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::::Thank you, but this still leaves a confusing situation, where the (now orphaned) [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Code of conduct]] looks like an official policy, but it says different things than [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Rules]].
::::Thank you, but this still leaves a confusing situation, where the (now orphaned) [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Code of conduct]] looks like an official policy, but it says different things than [[Consumer Rights Wiki:Rules]].
::::Please either:
::::Please either:
::::# put a disclaimer box on it saying readers should ignore it (it is a draft).
::::#put a disclaimer box on it saying readers should ignore it (it is a draft).
::::# Move it to a namespace that makes it obvious that it isn't official (e.g. part of somebodies user page).
::::#Move it to a namespace that makes it obvious that it isn't official (e.g. part of somebodies user page).
::::# If it isn't needed anymore, delete it (or blank the contents if want to keep the history).  
::::#If it isn't needed anymore, delete it (or blank the contents if want to keep the history).
::::# Protect it so only moderators can see it.
::::#Protect it so only moderators can see it.
::::# Do something else to make it clear to the casual reader what its status is, and where to find the official version.
::::#Do something else to make it clear to the casual reader what its status is, and where to find the official version.
::::Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 08:00, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 08:00, 6 November 2025 (UTC)


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just curious lol [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 20:20, 4 November 2025 (UTC)
just curious lol [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 20:20, 4 November 2025 (UTC)


== Appeal deletion - Amazon fraudulent product page ==
==Appeal deletion - Amazon fraudulent product page==


The article [[Amazon allows fraudulent product page after manual review]] has a deletion request that says "old aigen article that has not seen any use."
The article [[Amazon allows fraudulent product page after manual review]] has a deletion request that says "old aigen article that has not seen any use."


The article
The article
# Has several paragraphs of meaningful content (not a stub).
#Has several paragraphs of meaningful content (not a stub).
# Has several references
#Has several references
# Is about an issue that I have heard of and seems noteworthy (Fraud against consumers by one of the largest retailers in the US).
#Is about an issue that I have heard of and seems noteworthy (Fraud against consumers by one of the largest retailers in the US).


What exactly are the criteria that this article violates that it should be deleted?   
What exactly are the criteria that this article violates that it should be deleted?   
* The "seen any use" seems to indicate that there is some criterion on how much people read an article, which this one hasn't met.  What is the use benchmark articles have to pass?  How can we see how much use an article gets?
*The "seen any use" seems to indicate that there is some criterion on how much people read an article, which this one hasn't met.  What is the use benchmark articles have to pass?  How can we see how much use an article gets?
* AI generated - how is this determined?  I have skimmed the article, it doesn't seem overly painful to read.  (It isn't Kippling or Hemmingway, but it isn't bureaucrateese either.)
*AI generated - how is this determined?  I have skimmed the article, it doesn't seem overly painful to read.  (It isn't Kippling or Hemmingway, but it isn't bureaucrateese either.)


I am appealing the deletion of this article, since it meets all the inclusion criteria of which I am aware.
I am appealing the deletion of this article, since it meets all the inclusion criteria of which I am aware.
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Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 08:40, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 08:40, 6 November 2025 (UTC)


== What does the AI/LLM template mean? ==
==What does the AI/LLM template mean?==


(Note, this question was prompted by [[ Amazon allows fraudulent product page after manual review]] and other articles.)
(Note, this question was prompted by [[ Amazon allows fraudulent product page after manual review]] and other articles.)
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It might help if the adder of the AI/LLM template were required to add specifics about what they find problematic.  (Are there inaccuracies, is it use of particular words, is it cliched or verbose, ...)  Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 08:48, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
It might help if the adder of the AI/LLM template were required to add specifics about what they find problematic.  (Are there inaccuracies, is it use of particular words, is it cliched or verbose, ...)  Thanks.  [[User:Drakeula|Drakeula]] ([[User talk:Drakeula|talk]]) 08:48, 6 November 2025 (UTC)
:the SloppyAI tag is basically just if its fully/mostly AI generated, not based on tools and just at the adder's discretion. It's my least favorite template though, and I should probably rework the wording and add an issue part like the one in the Incomplete notice. I'll keep your ideas in mind if/when I do it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 14:29, 6 November 2025 (UTC)