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==Looking good==
{{Archives}}


Looks like we are doing alright so far with this page; lol... people go ahead of me - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 02:51, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
==Hey what happened to my account?==


==Can we categorize this?==
I am currently using "Edit Source" as a way to communicate, but I am not sure what happened. What happened to "Edit" what happened to me not able to reply? What did I do?


Just to clean up [[Special:UncategorizedPages]]. I suggest putting this page under [[:Category:CAT]]. [[User:Waldo|Waldo]] ([[User talk:Waldo|talk]]) 08:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
:@[[User:Jerry468|Jerry468]] This happens in discussions, for some reason there is no 'edit' button in discussion pages, instead use the 'reply' button next to discussions or the 'Add Topic' button on the top right. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|<i><b>AnotherConsumerRightsPerson</b></i>]] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 15:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)


Moved this into the CAT category so it isn't eaten by special pages as requested; looks like it may have already been in the root namespace but just for clarity sake until we build a full on mainpage. Thanks for the catch <3 - [[User:Atsumari|Atsumari]] ([[User talk:Atsumari|talk]]) 11:36, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
=="Random Page" should be front and center :)==


==Anonymization of non-logged in user IPs==
When browsing without an account "Random Page" is hidden behind a menu. Is there a way to plop it right next to "search" or in the middle of the home page to better facilitate visitors? (or maybe a browse button? Or a "New here? Read about consumer rights here!" where it gives a quick into and recommends a good page to start browsing).


I would like to request that users who make edits without user accounts do not have their full IP published in the edit log.
Its just a little overwhelming to be a visitor curious about consumer rights and not having a clear place to start. [[User:Mallveo|Mallveo]] ([[User talk:Mallveo|talk]]) 21:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)


:I made a suggestion on the Discord server on your behalf. [[User:Waldo|Waldo]] ([[User talk:Waldo|talk]]) 10:44, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
:Hi, sorry for none of us replying! Pinging @[[User:Keith|Keith]] as he can give a much better response, but from what I understand we are doing a full UI redesign in 2026. As for things being front and center, maybe we could consider that as an option when we do that, but there is a sidebar already showing some important information on the left. Hope that helps. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 19:47, 31 December 2025 (UTC)
::I think the thing they're meaning with this is that the sidebar starts out collapsed if you're not logged in, so it's not obviously visible to a new user. This is something that should probably be fixed regardless of any UI redesign as I think the sidebar's pretty important for site navigation.
::For now a random article link on the main page seems like a decent shout! [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 18:09, 5 January 2026 (UTC)
:::Oh, that definitely shouldn't be hidden, I didn't know that! [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 19:27, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
::::This is a default feature of Vector 2022. I’d fixed this before, but it got overwritten when we redid a lot of the infrastructure. I’ll add it back when I get a chance. [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 01:09, 28 January 2026 (UTC)
::::Now fixed! :) [[User:JakeL|JakeL]] ([[User talk:JakeL|talk]]) 21:14, 1 February 2026 (UTC)


:For that there is an extension called AnonPrivacy https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AnonPrivacy [[User:Fen|Fen]] ([[User talk:Fen|talk]]) 22:02, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
==not to alarm you guys... but...==
::Greetings, I made the suggestion to the team on your behalf. At the momment, there is no plan or intention to anonymize IPs for non-logged in users. It helps with accountability as knowing the IP will be visible deterring bad behavior. It also makes moderation easier. Realistically the only alternative is hashing the ip which complex and destroys the core principles that the wiki is about. [[User:Fen|Fen]] ([[User talk:Fen|talk]]) 23:16, 15 July 2025 (UTC)


: Anyone who does not want their IP publicly logged should create an account. It is quick and easy. Besides, public IPs have in the past exposed edits from companies such as Daimler (Mercedes-Benz) ([https://www.thelocal.de/20120312/41281/ source]). [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 01:40, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
1000 pages boyssssssssssssss! we done it. (now can we please take care of [[:Category:Articles with deletion requests|dis]]) [[User:SinexTitan|SinexTitan]] ([[User talk:SinexTitan|talk]]) 19:12, 21 January 2026 (UTC)


