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== Section formerly known as Dark patterns ==

I cannot deny, the "dark patterns" section definitely feels a bit inflammatory, though I'm curious to know if other seconds are a bit inflammatory [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 15:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

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:I reached out to Ixus directly by e-mail. Hoping to get some more information, as IMO the issue isn't tone but a lack of details. [[User:Skatche|Skatche]] ([[User talk:Skatche|talk]]) 00:19, 27 January 2025 (EST)

::As far as I could tell, the section titled "Dark patterns" was really about Microsoft account requirement in Windows. I was starting to add section on MS Account, then realized that was what this section was about, so renamed it.

::I think the section should stay, since MS Account requirement is important.

::* Increasing force applied to require MS accounts.

::* MS accounts and TPM credentials and encryption are all tied together and not well explained how to use them safely (backing up credentials). The default experience seems to be if you lose the MS account (it gets hacked, or MS disables it), or if your hardware fails (so you can't log in with this machine) you lose your data. (I don't know how this affects things like onedrive or subscriptions, if you lose those as well when TPM goes blooey without backup.) [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:36, 11 October 2025 (UTC)

==Dark patterns section==

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+== Section formerly known as Dark patterns ==
 I cannot deny, the "dark patterns" section definitely feels a bit inflammatory, though I'm curious to know if other seconds are a bit inflammatory [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 15:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
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 :I reached out to Ixus directly by e-mail. Hoping to get some more information, as IMO the issue isn't tone but a lack of details. [[User:Skatche|Skatche]] ([[User talk:Skatche|talk]]) 00:19, 27 January 2025 (EST)
+::As far as I could tell, the section titled "Dark patterns" was really about Microsoft account requirement in Windows.  I was starting to add section on MS Account, then realized that was what this section was about, so renamed it.
+::I think the section should stay, since MS Account requirement is important.
+::* Increasing force applied to require MS accounts.
+::* MS accounts and TPM credentials and encryption are all tied together and not well explained how to use them safely (backing up credentials).  The default experience seems to be if you lose the MS account (it gets hacked, or MS disables it), or if your hardware fails (so you can't log in with this machine) you lose your data.  (I don't know how this affects things like onedrive or subscriptions, if you lose those as well when TPM goes blooey without backup.)  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 18:36, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
 ==Dark patterns section==