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::::it's not essential that themes be broad - the main reason to use them is when 'this is a thing that is a general issue, but is not linked to a single product or company', I'd say? and the effects of JS on the web ecosystem are definitely not classifiable as an incident that can be pinned on a single company, and can't even really be blamed on the language itself, it's the whole ecosystem that exists around it. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 12:14, 18 March 2026 (UTC)
::::it's not essential that themes be broad - the main reason to use them is when 'this is a thing that is a general issue, but is not linked to a single product or company', I'd say? and the effects of JS on the web ecosystem are definitely not classifiable as an incident that can be pinned on a single company, and can't even really be blamed on the language itself, it's the whole ecosystem that exists around it. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 12:14, 18 March 2026 (UTC)


== Resources for devs and users ==
==Resources for devs and users==


Somme people on the discord (maybe also Zulip?) mentioned that the article should help users minimize the downsides of JS on pages they don't control. I agree, we should add info about that. However, we should also help web-developers implement sites without relying much on JS.
Somme people on the discord (maybe also Zulip?) mentioned that the article should help users minimize the downsides of JS on pages they don't control. I agree, we should add info about that. However, we should also help web-developers implement sites without relying much on JS.
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I'm saying this because of [https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=JavaScript&diff=50129&oldid=47947 these edits] by @[[User:Vandetta|Vandetta]], which removed these URLs:
I'm saying this because of [https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=JavaScript&diff=50129&oldid=47947 these edits] by @[[User:Vandetta|Vandetta]], which removed these URLs:


* [https://www.htmhell.dev/adventcalendar/2023/2/ "You don't need JavaScript for that"]
*[https://www.htmhell.dev/adventcalendar/2023/2/ "You don't need JavaScript for that"]
* [https://jakearchibald.com/2025/give-footnotes-the-boot/#footnotes-on-the-web "Give footnotes the boot § Footnotes on the web"]
*[https://jakearchibald.com/2025/give-footnotes-the-boot/#footnotes-on-the-web "Give footnotes the boot § Footnotes on the web"]


IMO, both are good demos/examples of what can be done with modern HTML+CSS! If they are removed, please replace them by something better (such as MDN links, I guess?) [[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 03:23, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
IMO, both are good demos/examples of what can be done with modern HTML+CSS! If they are removed, please replace them by something better (such as MDN links, I guess?) [[User:Rudxain|Rudxain]] ([[User talk:Rudxain|talk]]) 03:23, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
:I had removed them because the way they had been added to the page did not flow with the theme article and what it was trying to convey
:If you believe these resources are important re inplment them in a way that actually befits the articles standing [[User:Vandetta|Vandetta]] ([[User talk:Vandetta|talk]]) 20:27, 17 April 2026 (UTC)