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Consumer friendly alternatives: Sorted items alphabetically. Also added a newer Discord alternative that prides itself on being privacy-first and having no ads.
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Additionally, server owners have limited recourse if their servers are banned, and users are required to use Discord's payment processing for all monetary transactions.<!-- "Limited recourse" is quite vague. It would be helpful to outline what recourse is possible and why this is insufficient.  -->
Additionally, server owners have limited recourse if their servers are banned, and users are required to use Discord's payment processing for all monetary transactions.<!-- "Limited recourse" is quite vague. It would be helpful to outline what recourse is possible and why this is insufficient.  -->


=== Forced arbitration ===
===Forced arbitration===
Since release<ref>{{Cite web |date=12 Sep 2015 |title=Discord - Terms of Service |url=https://discordapp.com |url-status=unfit |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170521173532/https://discordapp.com/terms#:~:text=ARBITRATION |archive-date=21 May 2017 |access-date= |website=Discord}}</ref>, Discord's [[Terms of Service|terms of service]] have mandated [[Forced arbitration|binding arbitration]] with {{Wplink|class action}} waiver for U.S. users. Users can opt out by sending an 'opt-out notice' to [email protected] within 90 days of registering their first account.'''<ref name="terms-of-service3" />'''
Since release<ref>{{Cite web |date=12 Sep 2015 |title=Discord - Terms of Service |url=https://discordapp.com |url-status=unfit |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170521173532/https://discordapp.com/terms#:~:text=ARBITRATION |archive-date=21 May 2017 |access-date= |website=Discord}}</ref>, Discord's [[Terms of Service|terms of service]] have mandated [[Forced arbitration|binding arbitration]] with {{Wplink|class action}} waiver for U.S. users. Users can opt out by sending an 'opt-out notice' to [email protected] within 90 days of registering their first account.'''<ref name="terms-of-service3" />'''


=== Transparency ===
===Transparency===
Discord's terms of service are lengthy and complex. In October 2025, the base terms are 29 pages long, with a reading level of 14th grade (equivalent to two years of tertiary education) and an estimated reading time of 42 minutes.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Calculated using readabilitychecker.com based on current discord TOS. discord.com/terms |url=https://readabilitychecker.com/url |access-date=9 Oct 2025 |url-status=live |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20260210185029/https://readabilitychecker.com/url |archive-date=10 Feb 2026}}</ref>  The 2021 version of Discord's ToS would take an estimated 275+ hours to read.<ref>{{Cite web |title=EULA of despair |url=https://www.pilotlab.org/eulas-of-despair |access-date=9 Oct 2025 |website=Penn State University Pilot Lab |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260216034102/https://www.pilotlab.org/eulas-of-despair |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>
Discord's terms of service are lengthy and complex. In October 2025, the base terms are 29 pages long, with a reading level of 14th grade (equivalent to two years of tertiary education) and an estimated reading time of 42 minutes.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Calculated using readabilitychecker.com based on current discord TOS. discord.com/terms |url=https://readabilitychecker.com/url |access-date=9 Oct 2025 |url-status=live |archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20260210185029/https://readabilitychecker.com/url |archive-date=10 Feb 2026}}</ref>  The 2021 version of Discord's ToS would take an estimated 275+ hours to read.<ref>{{Cite web |title=EULA of despair |url=https://www.pilotlab.org/eulas-of-despair |access-date=9 Oct 2025 |website=Penn State University Pilot Lab |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20260216034102/https://www.pilotlab.org/eulas-of-despair |archive-date=16 Feb 2026}}</ref>


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*[https://fluxer.app/ Fluxer] [https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer Fluxer's GitHub]
*[https://fluxer.app/ Fluxer] [https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer Fluxer's GitHub]
*[https://zulip.com/ Zulip][https://github.com/zulip/zulip/ Zulip's GitHub]
*[https://osmium.chat/ Osmium.chat]  


*[https://stoat.chat/ Stoat] [https://github.com/stoatchat Stoat's GitHub]
*[https://stoat.chat/ Stoat] [https://github.com/stoatchat Stoat's GitHub]
*[https://zulip.com/ Zulip][https://github.com/zulip/zulip/ Zulip's GitHub]


[[File:Discord Vague Infringement example.png|thumb|An example of how Discord handles its moderation from a user's perspective.]]
[[File:Discord Vague Infringement example.png|thumb|An example of how Discord handles its moderation from a user's perspective.]]