==Add a patent as a source==
==Top articles correction==


My interest in this woke up when editing [[Figma threatens companies using "Dev Mode"|this article]], and following the [[wikipedia:Template:Cite_patent|Wikipedia page to cite from a patent]], when previewing the article the reference wasn't rendered properly. I don't know if I screwed up something or really the site doesn't support yet the use of this format. Hope someone could illustrate me on how to move on with this [[User:Fjordpining|Fjordpining]] ([[User talk:Fjordpining|talk]]) 06:33, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
I moved the page [[Milwaukee battery DRM]] because "DRM" was lowercase previously. The main page still uses the formatting from the redirect that the page move left behind, even after purging the cache, so it must be manually updated. More importantly, the link for [[Digital rights management]] is dead; I'm going to add a redirect, but I'm leaving this here as a heads up. [[User:Bythmusters|Bythmusters]] ([[User talk:Bythmusters|talk]]) 18:05, 29 January 2026 (UTC)


==stating "Recently updated" not particularly helpful==
:{{Done}}. DRM link was probs alr fixed by JakeL. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 17:16, 30 January 2026 (UTC)


On [https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Special:CreateAccount&returnto=Special%3ARecentChanges| the "create account" page], near the bottom, it says, "We have recently updated our privacy policy."  How recently?  It doesn't say.  The logical assumption which must be made is that it has changed seconds ago, and must be reread.  How about instead displaying something along the lines of, "Our privacy policy was last updated on <date>", even if there does not exist a way to automate the display of the date, and the "create account" page (or the page of any other such notice) must be edited by hand?
==Seeking Help to Reconfigure Bluetooth Settings on a Medical Prosthetic Knee==


:this is valid, and we'll try and get it fixed shortly [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 08:29, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
Hi everyone,
==Dependence on phone app for basic functions, make an article?==


I'm on Frontier internet, only gig around and I think they know it. We got fiber a few years ago and if you want wi-fi you either go with the Amazon Eeros(?) or learn how to do your own router. The Eeros seems that you can only access settings with a phone app, no desktop. Would this qualify it for an article on here? I've also heard about sleezy back door things happening either from Amazon or the IP itself, that they can access settings the customer cannot. Anyhow I don't want to just go ahead and write some poorly put together article and it shouldn't even be on here. [[User:Sawbones|Sawbones]] ([[User talk:Sawbones|talk]]) 17:57, 14 August 2025 (UTC)
I’m hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. I’m a transfemoral amputee using a second-hand Bluetooth-enabled prosthetic knee. The knee itself is fully functional, but it’s an older, discontinued model, and that’s where the problem starts.


:This probably depends on the level of coverage. have there been any news articles (local or otherwise) which are complaining about this? Forcing the customer to use unneccesarily invasive software to access a service is something which definitely fits within the wiki's scope, and anything which is happening across a whole ISP would be large-scale enough, but the final thing an article needs is good sources [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 08:27, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
The manufacturer’s configuration software is now obsolete and no longer supported, so my prosthetist cannot reconfigure the knee using official tools anymore. I do have legitimate access:
• The device is mine
• I can successfully connect to it via Bluetooth
• I have the pairing key and can use the mobile app
However, the mobile app only exposes very limited settings, and I need access to deeper / advanced configuration parameters that directly affect my gait, stability, and overall mobility. These settings clearly exist (they were adjustable when the device was still supported), but they’re now locked behind software that no longer runs.


==Cruzaders kings 2 incident.==
What I’m trying to understand is whether it’s possible to:
• Inspect or understand the Bluetooth communication used by the original software/app
• Identify the relevant commands, characteristics, or protocol used to configure the knee
• Modify or send specific configuration values using modern tools, without relying on the deprecated software
This is not about bypassing security or hacking a device I don’t own — it’s a medical device that I depend on daily, and I’m simply trying to regain access to functionality that the hardware is already capable of, but software obsolescence has taken away.


