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I think [[:Category:Wiki root]] and other major categories should be fully protected as confirmed/autoconfirmed users can still move it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 08:02, 2 September 2025 (UTC) | I think [[:Category:Wiki root]] and other major categories should be fully protected as confirmed/autoconfirmed users can still move it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|AnotherConsumerRightsPerson]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 08:02, 2 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
== Appeal Artificial intelligence deletion == | |||
Somebody proposed deletion of the article for the reason: "Does not pertain directly to consumer rights or violations." | |||
Further, in the discussion it was noted that the article is wordy. | |||
I agree that the article needs significant revision. It has more detail than needed on some areas (e.g. web scraping), and totally misses other important areas. | |||
I think it might be easier to improve the existing article, rather than having to start one from scratch. | |||
I see AI more as a theme/background article. AI is so pervasive now, and affects people in so many ways, that I think it makes sense to have at least one article on it. | |||
Things that I think such an article should cover include: | |||
Data centers - environmental impacts, community impacts, energy demand and subsidy by electricity and water rate payers, and how many of these agreements are made in secret, even in nominally democratic/open governmental systems. In the US data centers are often located in marginalized communities, where people are not as organized to protect their community . (This is not exclusively an AI thing might be worth a separate article about data centers in general, covering crypto mining operations, etc.) | |||
Control of information - Use of LLM in place of search is decimating independent information sources (taking away advertising revenue, taking away views). | |||
Inaccuracy and inappropriate use of LLM. "Hallucinations" People not understanding what an LLM is and assuming they are more capable than they are. LLM make a poor substitute for human written product reviews. (Inaccurate, praises whatever the user wants - even products that don't exist.) | |||
Intellectual property - piracy in training data (using stolen data), use of output. | |||
Privacy and security - data poisoning, ease of subverting guardrails, gathering data for training, revealing prompts, law enforcement review of chatbot prompts and outputs, etc. | |||
Concerns about possible effects on users - AI psychosis, etc. | |||
Labor concerns - conditions of labelers/piece workers. | |||
Liability - LLM are often inaccurate, what happens when the AI harms people (libel, suicide, etc.) | |||
In short, I think there is a lot about LLMs and AI that is important for consumers. I hope the above gives some sense of why. However, I only just started here, and will be careful to read the policies and examples in more detail before editing articles. | |||
I have sources for a bunch of this, will be adding them to the article talk page as time permits. Thank you. [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:33, 4 September 2025 (UTC) |