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:I wonder whether this might be better reframed - as the practices that lead to e-waste are often anti-consumer, we should be framing them from an anti-consumer perspective rather than an environmental one. maybe 'Apple's anti-repair and anti-refurbishment practices', or something similar? [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:58, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
:I wonder whether this might be better reframed - as the practices that lead to e-waste are often anti-consumer, we should be framing them from an anti-consumer perspective rather than an environmental one. maybe 'Apple's anti-repair and anti-refurbishment practices', or something similar? [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 15:58, 11 September 2025 (UTC)
::Its focus from the start has been from a consumer perspective, but it was just difficult coming up with a good name for the article lol [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 08:32, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
::Its focus from the start has been from a consumer perspective, but it was just difficult coming up with a good name for the article lol [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 08:32, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
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I am unable to see how "Blocking 3rd-party apps" falls under anti-repair and anti-refurbishment (if we are talking about general Jailbreaking/Cydia or alternative app stores). I feel like it should stay on the main Apple article. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 16:25, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
:Agree. The original title of this page was 'apple's e-waste [something]', but I don't think it would have fit there either. [[User:Keith|Keith]] ([[User talk:Keith|talk]]) 16:27, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
:Well, 3rd-party apps include diagnostic tools as well... [[User:JamesTDG|JamesTDG]] ([[User talk:JamesTDG|talk]]) 16:29, 12 September 2025 (UTC)
::To my knowledge, repair shops use external devices to diagnose iPhones, [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EUlhTPLfrV0 like here]. Correct me if i'm wrong though, as I really know of that one example. [[User:Mr Pollo|Mr Pollo]] ([[User talk:Mr Pollo|talk]]) 16:32, 12 September 2025 (UTC)

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Building this article up[edit source]

Our article on Apple is EXTREMELY disorganized, so this is part of a cleanup effort to reorganize the page by grouping incidents together since a lot of them are under the same banner as contributing to e-waste. I have already taken a few notes of what to add here from the existing article, but I will be adding extra information to here as well. Do at least try to give this the same amount of respect that a theme article gets, since this feels like it could be in the same boat. JamesTDG (talk) 14:34, 11 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

I wonder whether this might be better reframed - as the practices that lead to e-waste are often anti-consumer, we should be framing them from an anti-consumer perspective rather than an environmental one. maybe 'Apple's anti-repair and anti-refurbishment practices', or something similar? Keith (talk) 15:58, 11 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Its focus from the start has been from a consumer perspective, but it was just difficult coming up with a good name for the article lol JamesTDG (talk) 08:32, 12 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Question[edit source]

I am unable to see how "Blocking 3rd-party apps" falls under anti-repair and anti-refurbishment (if we are talking about general Jailbreaking/Cydia or alternative app stores). I feel like it should stay on the main Apple article. Mr Pollo (talk) 16:25, 12 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Agree. The original title of this page was 'apple's e-waste [something]', but I don't think it would have fit there either. Keith (talk) 16:27, 12 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Well, 3rd-party apps include diagnostic tools as well... JamesTDG (talk) 16:29, 12 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
To my knowledge, repair shops use external devices to diagnose iPhones, like here. Correct me if i'm wrong though, as I really know of that one example. Mr Pollo (talk) 16:32, 12 September 2025 (UTC)Reply