Hi everyone, as a fan of Paradox games and somebody that really wants to write in this wiki i wanted to ask something... what right exactly the paradox incident covers? i want to do it, but i dont understand quite exactly what i should do at writting it, why its an anti ownership or anti consumer practice, i need to understand that first to start it, because if i dont recognize well the systematic issue i think that i cannot treat it. [[User:Predatitor41|Predatitor41]] ([[User talk:Predatitor41|talk]]) 01:26, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
I’m open to learning and doing this properly, and I understand this may involve BLE analysis, protocol reverse-engineering, or embedded/Bluetooth tooling. Even high-level guidance on where to start (tools, workflows, or similar experiences) would be incredibly helpful.


:I think I see the one you mean on the article suggestions. I'm honeslt not sure why it should be there either, it doesn't seem to fit. They sell a lot of DLC and it's quite expensive, but there's nothing particularly deceptive going on there from what I can tell. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 08:29, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
If anyone has experience with:
::It looks like it was eliminated of suggestion articles, i dont know why but it looks like it was discarded. [[User:Predatitor41|Predatitor41]] ([[User talk:Predatitor41|talk]]) 14:44, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
• Bluetooth or BLE reverse engineering
:::I removed it for reasons stated previously - it (at least the way it was phrased in the entry) did not seem like something which would fit on the wiki [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 14:48, 15 August 2025 (UTC)
• GATT analysis, packet sniffing, or custom Bluetooth protocols
or is willing to help guide me through this, I’d be deeply grateful. This isn’t just a technical curiosity — it’s about maintaining my independence and quality of life.


== Replace PrivacyTools.io with PrivacyGuides ==
Thank you so much for reading. [[User:Daniel2299|Daniel2299]] ([[User talk:Daniel2299|talk]]) 23:54, 6 February 2026 (UTC)


As per PrivacyGuides FAQ page https://www.privacyguides.org/en/about/privacytools/
==Add diagrams==


"In September 2021, every active contributor unanimously agreed to move from PrivacyTools to work on this site: Privacy Guides. This decision was made because PrivacyTools’ founder and controller of the domain name had disappeared for an extended period of time and could not be contacted.
I know this is likely already covered under some other site or maybe it is here and I missed it.  


Having built a reputable site and set of services on PrivacyTools.io, this caused grave concerns for the future of PrivacyTools, as any future disruption could wipe out the entire organization with no recovery method. This transition was communicated to the PrivacyTools community many months in advance via a variety of channels including its blog, Twitter, Reddit, and Mastodon to ensure the entire process went as smoothly as possible. We did this to ensure nobody was kept in the dark, which has been our modus operandi since our team was created, and to make sure Privacy Guides was recognized as the same reliable organization that PrivacyTools was before the transition.
Would it be possible to have a section for an archive of wiring diagramsand maybe user manuals? I havee no ideas how it could be archived ie by year the product was made, or company, or company product subproduct.  


After the organizational move was completed, the founder of PrivacyTools returned and began to spread misinformation about the Privacy Guides project. They continue to spread misinformation in addition to operating a paid link farm on the PrivacyTools domain. We are creating this page to clear up any misconceptions."
I worry that may bring unwanted attention from companies trying to keep their diagrams proprietary. That or this will be the location of the next top secret leak.


The current PrivacyTools.io site has obvious but undisclosed sponsored promotions of Nord Security products (NordVPN, Surfshark, Incogni) and maybe others as well. The events that transpired that led to the forming of PrivacyGuides are verifiable through searching community posts at the time and other sources. For those that remember the "leading" members of PrivacyTools at the time (Jonah Aragon, Daniel Gray, Niek-de-Wilde, freddy...), all of them were the ones who made PrivacyGuides and moved along with the whole community. Their forum and other channels are filled with community discussion and all recommendation additions and removals are debated in public as was the case with PrivacyTools in the past. Meanwhile today PrivacyTools.io doesn't even have an "About" page or anything,and while there is a Github page linked on the site, there doesn't seem to be a way to actually contribute (https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacy-tools/discussions/18).
I could also see this being a data sink that is rarely used.


