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==Background== | ==Background== | ||
Over the years Signal has curated a reputation that they do not collect or keep data on their users. | Over the years Signal has curated a reputation that they do not collect or keep data on their users. | ||
Signal has publicly disclosed that they have received legal requests for subscriber's names, telephone numbers, histories, and contacts and Signal has said that they were unable to supply that information because it was never collected by Signal in the first place. These incidents have been reported in the media<ref>{{Cite web |title=FBI demands Signal user data, but there’s not much to hand over |url=https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/fbi-demands-signal-user-data-but-theres-not-much-to-hand-over/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240401002649/https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/fbi-demands-signal-user-data-but-theres-not-much-to-hand-over/ |archive-date=04/01/24}}</ref> | Signal has publicly disclosed that they have received legal requests for subscriber's names, telephone numbers, histories, and contacts and Signal has said that they were unable to supply that information because it was never collected by Signal in the first place. These incidents have been reported in the media.<ref>{{Cite web |title=FBI demands Signal user data, but there’s not much to hand over |url=https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/fbi-demands-signal-user-data-but-theres-not-much-to-hand-over/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240401002649/https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/10/fbi-demands-signal-user-data-but-theres-not-much-to-hand-over/ |archive-date=04/01/24}}</ref> | ||
Signal's website states<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |title=Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Eastern District of Virginia |url=https://signal.org/bigbrother/eastern-virginia-grand-jury/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250302042109/https://signal.org/bigbrother/eastern-virginia-grand-jury/ |archive-date=03/02/25}}</ref> | Signal's website states:<ref name=":0">{{Cite web |title=Grand jury subpoena for Signal user data, Eastern District of Virginia |url=https://signal.org/bigbrother/eastern-virginia-grand-jury/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20250302042109/https://signal.org/bigbrother/eastern-virginia-grand-jury/ |archive-date=03/02/25}}</ref> | ||
''"We’ve designed the Signal service to minimize the data we retain about Signal users, so the only information we can produce in response to a request like this is the date and time a user registered with Signal and the last date of a user’s connectivity to the Signal service.'' | ''"We’ve designed the Signal service to minimize the data we retain about Signal users, so the only information we can produce in response to a request like this is the date and time a user registered with Signal and the last date of a user’s connectivity to the Signal service.'' | ||
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There is no indication on Signal's older pages, which claim they don't collect this information, that the data collection policy discussed on those pages is now outdated either. | There is no indication on Signal's older pages, which claim they don't collect this information, that the data collection policy discussed on those pages is now outdated either. | ||
Requests have been made for Signal to update their policy following the change in data collection<ref>{{Cite web |title=Can Signal please update its Privacy Policy |url=https://community.signalusers.org/t/can-signal-please-update-its-privacy-policy/15323 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230519120053/https://community.signalusers.org/t/can-signal-please-update-its-privacy-policy/15323 |archive-date=05/19/23}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Signal’s Terms of Use and Privacy Policy are not very user friendly |url=https://community.signalusers.org/t/signals-terms-of-use-and-privacy-policy-are-not-very-user-friendly/11047}}</ref> | Requests have been made for Signal to update their policy following the change in data collection.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Can Signal please update its Privacy Policy |url=https://community.signalusers.org/t/can-signal-please-update-its-privacy-policy/15323 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230519120053/https://community.signalusers.org/t/can-signal-please-update-its-privacy-policy/15323 |archive-date=05/19/23}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=Signal’s Terms of Use and Privacy Policy are not very user friendly |url=https://community.signalusers.org/t/signals-terms-of-use-and-privacy-policy-are-not-very-user-friendly/11047}}</ref> | ||
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While some social media posts and articles suggested that opting out of setting a pin would prevent a user's data from being uploaded to the cloud, this is not the case. There is currently no way for a Signal user to prevent their data from being uploaded and stored in the cloud.<ref>{{Cite web |title=PSA: Disabling PINs will now upload nothing to the server |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/htmzrr/psa_disabling_pins_will_now_upload_nothing_to_the/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230616082821/https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/htmzrr/psa_disabling_pins_will_now_upload_nothing_to_the/ |archive-date=06/16/23}}</ref> | While some social media posts and articles suggested that opting out of setting a pin would prevent a user's data from being uploaded to the cloud, this is not the case. There is currently no way for a Signal user to prevent their data from being uploaded and stored in the cloud.<ref>{{Cite web |title=PSA: Disabling PINs will now upload nothing to the server |url=https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/htmzrr/psa_disabling_pins_will_now_upload_nothing_to_the/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230616082821/https://old.reddit.com/r/signal/comments/htmzrr/psa_disabling_pins_will_now_upload_nothing_to_the/ |archive-date=06/16/23}}</ref> | ||