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:::External hardware can be a little costly for people though, it's generally why I use Homebrewed diagnostic software for my jailbroken hardware. Additionally, the diagnostic software that is being distributed by Apple is likely only going to work on specific versions of iPhone, so someone trying to fix an iPhone 6 that has a bunch of delisted games on it could be SOL [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 02:13, 13 September 2025 (UTC) | :::External hardware can be a little costly for people though, it's generally why I use Homebrewed diagnostic software for my jailbroken hardware. Additionally, the diagnostic software that is being distributed by Apple is likely only going to work on specific versions of iPhone, so someone trying to fix an iPhone 6 that has a bunch of delisted games on it could be SOL [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 02:13, 13 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
::::True, though regarding the iPhone 6, (while being a good phone besides bendgate) it hasn’t been supported through software updates for 6 years. Granted with my experience delisted apps can be redownloaded through the App Store account page, though if your device is already jail broken, you can just sideload the IPAs (if the device isn’t jailbroken, sideloadly can work also). I guess it would depend on the region if they still support 3G and 2G cell signals, but not many people in North America use iPhones older than the 11, with that number apparently increasing [https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/01/nearly-70-of-users-plan-to-upgrade-to-iphone-17/ with the 17]. The diagnostic feature is for [https://tidbits.com/2023/12/13/apple-self-service-repair-adds-remote-diagnostics-and-supports-new-devices/ iPhones 12 and up], so maybe we can make a case for the 11 lineup as it’s still supported in iOS 26, but I would like to hear what other users think about this topic as well. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 13:58, 13 September 2025 (UTC) | ::::True, though regarding the iPhone 6, (while being a good phone besides bendgate) it hasn’t been supported through software updates for 6 years. Granted with my experience delisted apps can be redownloaded through the App Store account page, though if your device is already jail broken, you can just sideload the IPAs (if the device isn’t jailbroken, sideloadly can work also). I guess it would depend on the region if they still support 3G and 2G cell signals, but not many people in North America use iPhones older than the 11, with that number apparently increasing [https://www.macrumors.com/2025/09/01/nearly-70-of-users-plan-to-upgrade-to-iphone-17/ with the 17]. The diagnostic feature is for [https://tidbits.com/2023/12/13/apple-self-service-repair-adds-remote-diagnostics-and-supports-new-devices/ iPhones 12 and up], so maybe we can make a case for the 11 lineup as it’s still supported in iOS 26, but I would like to hear what other users think about this topic as well. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 13:58, 13 September 2025 (UTC) | ||
:::::You can only redownload apps, not download new ones, and only on devices where Apple still hasn't borked the App Store entirely yet. Moreover, you need to figure out how to enter the multifactor codes on Apple IDs on devices that don't know how to handle them. | |||
:::::Sideloading IPAs only works if you have archived IPAs licensed to your account, which is not within what a normal user can do. | |||
:::::I don't think whatever possibilities are opened by Jailbreaking can be considered relevant for the purposes of the discussion since it's not something Apple officially allows, nor is it something that can be done on all devices. | |||
:::::I can still launch any software I want on my dad's Atari ST. MS Office 97 with Clippy still installs on a fresh copy of Windows 95. That should be our standard. | |||
:::::I'll try to get a draft for the relevant sections into the page, then you guys can see what you think and edit or discard as you see fit. [[User:MrTuttle|MrTuttle]] ([[User talk:MrTuttle|talk]]) 19:05, 15 September 2025 (UTC) | |||