== Addition of NOYB.eu to the Consumer Tools section ==
I  know a some of the manuals/ diagrams are hidden behind a pay wall or almost impossible to find and having one location that is not going to charge a subscription later would be great.  [[Special:Contributions/72.22.224.50|72.22.224.50]] 19:57, 13 February 2026 (UTC)


Suggestion to add https://noyb.eu/en to one of the subsections of the Consumer Tools sections. Possibly in the "Legal & complaint filing" subsection. It's a non-profit, specifically about data privacy and protection within the EU. [[User:Socks|Socks]] ([[User talk:Socks|talk]]) 17:05, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
==JFK Consumer Bill of Rights==


== Need to confer with Champion Power Equipment employees ==
I'd like to suggest that CR-Wiki identify the best location on the Site to commemorate Jack Kennedy's 1962 Consumer Bill of Rights, which, although never specifically codified into US national Consumer Rights law, has nevertheless served as a model for many related Consumer movements and laws. [[User:Campaign for Good Government|Campaign for Good Government]] ([[User talk:Campaign for Good Government|talk]]) 00:30, 24 February 2026 (UTC)


I'm a small engine mechanic and I'm going to start a post about the dual fuel generators they produce. They are flawed regardless of intentions, and would like exact specs if anyone has that information, Mainly need the cylinder, and piston specs as well as the dry fuel ratio.
==What happened to the main page==


The case is a denied warranty for one of our customers that I'm sure has to be a common issue with this design.  
why does the main page look like this https://ibb.co/21XSXgWC https://ibb.co/MkDgJrf1 ? Did I do something, how do I fix it? [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 17:54, 5 March 2026 (UTC)


I plan to research online but It would be faster to have people who have direct access to the information, We were and still are a warranty center for them but one of champion's employees insulted us and our competence on the case I'm referring to, and we haven't gotten any contact from champion since so not really in the situation to reach out for information that they'd most likely deny or ignore us on.
:Don't worry - Jake's just playing around with the templates and formatting to try and make it look a bit nicer! should settle down shortly [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 18:05, 5 March 2026 (UTC)
::Thanks for letting me know [[User:Andrew V|Andrew V]] ([[User talk:Andrew V|talk]]) 18:08, 5 March 2026 (UTC)


If anyone on here is an employee in their parts department, or a similar department with access to publicly known part numbers and specs please reach out, the small engine industry is a problem lately that's only getting worse. It would be nice to document issues that arise It would also be nice to have someone with engineering experience and credentials to verify data and calculate it themselves, especially in the gas powered equipment sector/industry [[User:The Wang|The Wang]] ([[User talk:The Wang|talk]]) 20:20, 16 August 2025 (UTC)
==An incorrect link and more==


== Will this wiki publish regular backups? ==
The Clippy Daily Dot article link is incorrect in the "In the News" template being transcluded to the Main Page
:the link is    https://www.dailydot.com/culture/youtube-clippy-pfx/
:but should be  https://dailydot.com/youtube-clippy-pfp
The correct link says "pfp" (profile picture) and the incorrect link says "pfx" for some reason.


The Wikimedia Foundation regularly publishes [https://dumps.wikimedia.org/ compressed archives] of its wikis. This sets an example I wish every website with text-based user-generated contributions would follow. It is important to preserve the contribution history should this site go offline. Besides, text is well compressable.


Many websites in the past have shut down with little to no warning, resulting in the loss of years of volunteer contributions. We need to pre-empt this.
It was a pain to find the transcluded template with the error:
:https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Template:Main_Page/In_The_News
Since this other similar page is linked from the template:
:https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Consumer_Rights_Wiki:In_the_news
It's atypical of MediaWiki based projects to not directly link to the view template page from the template itself. And maybe the page similarity issue should be solved with a merge?


