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::::::Yes, I definitely think it's worth that. I have some thoughts, and will see what I can do. Thank you! | ::::::Yes, I definitely think it's worth that. I have some thoughts, and will see what I can do. Thank you! | ||
::::::I think the thing that distresses me the most about all of this is how hard it is to understand it. At this point, I feel like all those marks are like the fronts of a Potemkin village. But I'm probably just being cynical (again). [[User:Jackalgirl|Jackalgirl]] ([[User talk:Jackalgirl|talk]]) 15:53, 9 June 2026 (UTC) | ::::::I think the thing that distresses me the most about all of this is how hard it is to understand it. At this point, I feel like all those marks are like the fronts of a Potemkin village. But I'm probably just being cynical (again). [[User:Jackalgirl|Jackalgirl]] ([[User talk:Jackalgirl|talk]]) 15:53, 9 June 2026 (UTC) | ||
::::::Also, with respect to the "what do these words mean", Will says it specifically at 6:06 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5qQYGLi4B8&list=PL7bvIB2TPsCgD4TxUxf3szWyxRz_HwUd1&index=7 - "Also, on this sticker it says, 'conforms', 'certified', and 'conforms'; that does not mean 'UL Listed', that means it's conforming to a standard, probably with a third-party lab." (Which would be Intertek) [[User:Jackalgirl|Jackalgirl]] ([[User talk:Jackalgirl|talk]]) 16:28, 9 June 2026 (UTC) | |||
::As an example: on eTrailer, I found some other RV batteries: | ::As an example: on eTrailer, I found some other RV batteries: | ||
::o Dometic's "Go Power" battery, quick-start guide here: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/catsy.549/GP-LiFePO4-100+Quick+Guide.pdf - this battery doesn't show any UL marks; it just claims that it "conforms to UL 2054", which is the standard for "Household and Commercial Batteries" (https://www.shopulstandards.com/ProductDetail.aspx?productId=UL2054_3_S_20211117). I can't, of course, tell what this standard actually details from the source, but found this from a company in Germany: https://www.vri-gmbh.de/en/vri-knowledge-base/standards-and-regulations/ul-2054: "UL 2054 is a safety standard for portable primary (non-rechargeable) and secondary (rechargeable) batteries used as power sources in products. The standard covers both single cells and multi-cell configurations (battery packs) and defines construction requirements, test procedures and marking requirements. Unlike UL 1642, which focuses on lithium cells at the cell level, UL 2054 addresses the battery and battery pack level for all chemistries. For lithium cells used in battery packs, UL 2054 references the requirements of UL 1642 [JG: which is the safety standard for lithium batteries, both rechargeable and non-]." | ::o Dometic's "Go Power" battery, quick-start guide here: https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/catsy.549/GP-LiFePO4-100+Quick+Guide.pdf - this battery doesn't show any UL marks; it just claims that it "conforms to UL 2054", which is the standard for "Household and Commercial Batteries" (https://www.shopulstandards.com/ProductDetail.aspx?productId=UL2054_3_S_20211117). I can't, of course, tell what this standard actually details from the source, but found this from a company in Germany: https://www.vri-gmbh.de/en/vri-knowledge-base/standards-and-regulations/ul-2054: "UL 2054 is a safety standard for portable primary (non-rechargeable) and secondary (rechargeable) batteries used as power sources in products. The standard covers both single cells and multi-cell configurations (battery packs) and defines construction requirements, test procedures and marking requirements. Unlike UL 1642, which focuses on lithium cells at the cell level, UL 2054 addresses the battery and battery pack level for all chemistries. For lithium cells used in battery packs, UL 2054 references the requirements of UL 1642 [JG: which is the safety standard for lithium batteries, both rechargeable and non-]." | ||