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[[wikipedia:LG|'''LG Corporation''']] is a South Korean electronics and home-appliance chaebol (or mega corporation). They make microwave ovens, ovens, stoves, refrigerators, cell phones (until 2021), TVs, speakers, drives for Blu-ray Disk, CD, and DVD, computer components and peripherals, and other electronics.

Founded in 1947, the company is currently worth over 9.9 billion USD in market cap.<ref>https://companiesmarketcap.com/lg-electronics/marketcap/</ref>

Founded in 1947, the company is currently worth over 9.9 billion USD in market cap.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Market capitalization of LG Electronics |url=https://companiesmarketcap.com/lg-electronics/marketcap/ |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=companiesmarketcap.com}}</ref>

==Controversies==

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==Violations of smart-home privacy==

Part of the company's appliance division is involved with [[smart appliances]], like microwaves. The company also makes smart OLED TVs.<ref>https://www.lg.com/us/promotions</ref>

Part of the company's appliance division is involved with [[smart appliances]], like microwaves. The company also makes smart OLED TVs.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Promotions |url=https://www.lg.com/us/promotions |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=[[LG]]}}</ref>

===Implementation===

The implementation of "smart" LG devices come with the following features:<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3suztVz8s7s</ref><ref>https://www.pcworld.com/article/2490054/smart-tvs-are-spying-on-you-how-much-do-manufacturers-really-know.html</ref><ref>https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.06203</ref>

The implementation of "smart" LG devices come with the following features:<ref>{{Cite web |last=Rossmann |first=Louis |date=18 Jul 2024 |title=This LG washing machine sells your personal data 🤦 |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3suztVz8s7s |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=[[YouTube]]}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Pippig |first=Laura |last2=Lee |first2=Joel |date=15 Oct 2024 |title=Smart TVs are spying on you. How much do manufacturers really know? |url=https://www.pcworld.com/article/2490054/smart-tvs-are-spying-on-you-how-much-do-manufacturers-really-know.html |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=PCWorld}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Anselmi |first=Gianluca |last2=Vekaria |first2=Yash |last3=D'Souza |first3=Alexander |last4=Callejo |first4=Patricia |last5=Mandalari |first5=Anna Maria |last6=Shafiq |first6=Zubair |date=10 Sep 2024 |title=Watching TV with the Second-Party: A First Look at Automatic Content Recognition Tracking in Smart TVs |url=https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.06203 |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=arxiv.org}}</ref>

*[[Terms of service]] with the only option being to "accept."

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:This seems to be a new requirement and is not present on older TVs. It also does not seem to be related to the "Software Version", but rather the "webOS TV Version".

:For unknown reasons, the LG sign in process can present an "Invalid terms type" error message. This seems to have been an issue since at least 2015.<ref>https://www.avforums.com/threads/cant-sign-in-to-lg-account-on-tv.1973633/</ref> In combination with the sign in requirement, this renders the smart functions of the TV inoperable. The workaround is to sign up at lg.com first (rather than lgemembers.com), then login to the TV.{{citation needed|reason=A page detailing this would be helpful}}

:For unknown reasons, the LG sign in process can present an "Invalid terms type" error message. This seems to have been an issue since at least 2015.<ref>{{Cite web |date=8 Aug 2015 |title=Can't sign in to LG account on TV |url=https://www.avforums.com/threads/cant-sign-in-to-lg-account-on-tv.1973633/ |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=avforums}}</ref> In combination with the sign in requirement, this renders the smart functions of the TV inoperable. The workaround is to sign up at lg.com first (rather than lgemembers.com), then login to the TV.{{citation needed|reason=A page detailing this would be helpful}}

==Broader implications==

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 [[wikipedia:LG|'''LG Corporation''']] is a South Korean electronics and home-appliance chaebol (or mega corporation). They make microwave ovens, ovens, stoves, refrigerators, cell phones (until 2021), TVs, speakers, drives for Blu-ray Disk, CD, and DVD, computer components and peripherals, and other electronics.
-Founded in 1947, the company is currently worth over 9.9 billion USD in market cap.<ref>https://companiesmarketcap.com/lg-electronics/marketcap/</ref>
+Founded in 1947, the company is currently worth over 9.9 billion USD in market cap.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Market capitalization of LG Electronics |url=https://companiesmarketcap.com/lg-electronics/marketcap/ |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=companiesmarketcap.com}}</ref>
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 ==Controversies==
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 ==Violations of smart-home privacy==
-Part of the company's appliance division is involved with [[smart appliances]], like microwaves. The company also makes smart OLED TVs.<ref>https://www.lg.com/us/promotions</ref>
+Part of the company's appliance division is involved with [[smart appliances]], like microwaves. The company also makes smart OLED TVs.<ref>{{Cite web |title=Promotions |url=https://www.lg.com/us/promotions |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=[[LG]]}}</ref>
 ===Implementation===
-The implementation of "smart" LG devices come with the following features:<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3suztVz8s7s</ref><ref>https://www.pcworld.com/article/2490054/smart-tvs-are-spying-on-you-how-much-do-manufacturers-really-know.html</ref><ref>https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.06203</ref>
+The implementation of "smart" LG devices come with the following features:<ref>{{Cite web |last=Rossmann |first=Louis |date=18 Jul 2024 |title=This LG washing machine sells your personal data 🤦 |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3suztVz8s7s |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=[[YouTube]]}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Pippig |first=Laura |last2=Lee |first2=Joel |date=15 Oct 2024 |title=Smart TVs are spying on you. How much do manufacturers really know? |url=https://www.pcworld.com/article/2490054/smart-tvs-are-spying-on-you-how-much-do-manufacturers-really-know.html |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=PCWorld}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Anselmi |first=Gianluca |last2=Vekaria |first2=Yash |last3=D'Souza |first3=Alexander |last4=Callejo |first4=Patricia |last5=Mandalari |first5=Anna Maria |last6=Shafiq |first6=Zubair |date=10 Sep 2024 |title=Watching TV with the Second-Party: A First Look at Automatic Content Recognition Tracking in Smart TVs |url=https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.06203 |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=arxiv.org}}</ref>
 *[[Terms of service]] with the only option being to "accept."
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 :This seems to be a new requirement and is not present on older TVs. It also does not seem to be related to the "Software Version", but rather the "webOS TV Version".
-:For unknown reasons, the LG sign in process can present an "Invalid terms type" error message. This seems to have been an issue since at least 2015.<ref>https://www.avforums.com/threads/cant-sign-in-to-lg-account-on-tv.1973633/</ref> In combination with the sign in requirement, this renders the smart functions of the TV inoperable. The workaround is to sign up at lg.com first (rather than lgemembers.com), then login to the TV.{{citation needed|reason=A page detailing this would be helpful}}
+:For unknown reasons, the LG sign in process can present an "Invalid terms type" error message. This seems to have been an issue since at least 2015.<ref>{{Cite web |date=8 Aug 2015 |title=Can't sign in to LG account on TV |url=https://www.avforums.com/threads/cant-sign-in-to-lg-account-on-tv.1973633/ |url-status=live |access-date=13 Apr 2025 |website=avforums}}</ref> In combination with the sign in requirement, this renders the smart functions of the TV inoperable. The workaround is to sign up at lg.com first (rather than lgemembers.com), then login to the TV.{{citation needed|reason=A page detailing this would be helpful}}
 ==Broader implications==