<blockquote>
Issue: No Backup, No Distribution
For reasons and examples stated in this article, any centralized web-based service will go offline some day. Some sooner, some later. Popularity is not even a guarantee that a service gets continued
</blockquote>


Source: [https://karl-voit.at/2020/10/23/avoid-web-forums/ Karl Voit].
Lastly, and most significantly, the historical view of the Main Page at the time of the edit that added the template in question (6 July 2025)
:https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=16466
includes the Daily Dot Clippy story (12 August 2025) which wasn't available at the time of the edit, demonstrating that the transclusion was refreshed even for the '''''older revisions''''' of the Main Page. The older "renderings" of the page shouldn't have been modified with updated transclusions not just for preservation purposes, but also because it would waste a bunch of the server time dealing with extra stuff in the MediaWiki Job Queue.


[[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 03:59, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
I am not sure how hard those other things are to fix but there you go. [[Special:Contributions/209.44.198.25|209.44.198.25]] 09:48, 20 March 2026 (UTC)


== Suggestion: install view counters ==
:Sorry for not seeing this earlier and thanks a lot for this! I've done the first as it's very easy, but @[[User:JakeL|JakeL]] could do the second one as I'm not sure how to fix it. [[User:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|'''''AnotherConsumerRightsPerson''''']] ([[User talk:AnotherConsumerRightsPerson|talk]]) 09:36, 22 March 2026 (UTC)


Please install [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HitCounters HitCounters] for MediaWiki. This extension shows the view counts an article is getting. It would be nice to see it. [[User:Elominius|Elominius]] ([[User talk:Elominius|talk]]) 08:15, 17 August 2025 (UTC)
== Identify Consumer Tools with Anti-Consumer Concessions? ==
 
I specifically bring this up because of the recommendation of Trim, the OneMain version of Rocket Money. When clicking the link, I'd initially expected it would be some financial tool with crowd-sourced identifiers for various subscription services that you could drop your statements into to identify unintentional spending. On actually reading the Privacy Policy, however, it's very much the same case as any other major finance app where they're sharing your every identifier to advertisers and retaining your personal information for up to 12 months.
 
I'm not saying this is inherently wrong or that such practices should immediately disqualify it from being listed on the site, but I do think it would be in the spirit of the wiki to add some kind of identifier for tools/services which are run by entities prone to anti-consumer practices, just to help someone who might assume that any tool recommended by users of the wiki would also abide by the apparent values of the wiki, without them actually verifying that such is the case. I think something similar to the adjacent tool's [requires subscription] label would suffice. Maybe even just an asterisk with a line at the bottom of the box clarifying that while this tool is useful, it comes with one or more anti-consumer concessions.
 
I think the ultimate "fix" for this is to create individual pages for each tool, or category of tool, or one long "Consumer Tools" page with fleshed out details on each item, but that's a much more involved project than what I think would be sufficient for right now(TM).
 
That said, I can also see the argument that one should be privy to the privacy policy and ToS with any product, so perhaps that behavior is assumed and this isn't considered to be within the scope of the wiki. That, along with determining the specifics if something were to be implemented to address my concern, is why I thought it would make sense to put this in the Talk page. [[User:AROAH|AROAH]] ([[User talk:AROAH|talk]]) 06:18, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 06:18, 5 April 2026

Previous discussions

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Hey what happened to my account?

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I am currently using "Edit Source" as a way to communicate, but I am not sure what happened. What happened to "Edit" what happened to me not able to reply? What did I do?

@Jerry468 This happens in discussions, for some reason there is no 'edit' button in discussion pages, instead use the 'reply' button next to discussions or the 'Add Topic' button on the top right. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 15:31, 29 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

"Random Page" should be front and center :)

[edit source]

When browsing without an account "Random Page" is hidden behind a menu. Is there a way to plop it right next to "search" or in the middle of the home page to better facilitate visitors? (or maybe a browse button? Or a "New here? Read about consumer rights here!" where it gives a quick into and recommends a good page to start browsing).

