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:There is some conversation on a thred on the on-topic chanell on the discord server as well.

:[[Consumer_Action_Taskforce:Talk_page_guidelines| The talk page guidelines might help with the captcha issues in the meantime]] [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 21:16, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

~~::Test [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 08:31, 4 March 2025 (UTC)~~

::@[[User:Kostas|Kostas]], Interesting info. I have to manually edit the discussion source in order to reply. Perhaps that also breaks notifications/pings. Cargo might be helpful with metadata read/write, but I have never used it.

::*So far, with simple embedded JSON, my extension can already look up if a website URL has been added to a wiki lookup table/database, and if is, it pulls embedded JSON from the wiki's product/organization articles. I just need to make GUI and then the basic concept is functional.

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::*But also, in my opinion, the nice thing about having the metadata embedded in the article source is that anyone may edit and fix metadata (once a proper format is established of course). So when someone creates a new article, someone can easily copy/paste a metadata template, edit it, and have the changes update live to the extension.

::*Maybe even some automation to automatically generate extension metadata (likely only possible with a MediaWiki extension)

::*Does Cargo achieve those points? I genuinely don't know, but just some things to consider. [[User:Kyliotic|Kyliotic]] ([[User talk:Kyliotic|talk]]) 01:04, 4 March 2025 (~~EST~~)

::*Does Cargo achieve those points? I genuinely don't know, but just some things to consider. [[User:Kyliotic|Kyliotic]] ([[User talk:Kyliotic|talk]]) 06:04, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

:::@[[User:Kyliotic|Kyliotic]]<nowiki> this time the ping worked. Maybe I missed it last time or I had the page open in another tab and that messed it up. You should take a look at the page I linked, I think it will help (eg ~~~~ automatically signs mesaages for you) I am aware how you are replying, I wrote the FAQ entry on it a month ago. Actually disregard the source editor stuff, let me just confirm your account ao you can just skip the captchas and reply using the ui.</nowiki>

:::* The metadata used with Cargo/Semantic media wiki is meant to be used like you descibe by the extension. Also they will be user editable as well.

:::* The clinton cat extension did initially work like you describe(querries to the api for every page) but that has shifted. I would suggest working with them as they have a basic ui (as I understand it), there are a couple of people already working on it and it has been the one Louis has been linking. Work has been stalled for a bit (mainly waiting on the extension to be added) but I think combining resources would help here. Maybe make a PR to share your idea on what the metadata format should contain? Or even the whole flow you currently use.

:::* Automating this is how we are planning to do it. It should be possible through the API and a scriot but I dont have anything concrete yet.

:::Also if you join the discrors communication would probably be easier. If you prefer not to I am happy to use talk pages and using github for the extension should also be fine, but it would help get on the same page faster I think. [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 09:04, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

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 :There is some conversation on a thred on the on-topic chanell on the discord server as well.
 :[[Consumer_Action_Taskforce:Talk_page_guidelines| The talk page guidelines might help with the captcha issues in the meantime]] [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 21:16, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
-::Test [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 08:31, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
 ::@[[User:Kostas|Kostas]], Interesting info. I have to manually edit the discussion source in order to reply. Perhaps that also breaks notifications/pings. Cargo might be helpful with metadata read/write, but I have never used it.
 ::*So far, with simple embedded JSON, my extension can already look up if a website URL has been added to a wiki lookup table/database, and if is, it pulls embedded JSON from the wiki's product/organization articles. I just need to make GUI and then the basic concept is functional.
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 ::*But also, in my opinion, the nice thing about having the metadata embedded in the article source is that anyone may edit and fix metadata (once a proper format is established of course). So when someone creates a new article, someone can easily copy/paste a metadata template, edit it, and have the changes update live to the extension.
 ::*Maybe even some automation to automatically generate extension metadata (likely only possible with a MediaWiki extension)
-::*Does Cargo achieve those points? I genuinely  don't  know, but just some things to consider. [[User:Kyliotic|Kyliotic]] ([[User talk:Kyliotic|talk]]) 01:04, 4 March 2025 (EST)
+::*Does Cargo achieve those points? I genuinely  don't  know, but just some things to consider. [[User:Kyliotic|Kyliotic]] ([[User talk:Kyliotic|talk]]) 06:04, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
+:::@[[User:Kyliotic|Kyliotic]]<nowiki> this time the ping worked. Maybe I missed it last time or I had the page open in another tab and that messed it up. You should take a look at the page I linked, I think it will help (eg ~~~~ automatically signs mesaages for you) I am aware how you are replying, I wrote the FAQ entry on it a month ago. Actually disregard the source editor stuff, let me just confirm your account ao you can just skip the captchas and reply using the ui.</nowiki>
+:::* The metadata used with Cargo/Semantic media wiki is meant to be used like you descibe by the extension. Also they will be user editable as well.
+:::* The clinton cat extension did initially work like you describe(querries to the api for every page) but that has shifted. I would suggest working with them as they have a basic ui (as I understand it), there are a couple of people already working on it and it has been the one Louis has been linking. Work has been stalled for a bit (mainly waiting on the extension to be added) but I think combining resources would help here. Maybe make a PR to share your idea on what the metadata format should contain? Or even the whole flow you currently use.
+:::* Automating this is how we are planning to do it. It should be possible through the API and a scriot but I dont have anything concrete yet.
+:::Also if you join the discrors communication would probably be easier. If you prefer not to I am happy to use talk pages and using github for the extension should also be fine, but it would help get on the same page faster I think.  [[User:Kostas|Kostas]] ([[User talk:Kostas|talk]]) 09:04, 4 March 2025 (UTC)