Talk:Microsoft

I cannot deny, the "dark patterns" section definitely feels a bit inflammatory, though I'm curious to know if other seconds are a bit inflammatory JamesTDG (talk) 15:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Agree, I added the ToneWarning because the whole page seemed 'off' -Keith

Any ideas on how to tone the rest of the page down? I know we'd need to get the attention of the "dark patterns" author to know the intent before we clean that section up. JamesTDG (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

As an aside - the dark pattern is no longer as much a problem as latest ISO images of the installation media don't even allow for creating a local account, even without internet access, and will happily inform you that you need to connect to the internet to create or link your MicroSoft account.

It's now necessary to open a powershell window and execute a command to skip the Out-Of-Box-Experience, sequence-breaking the onboarding process and restart the installer in order to create a local account without having to log into a microsoft account first.

Initially, you could install windows and a local account was a freely selectable choice. After 22, you had to start the installer with no internet availability and it would then offer you the choice of a local account, albeit hidden behind a couple of clicks. Now, it's not even an option without some hackery.

I think I have some old ISO images around that I could try, to better demonstrate the dark pattern that was present, though. SwervingLemon (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

I reached out to Ixus directly by e-mail. Hoping to get some more information, as IMO the issue isn't tone but a lack of details. Skatche (talk) 00:19, 27 January 2025 (EST)

Dark patterns section

Is it even worth keeping tbh, I was looking for sources and its a barely talked about topic, could just be worth scrapping altogether even after I fixed some of the language.

Perhaps remove most of the text from this page, and spin it out as a stub incident page?