Its just a little overwhelming to be a visitor curious about consumer rights and not having a clear place to start. Mallveo (talk) 21:39, 10 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hi, sorry for none of us replying! Pinging @Keith as he can give a much better response, but from what I understand we are doing a full UI redesign in 2026. As for things being front and center, maybe we could consider that as an option when we do that, but there is a sidebar already showing some important information on the left. Hope that helps. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 19:47, 31 December 2025 (UTC)Reply
I think the thing they're meaning with this is that the sidebar starts out collapsed if you're not logged in, so it's not obviously visible to a new user. This is something that should probably be fixed regardless of any UI redesign as I think the sidebar's pretty important for site navigation.
For now a random article link on the main page seems like a decent shout! Keith (talk) 18:09, 5 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oh, that definitely shouldn't be hidden, I didn't know that! AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 19:27, 10 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
This is a default feature of Vector 2022. I’d fixed this before, but it got overwritten when we redid a lot of the infrastructure. I’ll add it back when I get a chance. JakeL (talk) 01:09, 28 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Now fixed! :) JakeL (talk) 21:14, 1 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

not to alarm you guys... but...

[edit source]

1000 pages boyssssssssssssss! we done it. (now can we please take care of dis) SinexTitan (talk) 19:12, 21 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Top articles correction

[edit source]

I moved the page Milwaukee battery DRM because "DRM" was lowercase previously. The main page still uses the formatting from the redirect that the page move left behind, even after purging the cache, so it must be manually updated. More importantly, the link for Digital rights management is dead; I'm going to add a redirect, but I'm leaving this here as a heads up. Bythmusters (talk) 18:05, 29 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

 Done. DRM link was probs alr fixed by JakeL. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 17:16, 30 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Seeking Help to Reconfigure Bluetooth Settings on a Medical Prosthetic Knee

[edit source]

Hi everyone,

I’m hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. I’m a transfemoral amputee using a second-hand Bluetooth-enabled prosthetic knee. The knee itself is fully functional, but it’s an older, discontinued model, and that’s where the problem starts.

The manufacturer’s configuration software is now obsolete and no longer supported, so my prosthetist cannot reconfigure the knee using official tools anymore. I do have legitimate access:

•	The device is mine

•	I can successfully connect to it via Bluetooth

•	I have the pairing key and can use the mobile app

However, the mobile app only exposes very limited settings, and I need access to deeper / advanced configuration parameters that directly affect my gait, stability, and overall mobility. These settings clearly exist (they were adjustable when the device was still supported), but they’re now locked behind software that no longer runs.

What I’m trying to understand is whether it’s possible to:

•	Inspect or understand the Bluetooth communication used by the original software/app

•	Identify the relevant commands, characteristics, or protocol used to configure the knee

•	Modify or send specific configuration values using modern tools, without relying on the deprecated software

This is not about bypassing security or hacking a device I don’t own — it’s a medical device that I depend on daily, and I’m simply trying to regain access to functionality that the hardware is already capable of, but software obsolescence has taken away.

I’m open to learning and doing this properly, and I understand this may involve BLE analysis, protocol reverse-engineering, or embedded/Bluetooth tooling. Even high-level guidance on where to start (tools, workflows, or similar experiences) would be incredibly helpful.

If anyone has experience with:

•	Bluetooth or BLE reverse engineering

•	GATT analysis, packet sniffing, or custom Bluetooth protocols

or is willing to help guide me through this, I’d be deeply grateful. This isn’t just a technical curiosity — it’s about maintaining my independence and quality of life.

Thank you so much for reading. Daniel2299 (talk) 23:54, 6 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

Add diagrams

[edit source]

I know this is likely already covered under some other site or maybe it is here and I missed it.

Would it be possible to have a section for an archive of wiring diagramsand maybe user manuals? I havee no ideas how it could be archived ie by year the product was made, or company, or company product subproduct.

I worry that may bring unwanted attention from companies trying to keep their diagrams proprietary. That or this will be the location of the next top secret leak.

I could also see this being a data sink that is rarely used.

