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:I'm also gonna take the opportunity to clarify this to any future editors as well: from what I understand, Bumpgate was technically not entirely their fault. (If it was, why would ''ATI'' chips have the same problem?) They just ended up taking much of the blame for it because they got sued. Nonetheless, what little I currently know about their response does seem potentially relevant, hence why it's going into the article.

:As usual, will update if I find any more sources. [[User:Vindicator4021|- V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 15:14, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::Found some info on Apple's role in all this! Found it on the Wikipedia page for the Macbook Pro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Aluminum_(2006%E2%80%932008) The last paragraph in the 2006-2008 section mentions that there were defects in those GPUs that sound awfully familiar. In addition, it used a Tesla architecture GPU- which I have heard (not fully confirmed) had a few Bumpgate-affected models. The above linked "affected models" page for the Nvidia suit pretty much confirms- this was Bumpgate.

::https://gizmodo.com/apple-confirms-failing-nvidia-graphics-cards-in-macbook-5061605 - Details Apple's response, which I'll include in the article, because I think it's relevant enough. TL;DR is that they basically responded the same way Microsoft did with the Xbox 360: ignored it at first, but later extended warranty (except to ''four'' years) and refunded folks who paid to fix it before. [[User:Vindicator4021|- V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 19:02, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Apparently, I'm *not the only person ''still'' obsessed with this ten year old scandal lately. Felix just posted another video on it yesterday- this time, using experiments to prove that the PS3's RSX was theoretically affected by Bumpgate. It's honestly great that he posted this, because this is a more dedicated, and hence better source for his tests on the RSX than the 360 video (which is still a useful source- just for different reasons!).

:Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjtRjGPLhI

:Side note: I do wonder if he's seen this article somehow, or if it was just a funny coincidence. Nonetheless... if you happen to see this, Felix, thanks for drawing attention to this issue. You're basically the reason this article exists, because I might've never known about Bumpgate if you hadn't posted all those videos about the 7th console generation's GPU problems. [[User:Vindicator4021|- V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 19:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

:I'm super close to finishing this, so here's the "ultimate reference source" for Nvidia's section:

:https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-laptops-tablets-and-mobile-devices/83833-nvidia-bumpgate?t=94383

:Archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240520214728/https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-laptops-tablets-and-mobile-devices/83833-nvidia-bumpgate?t=94383

:This is a forum topic from BadCaps user "piernov"- something I wish I'dve found much, much earlier in this process. It makes the Nvidia stuff way clearer, and even contains some links I could not find on my own for whatever reason. I won't be referencing the BadCaps post directly in the article, but I will be referencing many of the links contained in it. If you have anything to add to this article (especially the Nvidia, Apple, or Dell & HP-Compaq segments), I would highly recommend checking out the BadCaps post. I even found something from AMD (formerly ATI) in there. [[User:Vindicator4021|- V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 23:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

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 :I'm also gonna take the opportunity to clarify this to any future editors as well: from what I understand, Bumpgate was technically not entirely their fault. (If it was, why would ''ATI'' chips have the same problem?) They just ended up taking much of the blame for it because they got sued. Nonetheless, what little I currently know about their response does seem potentially relevant, hence why it's going into the article.
 :As usual, will update if I find any more sources. [[User:Vindicator4021|&#45; V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 15:14, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
+::Found some info on Apple's role in all this! Found it on the Wikipedia page for the Macbook Pro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro#Aluminum_(2006%E2%80%932008) The last paragraph in the 2006-2008 section mentions that there were defects in those GPUs that sound awfully familiar. In addition, it used a Tesla architecture GPU- which I have heard (not fully confirmed) had a few Bumpgate-affected models. The above linked "affected models" page for the Nvidia suit pretty much confirms- this was Bumpgate.
+::https://gizmodo.com/apple-confirms-failing-nvidia-graphics-cards-in-macbook-5061605 - Details Apple's response, which I'll include in the article, because I think it's relevant enough. TL;DR is that they basically responded the same way Microsoft did with the Xbox 360: ignored it at first, but later extended warranty (except to ''four'' years) and refunded folks who paid to fix it before. [[User:Vindicator4021|&#45; V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 19:02, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
+:Apparently, I'm *not the only person ''still'' obsessed with this ten year old scandal lately. Felix just posted another video on it yesterday- this time, using experiments to prove that the PS3's RSX was theoretically affected by Bumpgate. It's honestly great that he posted this, because this is a more dedicated, and hence better source for his tests on the RSX than the 360 video (which is still a useful source- just for different reasons!).
+:Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjtRjGPLhI
+:Side note: I do wonder if he's seen this article somehow, or if it was just a funny coincidence. Nonetheless... if you happen to see this, Felix, thanks for drawing attention to this issue. You're basically the reason this article exists, because I might've never known about Bumpgate if you hadn't posted all those videos about the 7th console generation's GPU problems. [[User:Vindicator4021|&#45; V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 19:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
+:I'm super close to finishing this, so here's the "ultimate reference source" for Nvidia's section:
+:https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-laptops-tablets-and-mobile-devices/83833-nvidia-bumpgate?t=94383
+:Archived link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240520214728/https://www.badcaps.net/forum/troubleshooting-hardware-devices-and-electronics-theory/troubleshooting-laptops-tablets-and-mobile-devices/83833-nvidia-bumpgate?t=94383
+:This is a forum topic from BadCaps user "piernov"- something I wish I'dve found much, much earlier in this process. It makes the Nvidia stuff way clearer, and even contains some links I could not find on my own for whatever reason. I won't be referencing the BadCaps post directly in the article, but I will be referencing many of the links contained in it. If you have anything to add to this article (especially the Nvidia, Apple, or Dell & HP-Compaq segments), I would highly recommend checking out the BadCaps post. I even found something from AMD (formerly ATI) in there. [[User:Vindicator4021|&#45; V (Vindicator4021)]] ([[User talk:Vindicator4021|talk]]) 23:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC)