Consumer Rights Wiki talk:Moderator guidelines: Difference between revisions

I always try to find already written articles or evidence that is repeatable, but sometimes this is not possible at least not with sources that are aligned to the Guidlines as written.

I have a discussion open in the Audible section, on of the problems there is rather subjective and more a dark pattern then anything else. It also is repeatable or proveble, but for example not in the US or UK because of Geo-blocking. As I use a VPN, I can check this but what do we do if you have arguments that are defenetly relevant for consumer rights, that border these "new" dark paterns that appear nowadays?

There are alot of these consumer rights topics nowadays that only get detected by patern recognition, do we leave them out? Do we ignore them? At some point someone will make verifiable and proven datapoints out of them, but untill then what do we do? Or rather how to fomulate this without beeing subjectiv or vague?

As an example every gamer knew (yes not factually knew) that for example Activision has a consumer unfriendly even predetory Matchmaking system, it was done for engagement, selling skins, artifically increasing playtime and manipulating behaviour paterns. Some of this for monetary gain some of it for player retention and so on. This only came out because they where partly forced to open up some of their internal documentations via the Gambling accusations from the EU, US and so on. It still is only anecdotal evidence, therefore inhearently not verifiable, at least I did not check up on it again. This started 2012 and goes on to this day. Pls dont make me search every claim I made right now, I only used this example because its a good way to showcase how long "subjective patern recognition" can be right but ignored because of missing evidence. Dont nail me on this but I thing it came out 2019.

As of how I understand the Guidelines such problems for consumer rights would have to be deleted or are not allowed, right? I just ask because consumer rights for lets say "new media" is very easyly miscategorized as subjective. I think alot of these behavoiurs will not be covered by dark paterns in the future. Same goes for goverment recognition in form of law or customer protection. I pretty much would have to reference several different country cosumer protection laws or breaks to even start a topic like the example (I dont intent to as said only an example). Would the topic be deleted beforehand, if I would take to long for this? I know there are a lot of questions but the guidelines feel a littlebit pressuring if that would be the case. Thanks for input on this. [[User:CasaRomeo|CasaRomeo]] ([[User talk:CasaRomeo|talk]]) 02:04, 7 April 2026 (UTC)