I know a some of the manuals/ diagrams are hidden behind a pay wall or almost impossible to find and having one location that is not going to charge a subscription later would be great. 72.22.224.50 19:57, 13 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

JFK Consumer Bill of Rights

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I'd like to suggest that CR-Wiki identify the best location on the Site to commemorate Jack Kennedy's 1962 Consumer Bill of Rights, which, although never specifically codified into US national Consumer Rights law, has nevertheless served as a model for many related Consumer movements and laws. Campaign for Good Government (talk) 00:30, 24 February 2026 (UTC)Reply

What happened to the main page

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why does the main page look like this https://ibb.co/21XSXgWC https://ibb.co/MkDgJrf1 ? Did I do something, how do I fix it? Andrew V (talk) 17:54, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Don't worry - Jake's just playing around with the templates and formatting to try and make it look a bit nicer! should settle down shortly Keith (talk) 18:05, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for letting me know Andrew V (talk) 18:08, 5 March 2026 (UTC)Reply
[edit source]

The Clippy Daily Dot article link is incorrect in the "In the News" template being transcluded to the Main Page

the link is https://www.dailydot.com/culture/youtube-clippy-pfx/
but should be https://dailydot.com/youtube-clippy-pfp

The correct link says "pfp" (profile picture) and the incorrect link says "pfx" for some reason.


It was a pain to find the transcluded template with the error:

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Template:Main_Page/In_The_News

Since this other similar page is linked from the template:

https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Consumer_Rights_Wiki:In_the_news

It's atypical of MediaWiki based projects to not directly link to the view template page from the template itself. And maybe the page similarity issue should be solved with a merge?


Lastly, and most significantly, the historical view of the Main Page at the time of the edit that added the template in question (6 July 2025)

https://consumerrights.wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=16466

includes the Daily Dot Clippy story (12 August 2025) which wasn't available at the time of the edit, demonstrating that the transclusion was refreshed even for the older revisions of the Main Page. The older "renderings" of the page shouldn't have been modified with updated transclusions not just for preservation purposes, but also because it would waste a bunch of the server time dealing with extra stuff in the MediaWiki Job Queue.

I am not sure how hard those other things are to fix but there you go. 209.44.198.25 09:48, 20 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for not seeing this earlier and thanks a lot for this! I've done the first as it's very easy, but @JakeL could do the second one as I'm not sure how to fix it. AnotherConsumerRightsPerson (talk) 09:36, 22 March 2026 (UTC)Reply

Identify Consumer Tools with Anti-Consumer Concessions?

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I specifically bring this up because of the recommendation of Trim, the OneMain version of Rocket Money. When clicking the link, I'd initially expected it would be some financial tool with crowd-sourced identifiers for various subscription services that you could drop your statements into to identify unintentional spending. On actually reading the Privacy Policy, however, it's very much the same case as any other major finance app where they're sharing your every identifier to advertisers and retaining your personal information for up to 12 months.

I'm not saying this is inherently wrong or that such practices should immediately disqualify it from being listed on the site, but I do think it would be in the spirit of the wiki to add some kind of identifier for tools/services which are run by entities prone to anti-consumer practices, just to help someone who might assume that any tool recommended by users of the wiki would also abide by the apparent values of the wiki, without them actually verifying that such is the case. I think something similar to the adjacent tool's [requires subscription] label would suffice. Maybe even just an asterisk with a line at the bottom of the box clarifying that while this tool is useful, it comes with one or more anti-consumer concessions.

I think the ultimate "fix" for this is to create individual pages for each tool, or category of tool, or one long "Consumer Tools" page with fleshed out details on each item, but that's a much more involved project than what I think would be sufficient for right now(TM).

That said, I can also see the argument that one should be privy to the privacy policy and ToS with any product, so perhaps that behavior is assumed and this isn't considered to be within the scope of the wiki. That, along with determining the specifics if something were to be implemented to address my concern, is why I thought it would make sense to put this in the Talk page. AROAH (talk) 06:18, 5 April 2026 (UTC)Reply