCam Lifetime subscription plans (emphasis added on): <ref name="ManyCam Knowledge Base (Modified by Paltalk): Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?">[https://web.archive.org/web/20220618021632/https://help.manycam.com/knowledge-base/manycam-devices-video-sources/ " Will I get all future versions and updates of ManyCam for free?"] manycam.com via The Internet Archive ''After being aquired by Patatalk'' </ref>
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'''ManyCam Lifetime subscription plans'''
Any paid ''''ManyCam 7'''' Lifetime subscription allows you to upgrade the ''''ManyCam 7'''' software for free whenever a newer version of ''''ManyCam 7'''' is released, i.e. with ''''ManyCam 7 Lifetime'''', you will get lifetime access to all future versions and updates of the ''''ManyCam 7'''' application for free, which includes access to the paid ''''ManyCam 7'''' features available in your subscription plan (Standard, Studio, Premium, Enterprise, Education). ''''ManyCam 7 Lifetime'''' subscription plans are a one-time payment, no renewal or other fees included.
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Of course, this was a very obvious change to previous customers who had enjoyed free upgrades for any and all versions prior to ManyCam 7.  Needless to say, those customers were still unhappy.  The new language simply replaced ''"ManyCam"'' with ''"ManyCam 7"''.  Additionally, their statement effectively made '''no promises of any upgrades''' because ManyCam 8 had already been released, and no new versions of ManyCam 7 were to be worked on by Paltalk.


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